James Cook is going to be a major problem

[3rdand12]

14 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

He also adds an element they were targeting even back in FA with the guy from Washington. We needed a natural pass catcher, and more speed in the backfield. I want to see Cook take those seams where Singletary gets 10-15 yards…..and turn it into 7 points. Sorry defense, you’re back on the field. First world problems! 

 

 

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Thats the catch eh Aug ?

 Bills are passing Team by nature. Can Cook be that guy early in his rookie season ? Lets ask Ken Dorsey

[Victory Formation]

24 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

returned the first kickoff in the opener versus Colts and had that familiar "don't want to do this" look doing it.

This freaking killed me with laughter.

 

Yes, I guess running the ball back against an onslaught of vicious defenders is not conducive to self-preservation. Can’t blame him. 🥴

[billybrew1]

5 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:

I have this weird feeling about cook... That it almost seems like the bills are hiding him.

 

Between reports of how great he's looked, my own eyes telling me he's dangerous, and the fact he's a rookie but has gotten SO few touches in the preseason, makes me think maybe they are holding their cards close to the vest and he's in for major playing time this year.

 

Interesting that the rookie has less touches than the other RBs. Without looking at the stats, probably similar touches to Singletary but markedly less than moss (and of course blackshear).

 

I would not be entirely surprised if moss was a surprise cut.

I for one, doubt it, but do think it is in the realm of possibilty.

Like…. Why not?

Blackshear has easily outperformed him plus return kicks like he has been doing it all his life. The one thing I don’t know is if he can block. He’s pretty small but so was the Thurmanator. So… we don’t know if he can block or not. The way he does everything else, I would not be very surprised if he could block just fine. The kid is a natural.

I think most people don’t see a path because of two things. Moss was a third round pick and Beane talks up Moss every chance he gets.  Trust your eyes, Blackshear can play in this league and play well. I know it’s just preseason but he looks so damn natural….

[london_bills]

6 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

  In a good way 

He's a really smart runner

[Ya Digg?]

12 minutes ago, billybrew1 said:

I for one, doubt it, but do think it is in the realm of possibilty.

Like…. Why not?

Blackshear has easily outperformed him plus return kicks like he has been doing it all his life. The one thing I don’t know is if he can block. He’s pretty small but so was the Thurmanator. So… we don’t know if he can block or not. The way he does everything else, I would not be very surprised if he could block just fine. The kid is a natural.

I think most people don’t see a path because of two things. Moss was a third round pick and Beane talks up Moss every chance he gets.  Trust your eyes, Blackshear can play in this league and play well. I know it’s just preseason but he looks so damn natural….

Explain the “clearly outplaying him” part. Who is he clearly outplaying, and how so? As has been said repeatedly, Blackshear looks good, but he’s playing mostly against guys who will be cut or on the PS. Cook had looked great and Miss scored twice yesterday…there’s also that little thing of both of these guys keep going up against the 1’s and 2’s 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

I am suggesting they keep 3 and Cook as one of them
But dressing3 for game day is less likely

Gotcha. I’m saying that it’s highly unlikely that they took a running back in the second round only to inactivate him on Sundays.  

 

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Cook has a skill the other two rbs don't have.

 

He could be our Clyde Edward's Hellaire

I hope not. I hope he’s actually good.

[ProcessTruster]

5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Cook has looked pretty good. The only guy who has looked better is future hall of famer Raheem Blackshear.

screw it, cut singletary and moss and go with Cook and Blackshear.  there, I said it.. Josh pitch it 50x per game anyway

[ALLEN1QB]

Should I pick him up in Fantasy?

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

Was thinking that the other.  Motor is easily or best rusher imo.  Moss is improved but I wouldn’t want to trade our best rb…. THIS season, of all seasons.  That would be cocky and we’d probably rue the day. 
 

Motor looks great.  

 

I’d keep them all.   Agreed.  Unless some other team is offering something stupid like a 1st.  

13 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Should I pick him up in Fantasy?

 

I would.   Good bench stash if you have a lot of bench positions.  

[klos63]

7 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:

I have this weird feeling about cook... That it almost seems like the bills are hiding him.

 

Between reports of how great he's looked, my own eyes telling me he's dangerous, and the fact he's a rookie but has gotten SO few touches in the preseason, makes me think maybe they are holding their cards close to the vest and he's in for major playing time this year.

 

Interesting that the rookie has less touches than the other RBs. Without looking at the stats, probably similar touches to Singletary but markedly less than moss (and of course blackshear).

 

I would not be entirely surprised if moss was a surprise cut.

So that would make it not a surprise cut , right?

[JerseyBills]

If the Washington RB McKissik signed , we likely dont draft Cook.

Blessing in disguise!

[CoudyBills]

7 hours ago, SCBills said:

I think you could see that change .. and I’m not saying give him a big contract.  
 

We can’t afford a Kamara contract on this team because we have a QB.

 

Hence why I said potentially. 
 

That being said .. this is a new breed of RB.   James Cook has legitimate WR skills.  He isn’t Zeke, Chubb, Taylor or Henry and we should never ever consider paying one of them.  
 

If James Cook evolves to a point where half his snaps are in the backfield and half are in the slot or out wide, I think you start to view him differently. 

Like Deebo?

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Like Deebo?

Except Deebo is a bulldozer that wrecks defenders. 

[Chicken Boo]

8 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

I really like what I see from Cook.  What is going to be so funny to see is how this board has posters who melt down when he

starts the season not dressing.  Devin and Zack will dress to start the season and if Jones is dressing for STs it's a numbers game.

 

Be patient Bills fans, we won't see a lot of him until later in the year.

 

If this were to happen, it'll tell me all I need to know about this coaching staff.

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Doc said:

Gotcha. I’m saying that it’s highly unlikely that they took a running back in the second round only to inactivate him on Sundays.  

 

I hope not. I hope he’s actually good.

If memory serves me right weren't you pounding the table for CEH pre draft? 

[Scott7975]

8 hours ago, SCBills said:

I think you could see that change .. and I’m not saying give him a big contract.  
 

We can’t afford a Kamara contract on this team because we have a QB.

 

Hence why I said potentially. 
 

That being said .. this is a new breed of RB.   James Cook has legitimate WR skills.  He isn’t Zeke, Chubb, Taylor or Henry and we should never ever consider paying one of them.  
 

If James Cook evolves to a point where half his snaps are in the backfield and half are in the slot or out wide, I think you start to view him differently. 

 

With the QB we have, I would rather have a RB like Cook than a leadback like Zeke.

[boyst]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

1) first run and 3rd run or 4th run, I forget but mostly first

He didn't show patience. A little more patience be could have seen the stunt by the OL tell him he could have bounced it to the side.

 

2) this lack of patience is evident and shows that he doesn't yet posses the skill to read a developing play at the speed necessary yet

 

[Doc]

19 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

If memory serves me right weren't you pounding the table for CEH pre draft? 

 

Your memory doesn't serve you right.  I haven't wanted a RB in the 1st round in decades, much less CEH.  And the Bills traded their 1st rounder in 2020 for Diggs (the day you joined, as luck would have it) anyway. 

[Simon]

15 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

1) first run and 3rd run or 4th run, I forget but mostly first

He didn't show patience. A little more patience be could have seen the stunt by the OL tell him he could have bounced it to the side.

 

2) this lack of patience is evident and shows that he doesn't yet posses the skill to read a developing play at the speed necessary yet

 

 

If that showed me anything, it showed 74 really finishing a bunch blocks for the first time in his career.

hmmmmmm...... 🤔

[Big Blitz]

8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

He could have called this post "evidence Cody Ford is going to be good."  

 

My goodness Ford on that first run...

[NickelCity]

36 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

He could have called this post "evidence Cody Ford is going to be good."  

 

My goodness Ford on that first run...

 

But then there's the second... To be fair he looked good on a couple. He just often looks...tired? Lackadaisical? Hard to say. But he showed a couple nice power run blocks in those clips, as you mention. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

9 hours ago, DJB said:

I’m erect watching him

Sometimes this board is ****ing creepy. 

[sirebors]

11 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

James Cook = 1988 Thurman Thomas

 

11 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Cook has looked pretty good. The only guy who has looked better is future hall of famer Raheem Blackshear.

 

I actually think Blackshear looks alot like Thurman Thomas, more so than Cook does. 

[BillsShredder83]

11 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

I'm too sore and tired to think, someone explain the 35 in a 45 thing to me.

Hes patient, with the ability to accelerate/explode out of a cannon at any point? How I took it

[Chandler#81]

13 hours ago, SCBills said:

Thought he showed exactly what was needed to be shown to strike fear into opposing DC’s yesterday. 

Too much, imo.

10 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

I think there hiding what he's going to be in the passing game

Exactly! Beane’s still pissed at the pantyless ‘Commando’s’ for the Mckissic BS. He wanted a pass catching RB from getgo. We saw little to none of it at the open practices at SJF, Red & Blue & preseason games. But the Evil Wizard has the laboratory sealed off now and this is where real plays are instituted into the playbook, with Cook lined up outside. New, more potent concoctions from our standard empty backfield looks with Cook singled up on a LB. Rams won’t know what hit ‘em.

[boyst]

9 hours ago, Simon said:

 

If that showed me anything, it showed 74 really finishing a bunch blocks for the first time in his career.

hmmmmmm...... 🤔

no joke, I have heard some people I have faith in begin praising Ford.

 

Kromer elevated this dude.

[Don Otreply]

10 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

1) first run and 3rd run or 4th run, I forget but mostly first

He didn't show patience. A little more patience be could have seen the stunt by the OL tell him he could have bounced it to the side.

 

2) this lack of patience is evident and shows that he doesn't yet posses the skill to read a developing play at the speed necessary yet

 

Rookie, maybe trying a bit to hard, I think you may be exercising a bit of hyperbole, I’m quite certain the coaches have had him watch the film a bunch of times already, and that he is at this point fully aware of any short comings, nothing to be especially worried about. His playing time as a rookie is dependent on the game plan for the given opponent and his progression as a RB. He will get snaps, 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Don Otreply

[billsfan1959]

29 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

no joke, I have heard some people I have faith in begin praising Ford.

 

Kromer elevated this dude.

 

Bringing Kromer back was one of the best offseason moves this team made. After Juan Castillo and Bobby Johnson, it will be interesting to watch the line play this year under a coach that actually knows what he is doing...

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

8 hours ago, sirebors said:

 

 

I actually think Blackshear looks alot like Thurman Thomas, more so than Cook does. 

I realize the Blackshear hype train is now at unstoppable speed, but comparing an undrafted guy that has only played against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason to a hall of famer like Thurman!?  

[BADOLBILZ]

46 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

no joke, I have heard some people I have faith in begin praising Ford.

 

Kromer elevated this dude.

 

 

He looks more active but it's the mental side of the game that he has still sucked at.   He whiffed on a block after an assignment error in the opener that lead to James Cook getting tackled for little gain on what was an otherwise well blocked play with big potential..........and then it appeared they ran the same play Saturday and he did it again and got away with an egregious hold grabbing a rusher he allowed to come free on a long Cook run.   Later got a stupid hands to face penalty.   He's been a sh*t show since he got to Buffalo and it will be quite the feat if he overcomes all of it.........his poor attitude and lack of accountability(see Dawkins comments), his lack of athleticism(see his woeful RAS) AND his propensity for mental errors.   The latter will be the hardest to overcome because it's not just one thing.......he is both slow to recognize the action in front of him AND he has a bad temper which costs him as well.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He looks more active but it's the mental side of the game that he has still sucked at.   He whiffed on a block after an assignment error in the opener that lead to James Cook getting tackled for little gain on what was an otherwise well blocked play with big potential..........and then it appeared they ran the same play Saturday and he did it again and got away with an egregious hold grabbing a rusher he allowed to come free on a long Cook run.   Later got a stupid hands to face penalty.   He's been a sh*t show since he got to Buffalo and it will be quite the feat if he overcomes all of it.........his poor attitude and lack of accountability(see Dawkins comments), his lack of athleticism(see his woeful RAS) AND his propensity for mental errors.   The latter will be the hardest to overcome because it's not just one thing.......he is both slow to recognize the action in front of him AND he has a bad temper which costs him as well.

interesting. i need to go find dawkins comments.

 

this really puts in perspective what i have seen. i guess seeing a player who has stunk end up stinking a little less really was enough to impress me. perhaps i need to go back and hold an honest weight to him because up until now i was impressed with his growth... which now in hindsight seems like it was relative to his previous quality of play.

[uninja]

35 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I realize the Blackshear hype train is now at unstoppable speed, but comparing an undrafted guy that has only played against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the preseason to a hall of famer like Thurman!?  

 

Blackshear is this year's Christian Wade.

[MiltonWaddams]

13 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Should I pick him up in Fantasy?

Depends on if you like the “erect through the hole” fantasy style or not…

[ngbills]

I have a lot of hope for Cook. The one concern I have so far is he reminds of CJ Spiller. The way he plays and the way he is wired. Does not seem to get very amped up and hard to tell how much he wants it. 

Edited August 22, 2022 by ngbills

[Bobby Hooks]

18 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I have a lot of hope for Cook. The one concern I have so far is he reminds of CJ Spiller. The way he plays and the way he is wired. Does not seem to get very amped up and hard to tell how much he wants it. 

That’s fair, but the team is far ahead of that team in terms of talent, motivation, and leadership. 
 

I trust that the team and coaches know what they need to and will play him accordingly. If he doesn’t seem like he “wants it” I don’t see them playing him in big spots. Also, Josh doesn’t strike me as the type that would let that fly. If they’re on board, I’m on board. They know where his heads at a lot better than we do. 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Bobby Hooks

[Dopey]

21 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I have a lot of hope for Cook. The one concern I have so far is he reminds of CJ Spiller. The way he plays and the way he is wired. Does not seem to get very amped up and hard to tell how much he wants it. 

Some people here in FSU land said the same thing about Dalvin when got here. Boy, were they proven wrong. They are laid back dudes. I, for one, do not question James' motivation or how much he wants it. This post reminds me of the "Stephon Gilmore doesn't smile enough" gang here at TBD. You know who you are. In a word: ridiculous!

[Kaenon]

On 8/21/2022 at 11:53 AM, 78thealltimegreat said:

  In a good way 

Where will he be drafted in Fantasy is my question. And sadly, in Bills fan forward leagues where Josh Allen is end of round 1 or early round 2 pick lol.

[Sierra Foothills]

4 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Depends on if you like the “erect through the hole” fantasy style or not…

 

When it comes to football I prefer the description, "has an upright running style."

[MiltonWaddams]

35 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

When it comes to football I prefer the description, "has an upright running style."

I was quoting a post from page one. The quote and fantasy seemed to sit well together.

[BaaadThingsMan]

I like this young man alot. 

 

His running style allows him to get to top speed quick and accelerate through tackles while still keeping forward momentum, it looks effortless sometimes. 

Really like the fact that Cook wasn't overworked in college 👍