The Dean Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 "For salary cap purposes" https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/06/16/bills-cut-jake-kumerow-for-salary-cap-purposes-and-then-re-sign-him/ Hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? ST play helps his chances. He's always been at the bottom of the roster, so this is no surprise, but I don't think it's an indication of any big change. He's always been on the verge of being cut and this year is no different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? At most it might indicate how on the bubble he is, but I'd think the actual cutting and resigning would make it easier to keep him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? The opposite? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 They normally play these games with guys they trust and normally the guys only play ball cause they trust the team. But the also normally don’t play these games at this time of the year. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 how come they cut and resign him but not me? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: how come they cut and resign him but not me? Because he pry wants to get to the end zone. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? It means nothing. Just a salary cap technicality thing. We've done it before with someone who ended up on the 53 though it escapes me as to whom. Edited June 17, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Anyone privy to the "salary cap purpose?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It means nothing. Just a salary cap technicality thing. We've done it before with someone who ended up on the 53 though it escapes me as to whom. Right. Reid Ferguson and Andre Roberts are the two that come to mind. I don't remember them ever doing it in June though. Strange. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Right. Reid Ferguson and Andre Roberts are the two that come to mind. I don't remember them ever doing it in June though. Strange. Yes, thank you. I don't think it really matters when they do it. It's a procedural thing that is meaningless when it comes to their chances of making the team or not, as the post I was replying to was trying to allude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Clears cap space? Can’t imagine much. Maybe they have their eyes in someone and needed the space? When does the USFL season end and they can grab those players? Edited June 17, 2022 by davefan66 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? Totally disagree - if they cut and resigned him and he had dead cap money on his previous contract - the most likely reason is they know he is making the roster and wanted to adjust something. It just makes no sense as did not need the roster spot and his contract was tiny for an NFL player - not sure what the Bills would save. He might have become one of the new camp cuts to get an injured player on the 53 to go to IR and then resign, but why set that up now? We will see - it was done with a plan and we have 2 roster spots left - maybe they have gotten wind of some July 1st cuts that they want to go after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I’m sure Beane has a plan for this revenue. Most of the time on this board, people make wild speculations that are usually not true. It’s not like with the resign, we all of a sudden freed up so much cap space we can extend Knox as an example. We’ll find out sometime this summer why he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Reports are that Aaron Rodgers is peeved the Packers didn't sign him when he became available yesterday. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 They did it to save $70k 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone privy to the "salary cap purpose?" They said it was more or less a 'procedural move'. Some cap gymnastics, no matter how small, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Can someone explain why they would do this? Just curious as to how this is helpful from a cap mechanics standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: They did it to save $70k I don't know what's weirder: that they cut and resigned a guy for a paltry cap savings of $70k, or that following the NFL has caused me to view $70k as a small amount of money... 4 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: how come they cut and resign him but not me? Cry me a river, pal. They cut me, didn't re-sign me, then cast me adrift in a leaky dinghy. 🙁 * 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: They normally play these games with guys they trust and normally the guys only play ball cause they trust the team. But the also normally don’t play these games at this time of the year. Agreed, the timing is a little odd. The team now has a decent assessment of what talent they have in the WR room more so than any other position due to the nature of OTA’s. Not sure really what this transaction signifies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, CSBill said: Reports are that Aaron Rodgers is peeved the Packers didn't sign him when he became available yesterday. Did he go on waivers and all 31 other teams passed on him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, davefan66 said: Clears cap space? Can’t imagine much. Maybe they have their eyes in someone and needed the space? When does the USFL season end and they can grab those players? Kavontae Turpin is worth a look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 52 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Can someone explain why they would do this? Just curious as to how this is helpful from a cap mechanics standpoint. Likely the terms of his deal. They might have slightly reduced his yearly cap hit for a longer number of years, is my guess. Puts it in-line with a full time special teams player. They don't have to worry about that spot for a few more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Something about post June 1 I am guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, this doesn't HELP his chances to make the final 53, right? If he’s cut, what portion of his salary does he get? Are the Bills that cheap to create cap where it won’t do any good? 1 + 1 = 3. Something in that logic of refuse $ to cut doesn’t add up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They did it to save $70k Making room for Zach Ertz. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hopefully he stays. He's a solid WR3 on any team and possibly a WR2. The dude has skills. 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Making room for Zach Ertz. That's so 2021. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Did he go on waivers and all 31 other teams passed on him ? No. He is a 4 year vet so he does not go thru waivers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, The Dean said: "For salary cap purposes" https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/06/16/bills-cut-jake-kumerow-for-salary-cap-purposes-and-then-re-sign-him/ Hmmmmm Does that mean he had to clear waivers? (never mind. thanks @ColoradoBills) Edited June 17, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Anyone privy to the "salary cap purpose?" He is now getting veteran minimum where entire amount does not count against cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 there is a June 1st date for cap cuts that affects cuts and dead money. Maybe they were waiting for June 1st to pass, and this was the earliest the 'gentelman's agreement' was made and processed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They did it to save $70k Jeezz.. I would have loaned them that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 12 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: They normally play these games with guys they trust and normally the guys only play ball cause they trust the team. But the also normally don’t play these games at this time of the year. Exactly. Do it now while Aaron Rodgers is busy playing golf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 In Beane we trust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 If a few hours of paperwork saves the team $70K (either on the cap, or actual cash), why not do it? Every little bit helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Kavontae Turpin is worth a look. Turpin is 155 lbs, very small in terms of NFL size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytownblofan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Although it seems weird, one thing we have learned again and again is Beane and co do everything for a very specific and calculated purpose, so shout out to Kumerow for being open to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 We definitely need another DB to start the season, imo. I wonder if there's anyone that Beane is eyeing and this is just about freeing up every last bit of cash to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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