Tua impressing in Miami

[Doc]

43 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

If they truly felt HIll was that crucial to their success (specifically Mahomes) they would not have let him go.

 

Regardless as I alluded to in another thread, at some point every contender has to make tough decisions and since KC has already won a SB it lessons the blow to a certain degree. Still think Mahomes is going to be at the top of the MVP picture this year though and prove he's in a class of his own even after losing a star player like Hill.

 

Hill is one of the top WRs in the game and broke out with Alex Smith throwing to him.  You don't replace a guy like that easily, much less with guys like JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.  You can be assured that the Chefs are very worried about facing the Bills (again) this year, especially with the way the last meeting went.

[C.Biscuit97]

Honestly, Tua will be fine. He’s no worse than Jimmy G and the Fins will have that gimmick offense with a ton of screens. So numbers wise, I can see Tua putting up some good numbers. However, I don’t think he will ever be the qb who can make the special players or put his team on his back. He will be eventually replaced.

 

but the Fins have done an incredible job rebuilding that roster. They have a lot of talent but how can anyone be worried about a dolphin?

[Toyo321]

How the most accurate passer in the league performed caught on video !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Toyo321

[Juice_32]

7 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

Wow, he looks like a guy out of the seats. Yikes.

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

Buccaneers are looking a little blue.

[GETTOTHE50]

If I was a defender, the QB I would look forward playing the most would be Tua. He is so terrible haha

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

 

 

This is getting into "Worse than EJ" territory.

[Freak-O]

On 8/4/2022 at 5:36 PM, FilthyBeast said:

 

That's not what I'm saying at all.

 

My point is why would KC/Mahomes/Reid fear a Bills team that have beaten in every meaningful game that matters? Obviously this could change if the Bills can ever beat them in the playoffs but until then they are still the better team no matter what the experts and fans think and KC knows this.

 

I honestly don't know how the Bills stack up against the Bengals because they did not face them last year in the regular season or playoffs, but they made the SB and came within minutes of winning and the Bills exited in the 2nd round. Their head coach also has 2 road playoff wins in his postseason debut where McDermott has zero in 6 years with Buffalo.

 

If they truly felt HIll was that crucial to their success (specifically Mahomes) they would not have let him go.

 

Regardless as I alluded to in another thread, at some point every contender has to make tough decisions and since KC has already won a SB it lessons the blow to a certain degree. Still think Mahomes is going to be at the top of the MVP picture this year though and prove he's in a class of his own even after losing a star player like Hill.

What’s is a meaningful game that doesn’t matter? The Bills were extremely close to knock the Chiefs out of the playoffs last season and Hill was what saved them. 

[CorkScrewHill]

16 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

This was last year regular season. He didn’t play yesterday. I am not convinced Tua will be good and I am not convinced he will be bad. We will know after this year I suspect

[babulator]

16 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

OMG those are clips from just one game. Wow...

[Brandon]

20 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed yesterday !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

 

He's not as bad as he looks there,  but damn,  that's an ugly compilation of plays from one game. 

[thenorthremembers]

34 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed caught on video !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

Said it since before he was drafted, small, weak arm, injury prone qbs with no elite skills should not be drafted in the 1st round.   

 

That said, dude needs to be in a west coast timing based offense that utilizes his smarts and quick release.  The throws he was trying to make in that video didn't show that in the least.   Long term backup.

[gobills404]

 

[PonyBoy]

QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!

QUACK!!!!!

 

[Don Otreply]

44 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed caught on video !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

On top of having jello for for an arm, the guy appears to be color blind,  he has to use his entire body to throw the ball, and it just has zero velocity or accuracy from what these “highlights” show. Just saying  Tua makes me lol 😂 

[Airseven]

He seems to read coverage pretty well, but he doesn't trust his arm. He sees the spot, will hesitate, and then throw late or off-balance. At worst, he's a noodle arm. At best, he's a good athlete and a captain check-down.

[Freddie's Dead]

1 hour ago, Freak-O said:

What’s is a meaningful game that doesn’t matter? The Bills were extremely close to knock the Chiefs out of the playoffs last season and Hill McChoke was what saved them. 

 

FTFY.

[Special K]

41 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

On top of having jello for for an arm, the guy appears to be color blind,  he has to use his entire body to throw the ball, and it just has zero velocity or accuracy from what these “highlights” show. Just saying  Tua makes me lol 😂 

 

You left out the fact that he is also made of glass.

 

I call him:

 

"The Human Ace Bandage"!!

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Special K

[njbuff]

Teddy Bridgewater will start against the Bills in week 3 if he himself doesn't break like a fragile piece of glass.

[aceman_16]

1 hour ago, Toyo321 said:

How the most accurate passer in the league performed caught on video !!!!  Tyreek should be ducking reporters all day today!!!

 

Josh is going to eat this team up again this year!!!  Josh rules Miami !!!

 

 

 

When was THIS game?

 

EDIT: Nevermind I found out when

Edited August 15, 2022 by aceman_16

[The Wiz]

6 ints at practice today between the 3 qbs.  Tua had 3.

[hemma]

Six interceptions — three by Tua Tagovailoa — at Dolphins’ camp. News from practice No. 13

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article263843032.html#storylink=cpy

[Scott7975]

Just now, The Wiz said:

6 ints at practice today between the 3 qbs.  Tua had 3.

 

So he is improving then.  A lot of his wounded ducks just end up in the dirt haha.

[TBBills]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

6 ints at practice today between the 3 qbs.  Tua had 3.

I will admit, I am impressed by this.

Edited August 16, 2022 by TBBills

[FilthyBeast]

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

 

We are fans of a message board.  We have zero affect or outcome of how they play on the field.  

[Captain Hindsight]

7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

What are you talking about? Tua threw 3 picks today and is still wobbling passes and Mac Jones had a day last week where the offense couldn’t move the ball. Zach Wilson had surgery today after throwing a pick directly to a LB that didn’t move from the pre snap. 

 

AFCE QBs are trending down besides Allen 

[FilthyBeast]

Just now, Captain Hindsight said:

What are you talking about? Tua threw 3 picks today and is still wobbling passes and Mac Jones had a day last week where the offense couldn’t move the ball. Zach Wilson had surgery today after throwing a pick directly to a LB that didn’t move from the pre snap. 

 

AFCE QBs are trending down besides Allen 

 

I don't put much stock in one or two bad practices vs. the totality of the entire offseason in which there's been a lot of hype over how both Tua/Jones have looked and both of them also sat in their first preseason games as well which tells me the respective coaching staffs didn't feel they needed the reps and/or wanted to risk injury to them.

 

Also if a few bad practices mattered, the same rule would apply to JA17 and other established top QB's in this league.

[PrimeTime101]

im impressed...

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:

im impressed...

lmfao he really had to turn into that one too and it still came out wobbly

[Warcodered]

13 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

What are you talking about? Tua threw 3 picks today and is still wobbling passes and Mac Jones had a day last week where the offense couldn’t move the ball. Zach Wilson had surgery today after throwing a pick directly to a LB that didn’t move from the pre snap. 

 

AFCE QBs are trending down besides Allen 

Yeah but if we get too insufferable about being better than other teams in the AFC East then it'll come back and bite us some day...in around 20 years.

[TBBills]

38 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

You really said something like that and are serious?

[Cray51]

The most interesting thing about camp vs. in game - the Bills defense is difficult to gameplan against.  We have ALWAYS had success against passers who 1) are not elite athletically and 2) Cannot process defenses extremely quickly.

 

We FEAST on sub-par QB play.  The only games we lost last year due to strong  QB play were to Brady and Mahomes.

 

I feel for Tua, Wilson, and Jones.  They simply dont have the talent to effectively manage against this defense.  If our offense is AVERAGE in game, we go 6-0 in division.  Maybe 5-1 if we have a stinker

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

40 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I don't put much stock in one or two bad practices vs. the totality of the entire offseason in which there's been a lot of hype over how both Tua/Jones have looked and both of them also sat in their first preseason games as well which tells me the respective coaching staffs didn't feel they needed the reps and/or wanted to risk injury to them.

 

Also if a few bad practices mattered, the same rule would apply to JA17 and other established top QB's in this league.

 

Talk is cheap

 

[GaryPinC]

56 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

im impressed...

Honestly his footwork and body positioning are terrible, you wonder if working with Jordan Palmer could improve his game significantly.  Meh, probably not.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

It's bad mojo to keep downplaying and underestimating the competition.

 

Both Tua and Mac Jones have looked to improve significantly during offseason/camp so far. Question of course is what happens when it matters most when the regular season starts.

   I’ll assume you do realize of course that we fans can down play whom ever we feel so inclined, and as frequently as we like, 

 

   As well, this “down playing” has no bearing whatsoever on our favorite teams preparation for any opponent,  correct?  

 

 

    No one is afraid of tiny QBs with weak arms or for that matter, the MILF monster down in jersey,  😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

Edited August 16, 2022 by Don Otreply

[Rochesterfan]

21 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

Honestly his footwork and body positioning are terrible, you wonder if working with Jordan Palmer could improve his game significantly.  Meh, probably not.

 

Maybe - we will see - maybe Miami sends him to the XFL to learn to be a QB.

 

 

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I don't put much stock in one or two bad practices vs. the totality of the entire offseason in which there's been a lot of hype over how both Tua/Jones have looked and both of them also sat in their first preseason games as well which tells me the respective coaching staffs didn't feel they needed the reps and/or wanted to risk injury to them.

 

Also if a few bad practices mattered, the same rule would apply to JA17 and other established top QB's in this league.

Established top QB's.  That's the point right there.  Allen has a bad practice no one bats an eye.  Why, because he's an established top QB. 

 

Miami has been actively trying to replace Tua by breaking NFL rules and not paying a guy with 24 sexual assault charges what he wanted.  All Mac had to do last year was play "small ball".  Get ahead, lean on the run game and defense and don't make mistakes.  He posted 1 game winning drive against the world beating Houston Texans.  

 

Of the two, I would expect Mac to improve at some point so I wouldn't discredit the camp reports on him but it's the same concept.  He's not an established top QB so every praise and doubt can be scrutinized the same.

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

12 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

   I’ll assume you do realize of course that we fans can down play whom ever we feel so inclined, and as frequently as we like, 

 

   As well, this “down playing” has no bearing whatsoever on our favorite teams preparation for any opponent,  correct?  

 

 

    No one is afraid of tiny QBs with weak arms or for that matter, the MILF monster down in jersey,  😁👍

 

Go Bills!!!

 

The dolphins and pats don't need their QB's to be superstars to be contenders and/or threaten the Bills for the AFCE crown.

 

It's just weird seeing a fan base who went through 17 years of disappointment and failure look down on other teams that have a lot more success overall and bills mafia is setting themselves up for a major humbling if things don't go as planned...which is pretty much SB victory or bust at this point.

[Malazan]

I expect Tua to be better this year, but I've been following their camp and I just don't see him ascending to the top. While his ability to throw deep has been overly-maligned, he still has problems with his, and I'll borrow this from Water Boy, medulla oblongata. He makes really poor decisions.. especially when he's pressured. So they'll be better.. he may likely finally put up stats that take him out of the bottom of the league, but not a guy I want to count on when you need him to elevate the team.  

 

I suspect he ends up as one of those QB purgatory QBs like Kirk Cousins.. too good to get rid of, but never seems to be able to get to the top.