Mikie's Bills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Can anyone name the player that was a teammate of Bruce Smith’s, and later went on to be a teammate of Von Miller’s? Champ? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nelius Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Logic said: Can anyone name the player that was a teammate of Bruce Smith’s, and later went on to be a teammate of Von Miller’s? Currently imprisoned Justin Bannan? I think Bruce left right before his rookie year but that's the best I can find Edited March 17, 2022 by Nelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, stevestojan said: The Bills are now the favorite to win the Super Bowl on Draft Kings. Bills +650 KC +800 GB +850 TB +850 LA +1200 … I'm thinking put $100 on win division at -210, and bet $50(the easy winnings on the div) on the AFC championship at +365. The odds likely don't get any better than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said: Champ? Nailed it. Pretty cool to think there’s a guy that played with Bruce and also with the newest Bill, Von Miller. All three guys Hall of Famers, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Logic said: Yeah, but now we have to trade Josh to pay for Von.. 😲😉 18 hours ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said: Are you idiots complaining about the length serious! We went all into get rings the next few years. If we had him last year we win it all he is a beast. Stop bitching This place needs an assz-kickin’ mod to cull the herd. 😉 17 hours ago, Momma Pecoraro said: Did Von get the ring back? I’m guessing you mean Mario, but I hope Von brings US a ring! 17 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Yes!!!!! Let's gooo!!!!! This is what I'm talking about!!!!! Forget the head line 6 year 120, NFL is funny money the cap is crap... it's really 3 yr 53 million in effect... Excellent!!!! The boost we need on defense!!!! Leadership and pass rush and professionalism and intensity and Chamionship caliber in all ways!!!!!! Yes he is! To have Allen on Offense and Miller on Defense is a football fans’ utopia! 17 hours ago, jkeerie said: Totally agree. I didn't want the Bills to break the bank for just any player. Von Miller is the type of player you break the bank for. He plays big in big games...especially the playoffs. Something Chandler didn't do and something our defense last season didn't do. I said we needed a "Josh" on defense...especially after Tre went down. Von Miller is that kind of player! You are quickly becoming one of my new favorite posters. Sucks to be you 😉 Edited March 17, 2022 by Chandler#81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: I have some mixed feelings about this, to be honest. I was absolutely stoked on the one hand about getting a future HOFer on our DL to put some pressure on QBs. On the other hand (and I realize this sounds insane), I would've just rather resigned Hughes for another 2 or 3 years at a price $5 million less per year so we could go out and get a couple other potential pieces like a #2 CB and an RB I haven't watched enough of him lately, but is Miller still a force on his own? I thought Hughes was a really good player for us and a team leader. His stats might not have always reflected it but he was really good for us last year. I am relieved this isn't actually what I thought it was. It's really a 3 year, $52.5 million contract. But my honest initial reaction when I saw 6 year, $120 million for a 33 year old (in just over a week) was NOT excitement. Great post. I agree. The Bills brass put so much effort in getting pass rushers via free agency and drafts. It seems clear to me that they have not done well in that department. The statistics for those statistics people illustrate that clearly. It was an obvious priority of Beane and company. Yet, they go out and spend BIG money for Miller. What's that say about their previous moves? Doesn't exactly instill confidence. I like the moves they made to sure up the run defense. They still have a HUGE hole at CB. I suspect they will try to pick up a value guy in free agency or in the early rounds of the draft. I disagree with the Hughes take. In theory I agree but Jerry has pretty much sucked for awhile. Imho, he was invisible and barely serviceable in many of our games last season. It's time to let him walk. I too have mixed feelings about the Miller move. It's great to know Miller is a winner and plays big in big games. That might be just what the Bill's need to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. On the other hand, I'm think they spent too much for Miller and fear he won't be nearly as effective on the Bills team. Instead of Donald getting doubled or tripled it will be Von. Will the 34 year be up to the task? Once again, Oliver and company have to set it up and produce. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: What about that punter guy? No!! He has never held in college. We don’t need to jeopardize our season on a big leg guy that we will barely use who might lose us a playoff game because he screws up a hold on a key extra point or FG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: I haven't watched enough of him lately, but is Miller still a force on his own? I thought Hughes was a really good player for us and a team leader. His stats might not have always reflected it but he was really good for us last year. Here's PFFs assessment of Miller last season. Von Miller ED #00 Buffalo Bills SHOW BIO 2021 Season Grades DEFENSE GRADE 91.2 3rd / 107 ED RUN DEFENSE GRADE 88.2 2nd / 118 ED PASS RUSH GRADE 88.1 8th / 104 ED COVERAGE GRADE 90.9 1st / 24 ED Still right at the top in all facets according to whoever they are. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The funny thing is I was walking my dog about 45 minutes before the announcement and Bulldog on WGR was running through the days FA highlights and absolutely had said Von resigned with the Rams. I just randomly pulled up my phone to check signing updates and saw he came to the Bills and did a triple take because I thought he was already gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, daz28 said: I'm thinking put $100 on win division at -210, and bet $50(the easy winnings on the div) on the AFC championship at +365. The odds likely don't get any better than they are now. Jesus....including this years playoffs Von at 32 years old had 13.5 sacks and 32 TFL's....the time is now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Here's PFFs assessment of Miller last season. Von Miller ED #00 Buffalo Bills SHOW BIO 2021 Season Grades DEFENSE GRADE 91.2 3rd / 107 ED RUN DEFENSE GRADE 88.2 2nd / 118 ED PASS RUSH GRADE 88.1 8th / 104 ED COVERAGE GRADE 90.9 1st / 24 ED Still right at the top in all facets according to whoever they are. And for all the people touting Jerry’s pass rush stats, PFF had him ranked 118 out of 185 edge against the run (58 grade) so he’s basically a 3rd down specialist at this point in his career. He shouldn’t be a primary 3 down player anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 You know the critical thinker in me then started wondering how much of this giant deal is to placate fans AND offset the big announcements that taxpayers are going to have to eat $750 million for a new stadium? Funny our big spender year is one week before we announce a giant stadium spending deal….. makes you go hmmmmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 @thedean @DabillsDaBillsDaBills Thank you both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Logic said: Agreed. The fact that he had an astounding 82 pressures last year points to him still having plenty of juice. Rams reporters pointed out that his presence on the team really helped free up Aaron Donald to make more plays. The offense can’t double everybody! I’m hoping Miller’s presence here has the same effect on Ed Oliver. An underrated bonus of signing Miller is that he’s known to be a very generous teacher of younger players. He hosts his own pass rush summit every offseason. If the Bills get 1-3 good years out of Miller AND his tutelage helps our trio of youngsters take major steps forward, the big contract will be WELL worth it! Having two D line players that require a double team should definitely create higher win percentages in the passing game. Combine Miller with Oliver and viable 1 techs and this D now has three guys on an any given down that can take on and/ beat double teams…. Edmunds is in a put up or shut up year as he shouldn’t be getting raked by combination blocks perpetually this upcoming season (barring injuries) The teacher aspect is seriously underrated. Addison certainly assisted there, but Miller just has more juice. If Rousseau or any other DEs take a leap next year the pass rush could get serious results. Having an experienced guy that can relate QB tells to younger players on the field will be a bonus as well. Not to mention…. How he studies film. 2 hours ago, The Dean said: A longer contract lets the team spread the bonus hit over 5 years, and reduce THIS season's salary cap, when it matters more. Then they get to restructure down the line and make more of the salary a bonus, since he has a sixth year. It gives him and his agent a big number to publicize, as well. Since I don't know his deal with the agent, I won't speculate on if this makes the agent more $$ up front. Basically, it probably be MORE expensive to make it a shorter deal, even if you could get the player to agree to it. IIRC agent income is capped by the nfl at 3% of total money payed out to the player as it happens. Signing bonus is immediate, workout and roster bonuses occur in the year assigned, etc. When the player receives real cash the agent benefits. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Ed Oliver is going to go crazy next year. This signing helps the entire d line in more ways than I think people are aware of 35 minutes ago, Locomark said: You know the critical thinker in me then started wondering how much of this giant deal is to placate fans AND offset the big announcements that taxpayers are going to have to eat $750 million for a new stadium? Funny our big spender year is one week before we announce a giant stadium spending deal….. makes you go hmmmmm. Very original 👏 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Miami fans crying because everyone “talking about the AFC West + Buffalo! What about us?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, JBI$111 said: This contract seems more like a rookie GM handling it & reaching for a name or a splash for marketing purposes because he missed on a few others this year that we may or may not know about aka like Russ Brandon in the past (which never worked out), that's way too much and ridiculous regardless of how it's back-loaded. I like Brandon Beane a lot, but this just seems like an over zealous reach & inexperience GM move. Stupid and he really got fleeced & overpaid! They need better offensive lineman, a cornerback or two, a really good linebacker and another stud wide receiver like DK Metcalf. Also, a better running back then just Singletary. Half the damn team is made up of defensive lineman and way too much money is tied up on the defensive & line across the board. Von is good, but not that great anymore and 32! $120 million for 6 years even if it only ends up being 4 years at $17 million per, ridiculous! $10 million a year... maybe I'd be on board, but welcome Von! Go away. 6 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Priceless. 6 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: More of this please! I ❤️ this pic! 6 hours ago, CSBill said: Stunning facts. 6 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Gotta love when an ill-informed newbie comes barging in like a bull in a china shop, huh? Maybe check the details of the contract and try reading the room before 'enlightening' all of us, newb. Off with their heads!🥷 6 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: What about that punter guy? We don’t need one, but I’m sure we’ll Draft one. Just in case, you busy this Fall? 6 hours ago, Beast said: Do Rob Riddick proud! and Terry Miller, JD Hill and Eddy Rutkowski 😉👍 5 hours ago, JBI$111 said: Ok buddy, whatever you say! I've been on this board since it's inception (just don't post a lot) and I am one of the biggest Bills fans that you'd ever meet. It looks like Schefter corrected the initial numbers and we'll have to see the full details of the contract like always, but it just seems on the surface a large amount of money to spend on a 32-year-old OLB. I never said he was going to play the whole 6 years obviously that won't be the case (probably 3), but if it still ends up at 17 million dollars a year roughly, it appears a little rich. We certainly need better pass rushers No doubt since so many that we've drafted haven't turned into stars. I have a feeling though that some of the recent ones that we've drafted will end up being quite good and get better over the next couple years. We'll see... Certainly glad they got him to come to the Bills. I call BS on all of this. You started in 2018 and I know many thousands of Bills fans WAAAAY bigger than you, given your gutter takes. Welcome to Ignore. 5 hours ago, newcam2012 said: He's lucky if he has 2 good years in him. I don't like the signing. Typically witless and worthless take. I’ll give you this, you’re consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I know we all have mixed feelings about PFF, but watching this made me feel good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: I too have mixed feelings about the Miller move. It's great to know Miller is a winner and plays big in big games. That might be just what the Bill's need to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. On the other hand, I'm think they spent too much for Miller and fear he won't be nearly as effective on the Bills team. Instead of Donald getting doubled or tripled it will be Von. Will the 34 year be up to the task? Once again, Oliver and company have to set it up and produce. Denver, where Von Miller played 7 games and had 4.5 of his sacks, did not employ Aaron Donald. Von Miller played 8 for the Rams and got 5. So.. I'm looking forward to an expert like you breaking down Donald's ability to get Von Miller sacks on an entirely different team. This should be good. Edited March 17, 2022 by Malazan 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Will Von Miller become only the second player in NFL history to win a Super Bowl with three different teams? That's what Bills fans are counting on. Personally, those odds make me nervous (which will surprise no one). Eh. Means nothing as correlation does not imply causation. We went 54 years without a team winning the Super Bowl in their host city before the Bucs and Rams did. Last year was the first time in 25 years all four NFL teams made the playoffs who were in the conference championship game the year before. No starting QB had ever won two rings with two different teams before Brady did. You get the point. This defense personnel wise is already better than last year before the draft assuming Tre White is back week one. It's always tricky with a new offensive coordinator but the offense should put up similar production to the last two years. We pry have the easiest road to the one seed out of any AFC team giving us the best chance of winning the conference with that bye and home field. Now it's a matter of hoping to stay healthy and taking care of business. The odds will always be against us as there's 32 teams in the league but I like our chances more than any NFL team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: You know why they chose 17 right? You have to be Josh-ing me with that question. It’s the number of years he hopes to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: I wonder if there’s any significance to the number 40. He wore 58 all those years in Denver, 40 with the Rams, and is now asking for 40 again in Buffalo. Where are my sleuths? Good question. Was his college # as an Aggie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Shaw66 said: And one more thing: Imagine being a Buffalo Bills player as these days approached, wondering if your team was going to do anything. Imagine how those guys are feeling tonight. The Bills ask a lot of their players, and they tell them that they will get them the help they need. Well, tonight those guys are 100% sold on their team. Even AJ and Rousseau and Basham, they're like, "hell, yeah!" Hughes and Addison? Well, I'm sure they're worried personally, but they're in awe of what there team can accomplish. Oliver? How do you think Oliver feels tonight? Allen? He wants to lace 'em up tomorrow morning. Diggs? Are you kidding? Diggs is sold. If the Bills are telling him he needs to restructure to make some room, he's saying "where do I sign?" Moves like this let the players know the team is serious about taking the next step. And the cool part, sounds like Von is just as giddy to strap it up with the Bills! What an awesome feeling this is after years of watching other teams makes these moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Bruffalo said: This reads like you had a few too many beers. You keep talking about how Miller has slowed down/regressed except the numbers don't reflect that, in fact none of the metrics that you associate with DEs say anything like it. What they do say is that he's still a highly effective DE with excellent body control, a great pressure win rate, bend, and someone who needs to be accounted for on the field by offenses. He was much, much more efficient last season (a very down season, according to you) than anyone the Bills had. If you're going to make the claim, back it up with facts. Playing with Donald is not a negative, and it's ridiculous to somehow hold it against him (playing with Darnold is something entirely different). These are poor, low information takes that don't make much sense. You're railing against a contract you're willfully not understanding; you're calling a player bad when the reality he's better than anyone the Bills currently have rostered. It's just silly. He’s certifiably deranged. He’s typically only allowed out of the home for a few hours on Sunday, but he escaped yesterday.. 6 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Why only 9 sacks? Is that elite? Do the word a favor. Go for a swim in a lightning storm. 5 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Wtf. What does she have to do with anything. Terrible classless cheap shot. Many here disagree with me and I'm fine with that. But geeze your post is very tasteless. YOU are terribly classless. We ALL disagree with you because you’re clueless and have been from your very 1st post. 🤦♂️ 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Didn't read the whole thread so no idea if this was discussed, but I will take a wild guess on contract structure: $24M signing bonus spread over 6 years. There will be some other yearly bonuses instead of base salary I am just make it simple for the guess purposes. Y1 - 4M base salary (8M cap hit) Y2 - 11M base salary (15M cap hit) Y3 - 14M base salary (18M cap hit) Y4 - 17M base salary (21M cap hit, 12M dead cap) Y5 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 8M dead cap) Y6 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 4M dead cap) That's 120M total, 53M in first 3 years, 70M in first 4. I can imagine signing bonus being a little less, but I doubt its less than 20M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think there is going to be second fall-out from this Von Miller signing. This could be the last year of Edmunds, if he doesnt progress he doesnt get extended. Cannot make that extension unless he blows up. As much as I like Edmunds (i think he is a good LBer that is still growing), they might move on from him this year. Example move him for a 2nd or mulitple picks and address the MIKE with a low end Mike. Now the ONLY thing that gives me pause on going full speed ahead on the trade is how vital the MIKE is for this defense. BUT with Allen, Diggs, now Miller and then of course still being SB favs, maybe Bobby Wagner comes cheap and then Edmunds dealt. And I say this knowing Von is not a MIKE, but cannot pay everyone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZcnCMjkWlY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Locomark said: Finally all in on a DE. Now we can draft CB and WR early and not even look at other positions until later. First three picks prediction: 1) WR 2) CB 3) OL 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I think there is going to be second fall-out from this Von Miller signing. This could be the last year of Edmunds, if he doesnt progress he doesnt get extended. Cannot make that extension unless he blows up. As much as I like Edmunds (i think he is a good LBer that is still growing), they might move on from him this year. Example move him for a 2nd or mulitple picks and address the MIKE with a low end Mike. Now the ONLY thing that gives me pause on going full speed ahead on the trade is how vital the MIKE is for this defense. BUT with Allen, Diggs, now Miller and then of course still being SB favs, maybe Bobby Wagner comes cheap and then Edmunds dealt. And I say this knowing Von is not a MIKE, but cannot pay everyone. The name you will keep hearing from me until the draft is done? Chad Muma from Wyoming. I know it may not be popular with some, but a 2nd Round pick on this guy would be exactly what we need. He's smart, takes proper angles, a sure tackler (led the NCAA in solo tackles), and has the athleticism to cover in this defense. Also, I want us to sign Shaq on the cheap to be the final depth piece to the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, H2o said: The name you will keep hearing from me until the draft is done? Chad Muma from Wyoming. I know it may not be popular with some, but a 2nd Round pick on this guy would be exactly what we need. He's smart, takes proper angles, a sure tackler (led the NCAA in solo tackles), and has the athleticism to cover in this defense. Also, I want us to sign Shaq on the cheap to be the final depth piece to the DL. Thanks for the name. Going to dig into him. As I prep for the draft starting this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Not nice. I thought insults weren't allowed. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Stefon Diggs restructure? watching money go to Godwin, etc. will they be able to do this? Edited March 17, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I wonder how well Mac Jones slept last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 What I am very interested in is this. Bills have been a top Defense against the Pass since McD has been here, without a TOP Premier Pass Rusher. Now I cannot wait to see what this defense looks like with that TOP END passrusher. McD has not had that since he has been here in terms of his defenses here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: I wonder how well Mac Jones slept last night. Tua. Line Miller up at LDE, I want Tua to SEE HIM COMING. Cannot wait for this. Edited March 17, 2022 by Coach Tuesday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Another thing to think about Miller on AVG has been logging about 80-85% of the snaps on defense. Lets say in a Rotation that drops a bit down to 65%-75% of the defensive stats. How much longer does that extend his career, I fully understand he could still log his normal percentage but could cut reps for lengthening his career. I cannot wait to see how this plays out this year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 56 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Not nice. I thought insults weren't allowed. Just you breathing air is an insult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Hoping this works out. Definitely a risk I wouldn't have taken, but sometimes you have to play with fire. Hoping having 2020 off extended his career by 3 more years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Stefon Diggs restructure? watching money go to Godwin, etc. will they be able to do this? they'll be able to do whatever they want 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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