PromoTheRobot Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Sorry it's a paywall. https://theathletic.com/3153981/2022/02/28/bills-stadium-faq-financing-agreement-for-new-orchard-park-project-likely-to-be-announced-soon/ Basically saying the reason for silence lately is both sides are close to getting it done. Could be announced right before state budget vote. Definitely will be open air, natural grass, in OP. (Congrats @Hammered a Lot) 8 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Also says the Bills have already started so they remain on schedule. Plan is 4 years. Josh Allen will be 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Also says the Bills have already started so they remain on schedule. Plan is 4 years. Josh Allen will be 30. Perhaps we can get some volunteers to construct a temporary dome in the meantime. 2 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Fingers are crossed. You can't rule out state politics from mucking this up. The sooner the better. Looking forward to having a stadium that has extra wide concourses, lavatories that don't include 50 foot cow trough urinals that led to 300' lines at halftime, decent high tech scoreboards that are visible from more than 200', party decks in the end zones, decent restaurant options, and an overhang that protects 75% of the fans. Outdoor football baby. the way God meant it to be!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 It will finally be nice to get past all of the talking and finally get shovels in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Perhaps we can get some volunteers to construct a temporary dome in the meantime. Dam that had to leave a mark 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Personally I think 4 years is worst case scenario. I think this will get done in 2.5 years if not faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. 1 1 5 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Personally I think 4 years is worst case scenario. I think this will get done in 2.5 years if not faster. It took 3 years for them to build MetLife so they can definitely do it in under 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Pretty sure all the players prefer grass. Kroenke already taking heat for not putting grass in his new multi-billion $ stadium. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Oh, you can bet that natural grass field will be as state of the art as they come. It won't be bad at all, plus it's easier on the human body. Edited February 28, 2022 by H2o 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 But it also might not be announced this week. Stay tuned. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, H2o said: Oh, you can bet that natural grass field will be as state of the art as they come. It won't be bad at all, plus it's easier on the human body. I believe I read somewhere that it'll be heated, which will keep the players warmer and keep the ground softer and the grass from going dormant 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Unless the field is heated. I am not saying this is wise, though it is possible. https://fitseer.com/do-football-fields-have-heated-lines/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Steptide said: I believe I read somewhere that it'll be heated, which will keep the players warmer and keep the ground softer and the grass from going dormant Yes. Arrowhead has a heated field as well and it holds up nicely throughout the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. I can see how you can think that, especially about how that turf in the old Municipal Stadium used to look.. trust me.. but i do prefer natural grass for the reasons some have stated on here .. its come along way from that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The real question is how old will Zach Ertz be by the time this gets done. 1 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. It's not 1960 anymore... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 The grass field will be heated. Short of a dome, this is the best we can hope for, i.e. a stadium with an overhang to shield the fans and to a large extent the field/players from the elements (especially the wind, but not the cold), while no more infill means they can clean the field of snow properly and the heating will help as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: It will finally be nice to get past all of the talking and finally get shovels in the ground. Do we need to bring our own? Will lunch be provided? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: Fingers are crossed. You can't rule out state politics from mucking this up. The sooner the better. Looking forward to having a stadium that has extra wide concourses, lavatories that don't include 50 foot cow trough urinals that led to 300' lines at halftime, decent high tech scoreboards that are visible from more than 200', party decks in the end zones, decent restaurant options, and an overhang that protects 75% of the fans. Outdoor football baby. the way God meant it to be!! The troughs are sooo much more efficient than urinals. You can fit twice as many people into the same space. To hell with the dome, save the trough! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Perhaps we can get some volunteers to construct a temporary dome in the meantime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) Scott Chandler is ready for the groundbreaking ceremony: Edited February 28, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Let's get that dome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: But it also might not be announced this week. Stay tuned. Got a source? 3 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: Fingers are crossed. You can't rule out state politics from mucking this up. The sooner the better. Looking forward to having a stadium that has extra wide concourses, lavatories that don't include 50 foot cow trough urinals that led to 300' lines at halftime, decent high tech scoreboards that are visible from more than 200', party decks in the end zones, decent restaurant options, and an overhang that protects 75% of the fans. Outdoor football baby. the way God meant it to be!! Troughs with strategic circular sinks for overflow capacity minimized lines. You can fit way more people around a trough/sink as long as everyone agrees to the social contract* than you can in a row of single urinals. *Don't make it weird if you accidentally touch tips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Question for you, why does grass grow in the summer? Answer because the ground gets warmer. Put heaters under the field, which I believe they already stated they plan to do to keep the field from freezing. Would the heaters keep it growing all year, no likely once we get to the bitter cold of January would stop growing, but by then you're down to last potential game or two anyway and would still be OK for a couple more weeks. What typically makes the grass look terrible every winter is once it gets buried by snow and gets no sunlight, it turns brown. Can recall winters with little snow, lawn barely turned color. Maybe they even plan to put artificial sunlamps in the overhang area to help it grow a bit longer. Think they have grounds keepers too that tend to know a little more than the typical homeowner does about how to keep their lawn looking best. And BTW when I lived in Rochester, I'd typically mow till Thanksgiving, Often had to let the 1st or even 2nd snow cover melt to get the final mowing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Depends entirely on the type of turf/drainage/heating system they install or don’t install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Vic Carucci's article yesterday kind of stated the same, expected the deal to be announced very soon, they were wrapping things up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Everything about the new stadium is stupid. The location. The price. Not slapping a roof on it. What a gigantic waste of money. Edited February 28, 2022 by Process 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Ross Murdock said: Fingers are crossed. You can't rule out state politics from mucking this up. The sooner the better. Looking forward to having a stadium that has extra wide concourses, lavatories that don't include 50 foot cow trough urinals that led to 300' lines at halftime, decent high tech scoreboards that are visible from more than 200', party decks in the end zones, decent restaurant options, and an overhang that protects 75% of the fans. Outdoor football baby. the way God meant it to be!! If you haven’t pi$$ed in a 50 foot trough, you haven’t passed the Buffalo Bills fandom initiation.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: while no more infill means they can clean the field of snow properly A great point I had not even considered. Bring on the heated natural grass field! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: If you haven’t pi$$ed in a 50 foot trough, you haven’t passed the Buffalo Bills fandom initiation.. Those where the sinks. But when in Rome... 2 minutes ago, eball said: A great point I had not even considered. Bring on the heated natural grass field! That at least partially explains how an open air stadium will end up costing as much as a dome. Most stands covered, heated field and concourses, It's basically a dome with a donut hole. I will concede on the downtown dome thing, but I hope the Pegulas look at adding commercial development to the stadium campus. A scaled down Patriot Place. And for heaven's sake, build some hotels!! Edited February 28, 2022 by PromoTheRobot 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. not if it’s built with drainage and heating systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Process said: Everything about the new stadium is stupid. The location. The price. Not slapping a roof on it. What a gigantic waste of money. Some people can find a way to complain about a free lunch. The Bills have one of the most fun, unique, one-of-a-kind gameday atmospheres in pro sports. It has been beloved by Bills fans for years and years. It boggles my mind that all of a sudden everyone wants to uproot it, stick it in the middle of a downtown area (which is the last thing I'd ever want, because going to NFL games in downtown areas STINKS), and put a roof on it. I don't get it. It looks like we get to keep our Bills in Buffalo for the long haul (which was anything but a given just a few short years ago), we get a brand new stadium with much more of the seating covered and protected from the elements, we get to keep it in Orchard Park, where the gameday experience, I promise you, is way more enjoyable than some downtown area with no room for tailgating would be...and best of all, it looks like the budget will likely pass and the thing will actually get built and -- let me say this again -- it all adds up to us NOT LOSING OUR TEAM TO ANOTHER CITY!!! And yet....I still see endless crying about roof, location, waste of money, etc. It's madness to me. Bills are staying in Orchard Park. Natural grass. No roof. Get over it. 5 5 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I just want to see the design. I love Hard Rock and Allegiant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Natural grass is ridiculoius stupid!. Most WNYers stop mowing their lawns by mid October. A brand spanking new stadium that will look like old Cleveland Stadium by Thanksgiving with 2 more months yet to play? I just can’t believe the Pegulas would be so stupid. Well, they did hire Rex...😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Seems so odd that they're going through all this trouble trying to weatherproof an open air stadium when they can simply build a dome. Just get it done though as we're lucky to have a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Seems so odd that they're going through all this trouble trying to weatherproof an open air stadium when they can simply build a dome. Just get it done though as we're lucky to have a team. Or at least a retractable roof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Logic said: The Bills have one of the most fun, unique, one-of-a-kind gameday atmospheres in pro sports. It has been beloved by Bills fans for years and years. And yet, you couldn't give tickets away for free in December. But sure, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Krentist Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Got a source? Troughs with strategic circular sinks for overflow capacity minimized lines. You can fit way more people around a trough/sink as long as everyone agrees to the social contract* than you can in a row of single urinals. *Don't make it weird if you accidentally touch tips. Does eye contact make it weird? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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