[Edit] Jon Gruden resigns over controversial emails discovered in WFT investigation

[VaMilBill]

I don’t know what all the emails say specifically. But could Gruden have been annoyed that the nfl basically blackmailed the Rams into drafting Michael Sam to avoid hard knocks?

[Captain Caveman]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Cancel culture does exist.

 

That being said, Gruden has no one to blame but himself.

 

Accountability exists

[The Jokeman]

11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Mayock sucks and should be fired for being a crap GM

I don't disagree.

[djp14150]

2 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Wade Phillips v. Buffalo Bills.  He fired me!  He resigned!  He fired me!  He resigned!  All depends on what's in the contract.  I would argue that if Gruden was fired, it would be for cause.

this was for cause.  They likely have some settlement buy out in this or they let him keep signing bonus money.

[CorkScrewHill]

Gruden asked Derek Carr if people could park on his lawn for the Yard Sale Chucky is about to have. Carr is organizing a community group to help Gruden pack up.

 

Image of Derek carr when the news was broken to him

[wppete]

4 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

Ehh. Raiders were gonna fall apart with or without Gruden. Lol

 😂 True. They are garbage.

[Mango]

2 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

I don’t know what all the emails say specifically. But could Gruden have been annoyed that the nfl basically blackmailed the Rams into drafting Michael Sam to avoid hard knocks?

And that’s why he called Goodell a f*****t? 
 

Not getting where this one is going. 

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Gruden isn’t getting hired as an analyst anytime soon

His career in football is over.   

[Jauronimo]

How did these emails surface?

[RiotAct]

8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

oh yikes.  The original email that surfaced was sort of a nothingburger IMO, but this is on a whole different level.

[BigAl2526]

Maybe Gruden can get a role in the next Dukes of Hazzard movie.  He would be terrific as Boss Hogg.

[Doc Brown]

7 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Gruden isn’t getting hired as an analyst anytime soon

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

What amazes me the most is the emails were over a 7 year period, and nothing ever came out about this till now!

[Warcodered]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

How did these emails surface?

sent to a former WTF FO person....distraction from the DEA?

[Mark Vader]

4 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Right, but I think there's a big difference between ***** cancel culture and very valid complaints over these emails, ESPECIALLY if they were sending pics of topless women and cheerleaders back and forth.  

 

4 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Accountability exists

Like I said.....Gruden has no one to blame but himself.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Just an obvious douchebag his whole career.  Good riddance.  To those crying cancel culture, people would have been getting fired for this kind of egregious stuff for decades now.

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

How did these emails surface?

The league was conducting an unrelated investigation involving WFT (big surprise there.) Bruce Allen was who Gruden was talking to. Someone at the league involved in the investigation leaked them.

[stevewin]

Lucky for Mark Davis, Rex Ryan is available 

[MJS]

Wow. Gruden really tried his best to offend as many groups and people as possible. That's impressive!

[Jauronimo]

Just now, JoPoy88 said:

The league was conducting an unrelated investigation involving WFT (big surprise there.) Bruce Allen was who Gruden was talking to. Someone at the league involved in the investigation leaked them.

Was Gruden using his personal email or were these from a team or ESPN address?

[Mango]

I don't even work in football and if HR caught an email from me calling Goodell a f*****, ripping on females in sports, talking about black peoples lips, and being upset about gay people being in the work place, I might also get fired. 

[BuffaloRebound]

Just now, MJS said:

Wow. Gruden really tried his best to offend as many groups and people as possible. That's impressive!

And the amazing thing is there are still some people defending him.  

[klos63]

17 minutes ago, vincec said:

Welcome to 2021.

Should the Raiders/League ignore this and do nothing?

[JoPoy88]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

Was Gruden using his personal email or were these from a team or ESPN address?

Gruden was using his private account, Allen was using his official, team account. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

Was Gruden using his personal email or were these from a team or ESPN address?

 

Said above ESPN address.

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, klos63 said:

Should the Raiders/League ignore this and do nothing?

Probably in the minds of half this board, "yes."

 

 

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

How did these emails surface?

 

 

NFL is investigating the WFT trainers.

 

They came across the emails. 

 

They released them to the media.   

[Success]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Said above ESPN address.

 

That almost seems impossible.

 

No one seems to think 2 seconds in advance anymore.  

[SDS]

Whether it be Jon Gruden or people in this topic… when people tell you who they are - believe them. 

[Solomon Grundy]

42 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Didn’t he watch Child’s Play? I would’ve just blamed the emails on Chucky😎

[PetermansRedemption]

16 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean if he's resigning wouldn't he lose the years he's skipping out on?

I have to feel if this was the case, he wouldn’t be resigning and would force them to fire him. Unless he has some kind of moral clause and he knew he wouldn’t be compensated regardless. 

[klos63]

11 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

It’s a lot of hypocrisy.  If this has happened last year, then that’s one thing.  But this happened a decade when Gruden was in a completely different situation and our world was a much different place.  

It happened over the course of 7 years, ending, i believe when the Raiders hired him.

[Warcodered]

Just now, PetermansRedemption said:

I have to feel if this was the case, he wouldn’t be resigning and would force them to fire him. Unless he has some kind of moral clause and he knew he wouldn’t be compensated regardless. 

From how they explained it on T.V. it sounds like he "resigned" 😉

[Jauronimo]

What are the chances that the leak in the NFL head office is Goodell himself?

[Captain Caveman]

6 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

sent to a former WTF FO person....distraction from the DEA?

100% this is being leaked 1. to distract from that investigation and 2. because he personally insulted people in power and makes a perfect patsy.

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Wow. Gruden really tried his best to offend as many groups and people as possible. That's impressive!

158.3 offensive rating.

Just now, Jauronimo said:

What are the chances that the leak in the NFL head office is Goodell himself?

High

[klos63]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

And the amazing thing is there are still some people defending him.  

I don't like people losing their jobs over being an idiot, although in this situation he probably had to, but people shouldn't defend him. That's just crazy.

[Richard Noggin]

8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Could easily photoshop "meals" to read as "emails." Just sayin

[Captain Caveman]

Just now, Jauronimo said:

What are the chances that the leak in the NFL head office is Goodell himself?

 

My guess is this started from Washington Football Team, although I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell was involved to some extent.

[JoPoy88]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Said above ESPN address.

The Times story claims otherwise. Not really that important anyways.