PromoTheRobot Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 As long as we understand that he is a mercenary I’m good with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 This is my shocked face. 😐 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Honor your deal. You signed it and got the upfront money. 7 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Shocking. Character shows, and Stephen Gilmore apparently has none. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 He does not need the money he will pay in fines. My guess is he shows up week 10 and does his usual loafing in contract year so he does not get hurt "tackling". 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 He should holdout for a trade and take the most money he can get. He's earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honor your deal. You signed it and got the upfront money. Normally I agree but phluck the Pats. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Rams about to trade their 2037 and 2038 1st and 2nd round picks, leaving them without a 1st or 2nd until 2039. 1 1 28 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honor your deal. You signed it and got the upfront money. Does Belichick honor those deals? No. Does any team? No. Why should the player have the same expectation? Did you say the Bills should have honored John Brown's deal instead of cutting him? 6 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I don't care at all. I have no issue with players holding out but I don't think he is in as strong as position as he thinks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 FWIW, I dont mind giving up a second rounder to the Pats to get him. Would like to see Mahomes throw into White + Gilmore with Hydoyer lurking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) PFT said that Gilmore's $7mm this year is really a lot more, but in a re-structure last year they moved (like $4.5mm iirc) from this year to last year, as cashish. "His minicamp plans have been a question because he’s heading into the final year of his contract with a salary of $7 million after the team moved $4.5 million of his base salary into his 2020 compensation and missing all of this week’s work would signal he wants a new deal in New England." So his real compensation for this year is much more than 7. Yeah, $11.5mm might still be below market, but still . . . And makes the argument "you signed the deal, so stop crying" much stronger in this situation. Edited June 14, 2021 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: FWIW, I dont mind giving up a second rounder to the Pats to get him. Would like to see Mahomes throw into White + Gilmore with Hydoyer lurking. First, don't give a high pick to an AFCE team, particularly the Pats, for an aging player. Second, Gilmore is looking for more than he's getting from the Pats ($7M). Do you think the Bills have cash available? Third, it isn't the DBs who struggled against Mahomes, it was the LBs trying to stop Kelce. If teams could spend unlimited money on players, sure, I'd love to have Gilmore back for a couple of years, during our SB window. In the real world, it doesn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 If you read this website and BBMB when Gilmore was here....he's not even good enough to be our #2 corner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: Shocking. Character shows, and Stephen Gilmore apparently has none. Always been chasin money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Normally I agree but phluck the Pats. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: He does not need the money he will pay in fines. My guess is he shows up week 10 and does his usual loafing in contract year so he does not get hurt "tackling". Or just do his usual "it wasn't my fault" look. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Ship him off to Houston so he can reunite with Tuh-Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Does Belichick honor those deals? No. Does any team? No. Why should the player have the same expectation? Did you say the Bills should have honored John Brown's deal instead of cutting him? I'm pretty sure John Brown is getting paid everything that was guaranteed in his contract. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain_Quint said: He should holdout for a trade and take the most money he can get. He's earned it. Belichik will trade him to the Jaguars. That should soot that overrated turd. Just like they did with Jamie Collins some years back. Shipped him to Cleveland right around the time they went winless. Patriots don't play w that holdout stuff. During the Belichik era, team means everything unless your name is Brady or Gronkowski. The rest are just pieces on a chessboard. Well paid pieces. But noone is going to lose sleep in Foxboro if Gilmore holds out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I'm pretty sure John Brown is getting paid everything that was guaranteed in his contract. If NFLPA wanted guaranteed contracts NFL would be a very different game and teams would not be signing these huge deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 He’s probably got decent trade value if he’s willing to play for $7m this year. Bet New England could get a 3rd for him if he’s not demanding a new contract from acquiring team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: As long as we understand that he is a mercenary I’m good with it Who do he think he is... Darrell Revis??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Ramsey and Gilmore on the same team how can any Bills fan not root for the Rams 🙄 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: FWIW, I dont mind giving up a second rounder to the Pats to get him. Would like to see Mahomes throw into White + Gilmore with Hydoyer lurking. Igotbills, I definitely as many hate this would agree with you, but he’s not showing up for $. He would be a great #2, but is he really taking $8 mil. To come back. If he would, our defense would improve. I just don’t see it. it would be fun in Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 just wait till he goes to a team that doesn't get the "Patriot" treatment and he will be flagged more often then not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Does Belichick honor those deals? No. Does any team? No. Why should the player have the same expectation? Did you say the Bills should have honored John Brown's deal instead of cutting him? Thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Thread. How is his response end thread? The subject is "Is Gilmore holding out?" Its a question if he's holding out or not. Not some player v owners politics crap. Btw the players union agreed to these rules so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 The diva is Hoodie's problem now. So glad we let him go and got Tre. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Bferra13 said: How is his response end thread? The subject is "Is Gilmore holding out?" Its a question if he's holding out or not. Not some player v owners politics crap. Btw the players union agreed to these rules so... Given what the thread had turned into the premise also answers the thread as well. Players hold out all the time for more money and also do not always attend OTAs. Just as well as coaches and teams don't honor contracts. Reg NFL business. Edited June 15, 2021 by Ghost_002! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Or just do his usual "it wasn't my fault" look. The “Gilmore Glance”. When Stephon stares at the Jumbotron after he gets toasted to put some question in peoples mind to what happened….nope, you got burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Gilmore is a turd, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Virgil said: Honor your deal. You signed it and got the upfront money. meh. The deal has measures for this and I doubt anyone in the room negotiating genuinely thought he’d play on a 1 year 7m deal Edited June 15, 2021 by NoSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Does Belichick honor those deals? No. Does any team? No. Why should the player have the same expectation? Did you say the Bills should have honored John Brown's deal instead of cutting him? I agree here. It’s a big money business with a limited employment period as a player. I don’t blame any single player for trying to maximize their income while they can, however they can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Virgil said: Honor your deal. You signed it and got the upfront money. Please. The club can fire him as long as they're willing to face the consequences. He can hold out as long as he's also willing to face the consequences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 He’ll show up eventually. He’ll want the $ from his contract. He really doesn’t have much leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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