PonyBoy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 37 minutes ago, Logic said: Who's Stefon Diggs? You're new to this board aren't you? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: I wasn't making any assessment of who's better, just stating our starters. But OK, swap Halmer for Shorter, so Shakir, who played Slot last season, now at wide, Samuel, who has to play Slot, and Hamler. Is that an encouraging starting WR corps? LOL People criticized and slammed our past WR corps, this should be a real hoot with the sentiments if it isn't seriously upgraded. I agree with that. Trading your obvious top WR for nothing doesn’t help in the near term at all. Diggs 100000000% wants to win. Cutting through all the noise that is what comes through loud and clear. Allen has taken to partying the last few years. Deny it all anyone wants but it is true. He has immense talent and he gives his all on the field but that hasn’t been enough because he screws around too much. Now our receivers will know what happens if you try to push 17 to work harder/be better. A franchise realistically has to build around the QB but the QB needs to work. 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Roundybout said: Not this year Just now, SWATeam said: What is so smart about paying Diggs all these bonuses to then be stuck with all this dead cap? Houston can absolutely agree to take on any/all of the remaining amount. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 22 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: I'd much prefer Nabers. Way more explosive. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, gordong said: Texans Team Cap Space: $29,649,676 Well hopefully it’ll be updated to -2m in an hour or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Chicken Boo said: I don't have a good enough grasp of the trade compensation to make a guess, but it feels like a trade up. This I will say, Curtis Samuel's role is now HUGE. He is a weapon and it is now all but confirmed that he'll be used as such. LOL, Samuel's had plenty of opportunity to be HUGE and has never even sniffed those results. 7 seasons to be precise. The trade compensation was this year's 6th and next year's 2nd and 5th. And you're right, Samuel's role is now HUGE, but honestly, anyone expecting that to materialize in the way that we need is going to be incredibly disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, SWATeam said: What is so smart about paying Diggs all these bonuses to then be stuck with all this dead cap? If you or I knew that, we could answer. We don't have access to the books or what was/is going on. We're not GM. We're arm chair QBs. We know NOTHING> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: I mean.. Diggs isn't prime Tyreek. We're getting a '25 2nd Round pick, but it's the Vikings pick. Good chance that pick is in the top half of the 2nd Round next year. Clearly part of the calculus is using a high pick next year to move up this year. That’s what I’m thinking…the tyreek hill trade has warped everyone’s compensation ideas a bit. Diggs isn’t even remotely close to the player tyreek is at this stage in their careers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said: The WR room is going to be completely different. Wow. I'm a fan of that. This team needs new blood in lots of places 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I'm curious to see what this does for our cap situation. If we take on a massive dead cap hit then I'm not a fan. Our WR room is utterly horrendous right now. Luckily we don't plan a game next weekend. Plenty of time to get that sorted out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, MJS said: Diggs performs well when he is mentally and emotionally well, so I think he'll probably go there and be pretty happy and perform well. Until something passes him off and he starts sulking again. Talented receiver, but he is too volatile. Pretty much this. Diggs is a force when he wants to be. When he doesn’t want to be we get the disappearing act during the second half of last season and the guy that let a beautiful Josh Allen bomb go right through his hands in the playoff game against KC. We can’t have that. This is the type of move the best teams make. The Patriots would never have put up with it. KC traded Tyreek Hill. I was under the assumption the Bills would just cut Diggs next off-season. They just moved it up 12 months and received compensation for doing so. We were on the verge of life post-Stefon. It just happened a bit sooner than I thought. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who is they? Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Diggs had his moment to prove he was worth the infighting, the drama and the social media distractions, and this is what he did... When you come up THAT SMALL in a big moment, you're not worth the headache. 5 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Dead cap is dead cap. It's roster bonuses, restructure, and signing bonuses. You can't trade it - its basically compensation that was spread over several years. All base salary, workout bonuses and per game active bonuses are acquired by the new team. Teams can do whatever they want, we’ve seen teams include cash in trades before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, boyst said: 12-15 if you're lucky. Houston putting Diggs in the slot would be a great move. Dell is their slot guy and he’s better then Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Curtis Samuel is our #1 WR right now. Beane definitely has something up his sleeve wether it’s drafting back to back WR this year, trading for Higgins/Aiyuk or trading up for Harrison/Odunze/Nabors, something will get done since Beane at least up until now hasn’t done things on the fly for no reasoning. something has to get done, and it should be one of the WRs in the draft you mentioned (I'd even add Thomas) coupled with a FA you noted or drafting 2 WRs (but that's hard with the trade up). Or, draft Odunze and Polk perhaps, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 F*ck it. Just get Marvin Harrison or one of the top guys now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Have no idea if numbers are correct but this is among the early info out on cap situation. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, <bills4life> said: Umm yeah…. There was this guy once named Andre reed Reed wasn't half the player Diggs is. 1 3 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 24 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Mods, can you change my username to Allen2TBD That's the hazard of putting a player's name in your user name. This board is full of people who I bet wish they could change their outdated user names. ***** Hey Diggs: I really liked you in the beginning. But as time marched on, your mouth started writing checks you can't cash. Someone with your stats ought not be criticizing a Top-5 QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said: https://twitter.com/GregTompsett/status/1775545474776240552 I'm no gambler but I bet Beane isn't as confounded as Greg Tompsett. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Teams can do whatever they want, we’ve seen teams include cash in trades before. You can't trade cap space, and you can't trade dead cap. It is money that was already paid and using bonus models to spread it across multiple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Houston can absolutely agree to take on any/all of the remaining amount. The remaining amount of the money we already paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Is tee Higgins at all possible to get Higgins, Ayiuk and D. Adams would be the available trade targets. Appears this off season Beane is looking to start phase 2 of the Josh era and getting younger which would cross off Adams (and his large contract). I don't see Cinci trading Higgins to the Bills or any other AFC contender but could be a FA target next year. Ayiuk was rumored to be offered to Jax for #17 and Z Jones... He will need an extension but that can massaged to fit this year. Ayiuk would be the target if Beane is looking for an immediate trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Says who? Link to the financials? I read like three articles that said the Bills eat the dead cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: this ONLY makes sense if we are trading up for Harrison, Odueb (sp), or Nabers. Not even Thomas may warrant this, but if we don't land one of those 4 from the draft this is an utter failure, and Josh should be asking for a trade next. Agreed, unless they have another trade in mind for an established #1 in the league. I don't know if there's anyone available I'd be super excited about though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Football wise...I am EXCITED about the roles of Shakir and Kincaid expanding. Management wise, I am puzzled why we didn't do this after June 1st and lessen the cap burden given we didn't get back any draft capital in this draft. I am actually not that concerned about the offense, I think we will still be an elite offense, I mean we were last year and went 6-1 with our WR1 and WR2 producing very little in that time last year. I just don't understand the timing if we didn't get a pick in this draft. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 You don't waste a prime year of Josh Allen. I'm sorry, you just don't. And we're not. This is a gamble, but this move wasn't made in a vacuum.. Beane is still a top tier GM and I firmly believe this move has corresponding moves for this upcoming season. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Heels20X6 said: Diggs had his moment to prove he was worth the infighting, the drama and the social media distractions, and this is what he did... When you come up THAT SMALL in a big moment, you're not worth the headache. Now do Josh’s 3rd down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 31 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The guy is the best WR the Bills ever had. Thanks for this. McDermott better win this thing basically now or I don’t want to keep running this ***** back. Andre Reed and Eric Moulds say “hold my beer”. After that, Diggs is in the argument. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Have no idea if numbers are correct but this is among the early info out on cap situation. That's the "by the book" breakdown. Houston can take on any amount they want, and even trade us cash for a player. We'll have to see how this shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 anyone know what the picks are? If we get nothing in this draft, we are screwed at WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Big Blitz said: Dell is their slot guy and he’s better then Diggs Alright... he's a rookie who was having a very promising season. I don't know that many would say he is better than diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: I read like three articles that said the Bills eat the dead cap. 31 million in dead cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If this was strategic, as opposed to reactive, it would’ve happened a month ago before all of the WR-needy teams picked a mate, or during the draft. This was a reaction to something, plain and simple. And it’s a terrible look for the organization - they signed him to this contract and kept adding money to it, yet they couldn’t make it work. And this regime ALWAYS finds some reason why they have to wait to fix the offense until some future year. ALWAYS. 3 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, BritBill said: I'm no gambler but I bet Beane isn't as confounded as Greg Tompsett. I see no way to explain away the extension as a good move. It was reckless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, BullBuchanan said: I thought this looked like a rebuild year before this trade and now it's 100% confirmed. Absolutely insane roster mismanagement. He might've been the only player left on the team that actually wanted to win a Super Bowl. The guy disappeared the last 3 years in the playoffs. Him not being on offense on paper makes the offense worst. This isnt paper its humans. The subtraction of Diggs for the 24 Bills will be interesting to see. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Adios…. He wasn’t any good in Brady’s O anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdragon2 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Football wise...I am EXCITED about the roles of Shakir and Kincaid expanding. Management wise, I am puzzled why we didn't do this after June 1st and lessen the cap burden given we didn't get back any draft capital in this draft. I am actually not that concerned about the offense, I think we will still be an elite offense, I mean we were last year and went 6-1 with our WR1 and WR2 producing very little in that time last year. I just don't understand the timing if we didn't get a pick in this draft. We traded some of *our* 2024 picks. thats why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, BritBill said: I'm no gambler but I bet Beane isn't as confounded as Greg Tompsett. So it makes sense to trade someone in the first year of their extension and take a cap hit thats really hard to eat. Im still confused how this happens with the cap. who are we cutting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Ever since Halloween last year something was up. Yes media blows things out of proportion but duo clearly went from bffs to at first cold. Then almost like an awkward forced professional relationship. I’ll try to find the good that he became a headache and disappeared second half season due to age. Don’t love next year 2nd rounder. This offense is lacking but still draft and time make up for it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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