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Emmanuel Acho’s Top 5 AFC Teams


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I am not sure he is wrong.  The Bills had a hard time beating the Dolphins with Skylar Thompson and the Jets with Zach Wilson.   The division is going to be a dog fight this year.

 

The Bills desperately needed to get better at WR 2 this off-season and they didn't.  They didn't keep up with the AFC arms race at offense and their defense couldn't do enough last year to make a difference.   

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19 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I am not sure he is wrong.  The Bills had a hard time beating the Dolphins with Skylar Thompson and the Jets with Zach Wilson.   The division is going to be a dog fight this year.

 

The Bills desperately needed to get better at WR 2 this off-season and they didn't.  They didn't keep up with the AFC arms race at offense and their defense couldn't do enough last year to make a difference.   

They finished 6.5 games ahead of the Jets, 4.5 games ahead of Miami and 3.5 games ahead of Baltimore. It is unreasonable to think that the Bills regressed enough for ALL of those teams to have closed that chasm. It’s not like a game separated them!!

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31 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I am not sure he is wrong.  The Bills had a hard time beating the Dolphins with Skylar Thompson and the Jets with Zach Wilson.   The division is going to be a dog fight this year.

 

The Bills desperately needed to get better at WR 2 this off-season and they didn't.  They didn't keep up with the AFC arms race at offense and their defense couldn't do enough last year to make a difference.   


The Bills didn’t sign Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern or draft Kincaid or Torrence this past off-season? Funny, I must have been dreaming that because I was all but sure the Bills improved on offense compared to what they had last season.

 

Thanks for setting the record straight.

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People couldn’t wait to move off Buffalo. Max Kellerman, on his show, did a top 5 in the afc and buffalo didn’t make it in either. 
 

It’s honestly super odd how fast mainstream media wanted to move off of a 13-3 squad that lost basically one starter. 
 

It’s the same for Josh Allen. The slander there has only picked up steam as the offseason progresses. You’d never know the man finished 3rd in the MVP voting(AHEAD OF BURROW) when he’s being discussed at this point. 
 

Never seen so many people try and over correct on a team. People are treating them like the first preseason favorite to not win it all. Super odd IMO 

43 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I am not sure he is wrong.  The Bills had a hard time beating the Dolphins with Skylar Thompson and the Jets with Zach Wilson.   The division is going to be a dog fight this year.

 

The Bills desperately needed to get better at WR 2 this off-season and they didn't.  They didn't keep up with the AFC arms race at offense and their defense couldn't do enough last year to make a difference.   

Lol. Nothing like using a one or 2 game sample size as opposed to the 14-4 overall record….. CLASSIC

 

7 minutes ago, Beast said:


The Bills didn’t sign Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern or draft Kincaid or Torrence this past off-season? Funny, I must have been dreaming that because I was all but sure the Bills improved on offense compared to what they had last season.

 

Thanks for setting the record straight.

Not to mention getting Hyde and Miller back this year. Only a couple of all pro’s. No biggie ….  🤷🏻‍♂️

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7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

We were the media darling last year. Someone else’s turn this year. 

Dropping out of the top 5 is more than that. It's an over-correction with a touch of contempt for small market Buffalo, but who cares, really? It will only fuel Allen and Co.

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5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Exactly. I cannot believe how many people care about stuff like this - and get so worked up over it. 

Bingo.  And the sad thing is that we're staring at months and months and months of nothing in terms of actual news regarding the Bills.  So buckle up for more of it.

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41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They finished 6.5 games ahead of the Jets, 4.5 games ahead of Miami and 3.5 games ahead of Baltimore. It is unreasonable to think that the Bills regressed enough for ALL of those teams to have closed that chasm. It’s not like a game separated them!!


the wild card is all 3 of those teams had qb woes last season. If Rodgers, Lamar and tua are healthy, that’s good for a couple games each and suddenly it gets real close. 
 

im not sure you can count on any of them carrying their teams the whole way, but last year was basically worst case scenarios for all 3 teams at the most important position. 
 

we also have a big question mark with millers injury. 
 

even if healthy, hard to say they flip the rank but it gets real close on a few. I think it’s safe to say we are in the second tier with questions to be answered at important positions, but still a contender. Whether that puts us 4 or 6 on a power ranking isn’t too stressful though. 

13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Dropping out of the top 5 is more than that. It's an over-correction with a touch of contempt for small market Buffalo, but who cares, really? It will only fuel Allen and Co.

Or it creates a spicy hot take that gets clicks from all the markets instead of a predictable list that no one wants to deep dive and argue 

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You guys are a bunch of homers. All 3 are playoff teams that will be within a few games of each other. It's not that much of a stretch if someone favors the other 2. You are acting like these are bad teams. The Bills will be lucky to go .500 in the division. It's not the same AFC East anymore

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And? 

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50 minutes ago, Lane Meyer K12 said:

This is a good thing. Hopefully it happens throughout the media. More motivation can be achieved through other people's doubts. 

 

Indeed.

 

Being preseason Super Bowl favorites to not being in the top 5 in the AFC?

 

Ancho's tweet is some combination of click bait and groupthink... basically an open-faced shyt sandwich served for mass consumption... the exact reason I don't have a twitter account.

 

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35 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


the wild card is all 3 of those teams had qb woes last season. If Rodgers, Lamar and tua are healthy, that’s good for a couple games each and suddenly it gets real close. 
 

im not sure you can count on any of them carrying their teams the whole way, but last year was basically worst case scenarios for all 3 teams at the most important position. 
 

we also have a big question mark with millers injury. 
 

even if healthy, hard to say they flip the rank but it gets real close on a few. I think it’s safe to say we are in the second tier with questions to be answered at important positions, but still a contender. Whether that puts us 4 or 6 on a power ranking isn’t too stressful though. 

Or it creates a spicy hot take that gets clicks from all the markets instead of a predictable list that no one wants to deep dive and argue 

I don’t think that a reasonable case can be made, at this point for anywhere below 3. Could it happen, I guess. It’s Occham’s razor. There are a lot of mental gymnastics that he’s using to look upon those teams favorably, while holding a lot of little things against the Bills. The likeliest scenario is that each team has some things better than expected, worse than expected and some injuries. If everyone has “the same luck” the Bills are no worse than 3rd. 

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3 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

But what about the Bills?” Is a fair question: I picked the Bills to win the Super Bowl last year & Josh Allen to win MVP, I believe they’ve peaked.

 

 

whelp, I guess they have peaked, according to Emmanuel... 🙄

So this "expert" supports his absurd AFC top 5 ranking this season by pointing out how wrong he was last season?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Beast said:


The Bills didn’t sign Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern or draft Kincaid or Torrence this past off-season? Funny, I must have been dreaming that because I was all but sure the Bills improved on offense compared to what they had last season.

 

Thanks for setting the record straight.

 

Now please tell me out of all the players you listed which guy is a game changer?   You literally listed two wideouts who havent caught more than 40 passes in a season, a guard who was thought so little of by the team he has actually played snaps for that they didnt resign, a runningback who has never played a full season in the NFL and two rookies.    Yes, the Bills signed players for the offense, but they drafted or signed guys with potential, they didnt make a move to bring in proven guys.  

 

Be as sarcastic as you want but if you think signing Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern, Kincaid and Torrence is the same as signing Aaron Rodgers while already having Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall and Vera Tucker you're a homer.   Go and look at the Jets roster right now compared to what Bills are bringing into the season and then tell me you think the Bills did enough to keep up.  At wideout alone they have Wilson, Lazard, Corey Davis, Randall Cobb and Mecole Hardman.    

 

On the other hand I think the Dolphins are being overrated.  They are phenomenal at wideout, but their oline is still suspect and their Quarterback is fragile.    I am not saying the Bills wont compete to still win the division, I think thats still in reach but if people on this board want to believe that this team is as good as it was in 20, 21 and 22 I think they are fooling themselves.    The Bills are still the Allen and Diggs show, and the defense is aging and ailing.  They are no longer the young hungry team we saw the last five years.     

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6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Now please tell me out of all the players you listed which guy is a game changer?   You literally listed two wideouts who havent caught more than 40 passes in a season, a guard who was thought so little of by the team he has actually played snaps for that they didnt resign, a runningback who has never played a full season in the NFL and two rookies.    Yes, the Bills signed players for the offense, but they drafted or signed guys with potential, they didnt make a move to bring in proven guys.  

 

Be as sarcastic as you want but if you think signing Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern, Kincaid and Torrence is the same as signing Aaron Rodgers while already having Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall and Vera Tucker you're a homer.   Go and look at the Jets roster right now compared to what Bills are bringing into the season and then tell me you think the Bills did enough to keep up.  At wideout alone they have Wilson, Lazard, Corey Davis, Randall Cobb and Mecole Hardman.    

 

On the other hand I think the Dolphins are being overrated.  They are phenomenal at wideout, but their oline is still suspect and their Quarterback is fragile.    I am not saying the Bills wont compete to still win the division, I think thats still in reach but if people on this board want to believe that this team is as good as it was in 20, 21 and 22 I think they are fooling themselves.    The Bills are still the Allen and Diggs show, and the defense is aging and ailing.  They are no longer the young hungry team we saw the last five years.     

You conveniently leave off the fact that the Bills get back a Healthy Micah Hyde and Tre White.  Two game changing players when healthy.  

 

 

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12 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

You conveniently leave off the fact that the Bills get back a Healthy Micah Hyde and Tre White.  Two game changing players when healthy.  

 

 

Didnt leave it out.  I mentioned that the defense is aging and ailing.  33 year old safety coming off a neck injury and a CB trying to regain elite cornerback status at 28 years old.  Like I said, you guys can fool yourself into thinking the Bills will be better than last year, but you're counting on a lot of assumptions.

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8 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Didnt leave it out.  I mentioned that the defense is aging and ailing.  33 year old safety coming off a neck injury and a CB trying to regain elite cornerback status at 28 years old.  Like I said, you guys can fool yourself into thinking the Bills will be better than last year, but you're counting on a lot of assumptions.

So Hyde and White are aging, while no mention of the fact that Rogers is 39 years old?  He is just a game changer regardless of age, while Bills players lose that distinction at 28 or 33?  Even though 2022 was his worst year ever as a starter?  Seems like a completely unbiased opinion.

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20 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Now please tell me out of all the players you listed which guy is a game changer?   You literally listed two wideouts who havent caught more than 40 passes in a season, a guard who was thought so little of by the team he has actually played snaps for that they didnt resign, a runningback who has never played a full season in the NFL and two rookies.    Yes, the Bills signed players for the offense, but they drafted or signed guys with potential, they didnt make a move to bring in proven guys.  

 

Be as sarcastic as you want but if you think signing Sherfield, Harty, Harris, McGovern, Kincaid and Torrence is the same as signing Aaron Rodgers while already having Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall and Vera Tucker you're a homer.   Go and look at the Jets roster right now compared to what Bills are bringing into the season and then tell me you think the Bills did enough to keep up.  At wideout alone they have Wilson, Lazard, Corey Davis, Randall Cobb and Mecole Hardman.    

 

On the other hand I think the Dolphins are being overrated.  They are phenomenal at wideout, but their oline is still suspect and their Quarterback is fragile.    I am not saying the Bills wont compete to still win the division, I think thats still in reach but if people on this board want to believe that this team is as good as it was in 20, 21 and 22 I think they are fooling themselves.    The Bills are still the Allen and Diggs show, and the defense is aging and ailing.  They are no longer the young hungry team we saw the last five years.     

 

Mecole Hardman averages about 35 or so catches a season.  KC thought so little of him they let him go.

Cobb is 33 now and in the last few seasons, is averaging about 35 catches a season.

Corey Davis in his career averages 45 catches a season.  The Titans thought so little of him and let him go.

Alan Lazard in his career averages 33 catches a season.  The Packers thought so little of him they let him go.

It looks like you believe if a team doesn't resign someone, they think very little of them....I'm just using your thought process.

 

James Cook was I believe 9 or so carries away from leading the NFL in yards per carry.  It was 5.7 ypc by the way.  

Damien Harris has 20 TD's in the last 2 seasons.

Since you pointed out we have a RB that hasn't finished a full season....how many has Breece Hall finished?

 

 

7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Didnt leave it out.  I mentioned that the defense is aging and ailing.  33 year old safety coming off a neck injury and a CB trying to regain elite cornerback status at 28 years old.  Like I said, you guys can fool yourself into thinking the Bills will be better than last year, but you're counting on a lot of assumptions.

 

Yours are not assumptions?

 

Are you assuming Aaron Rodgers will return to 2021 or are you guaranteeing it?

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