RD 1, Pick 25: TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah

[Beast]

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, PrimeTime101 said:

for all you guys that think 12 personnel offense cant win a super bowl? WATCH US

Personnel is 12 but it’s really 11 with a TE like Kincaid.

 

They needed a TE who could play all the WR positions to run it. They found him.

[HappyDays]

I don't understand how anyone could hate this pick. We just got an elite pass catcher to pair with Diggs. Go get Hopkins and dare teams to keep up with us.

[Bangarang]

We are an offense that doesn’t use TEs. When Knox got his new contract I said it would be a bargain if his usage increased a lot but it didn’t. Same applies here. Could be a great pick if Dorsey has a plan on how he wants to use him and get him the ball. If we just go through the motions with him like we do a lot of other players then it becomes a head scratcher. 
 

I imagine Dorsey asked for this so hopefully he can get creative with 2 TE sets. 

[NoSaint]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

In his presser Beane just said that they aren't asking him to do much in the way of blocking. Wonder if they see him more of a big slot than doing much on-line by that comment.

it’s incredibly obvious that is how he will get his start, and grow from there 

 

that said, he will still be more physical than mckenzie or such 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, eball said:

This thread is already hilarious.  Beane just snagged the best TE in the draft — an offensive weapon when we need to keep giving Josh weapons.

 

The people who think they “know” what Dorsey does and doesn’t like…smh.

 

And screwing Jerry Jones in the process?  Double bonus.

 

Go Bills.  RELAX people.  Beane has this.

 

As maybe the biggest DK on this board (I’m claiming him), they only question I would have is him or Mayer since MM is the better all around TE. But DK is such a better weapon offensively and I do believe a lot of blocking is effort and I think he can be serviceable. 
 

for first time that I can remember, we have a guy who could be a legit top 5 TE. Guys what QBs like? Big guys who get open for east completions!!!

[Deep Voice]

3 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

He literally never drops the ball and that’s something this team needs desperately. 

 

 

YEAH

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, HappyDays said:

I don't understand how anyone could hate this pick. We just got an elite pass catcher to pair with Diggs. Go get Hopkins and dare teams to keep up with us.

They aren’t getting Hopkins or any other WR that will play next year.

[Eastport bills]

With all the top receivers off the board this was the best way to get Josh a big red zone receiver and a guy that can get vertical against LBs. I like the pick, he looked unstoppable against USC. I thought they moved up to get Nolan Smith to replace Edmunds.

[BuffaloBillyG]

12 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Dorsey was a rookie last season.  People get better at their jobs.  No reason to have a knee-jerk response based on the assumption that Dorsey won't be better.

You only quote the one part and not the part where I literally say I'm going to give it time to see what Dorsey does. I think had you quoted my entire comment you would see it is literally the opposite of knee jerk. 

[GETTOTHE50]

3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

looks like kelce out there and i love it. hes definitely more dynamic than knox in the passing game. they will both complement each other and offense well.

[JackKemp]

I know before I finish this that the NFL is not College. I am a Georgia fan. I watched their offense kill teams with their 2 TE sets and a playmaker in Brock Bowers who is more of a full back/WR like Kincaid. This is a a great pick. It will help in the running game too. He is going to be a good downfield and second level blocking mismatch. You can’t think traditionally with this pick. 

Edited April 28, 2023 by JackKemp
Left out a word

[VW82]

3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Beane seems to see him as Big Beasley. If they use him as a WR/TE hybrid then this pick will work great.

 

If they try playing classical 2 TE style though they’ll look dumb.

 

They won't keep him on the line but why wouldn't we mix in the odd 2 TE set with these guys? That's a look we haven't had.  

[Process]

A lot of pressure on Dorsey now. He must evolve.

[dma0034]

I can't be the only one that thinks Knox is extremely over-rated? I didn't want the Bills to extend him. Happy about this pick

[Niagara Dude]

5 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

it’s the weather.

Why are people even making these comments ,  this pick is going to cost Breane .  We needed help at other positions and they could have used a 4th to grab the massive TE from Georgia .  

[Yantha]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They aren’t getting Hopkins or any other WR that will play next year.

Agreed.  I think we just drafted our "WR".

[Andy1]

Glad we got a guy with great hands as a weapon for Josh. The offense will need to evolve to make the most of this pick. I’m so glad we didn’t get a Smurf receiver. We needed to get bigger and more physical on offense. He also fits as a player who will work when the snow flies.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

4 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Kincaid broke the Bills mold of drafting youngsters.  Kincaid is 23.5 years old. 

His hairline is 46.5 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

OMG keep crying about 14M does it hurt the team. Nope. I don’t need the jacked up Beasley to block DEs. As I said LEARN the game 

Ummm yes?… it’s not baseball with no salary cap so yes It would hurt the roster building… you can keep pushing The cap down the road by extensions/restructures, but got to pay the piper eventually.

 

So just ignore  the fact that Josh likes throwing to WRs and we traded up for TE when we underuse our starting TE?

 

We traded up for a TE so, 32.5 catches for Kincaid this year. Over/under?

[gobills404]

He’s gonna be Josh’s #2 target after Diggs 

[Big C]

7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

though as mentioned early in the night, 4 was the price for 25 and 3 would get them to like 22 or such. It was a predictable price. Not a guy I would’ve guessed it for but with the right coordinator our talent is a real challenge on defenses. 
 

hines and Kincaid on the field with knox/Davis/diggs creates a good bit of pressure with 5 guys that have the whole route tree or a physical run set. 

Yeah. I like this better than any WR they might have taken in this range.

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

We are an offense that doesn’t use TEs. When Knox got his new contract I said it would be a bargain if his usage increased a lot but it didn’t. Same applies here. Could be a great pick if Dorsey has a plan on how he wants to use him and get him the ball. If we just go through the motions with him like we do a lot of other players then it becomes a head scratcher. 
 

I imagine Dorsey asked for this so hopefully he can get creative with 2 TE sets. 

Stop thinking of him as a TE. Start thinking of him as a Jacked up Slot WR

[Motorin']

26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Best hands in draft. Better than the WRs 

 

And excels against zone. 

[offyourocker]

Maybe we trade Knox for Hopkins?

[BillsFanForever19]

Dying at all the posters who read Michael Mayer is Gronk 2.0 and fell in love simply off of that and parrot the comparison to say we chose the wrong TE.

 

Dalton Kincaid was the top TE in the class.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

Agreed.  I think we just drafted our "WR".

Yep. Could draft depth WR but I think they go with a big person or LB.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Reed83HOF]

 

[sullim4]

I like the pick.  Knox simply has not been a reliable pass catcher and Kincaid seems much better at that.

 

I was never a fan of the Knox contract, and this feels like Beane would want it back if he had the chance as well.

[Yantha]

2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

He’s gonna be Josh’s #2 target after Diggs 

 

Eventually.  I think this lit a fire under the whole offense.  Knox and Davis are pulling all nighters at the gym.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

29 minutes ago, beerme1 said:

Our Gronk? Bye Knox?

We finally got Zach ERTZ!

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

In his presser Beane just said that they aren't asking him to do much in the way of blocking. Wonder if they see him more of a big slot than doing much on-line by that comment.

They shouldn’t ask him to block much. This is a passing team full stop. It was a shame last year Knox had to stay in more because of the line issues. But even if those issues persist, this kid is a pass catcher, pure and simple. 
 

And I’d bet Beane had a higher grade on DK than some of the wideouts that went before him. Dan Jeremiah had him 9th overall.

[Special K]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

I don't understand how anyone could hate this pick. We just got an elite pass catcher to pair with Diggs. Go get Hopkins and dare teams to keep up with us.

 

I watched that game...Kincaid is a really good player.

 

I had my sights set on the Bills drafting an OT like Darnell Wright in round 1, but since he and the other good Tackles were off the board, Kincaid is a darn good consolation prize!

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ummm yes?… it’s not baseball with no salary cap so yes It would hurt the roster building… you can keep pushing The cap down the road by extensions/restructures, but got to pay the piper eventually.

 

So just ignore  the fact that Josh likes throwing to WRs and we traded up for TE when we underuse our starting TE?

 

We traded up for a TE so, 32.5 catches for Kincaid this year. Over/under?

Except it doesn’t. Those that cannot evaluate the game or players turn to cap talk.  Do you. 

[WotAGuy]

12 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

ALL THE HATERS DON'T KNOW JACK!!

Umm….his name is “Dalton”. 

[offyourocker]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

And excels against zone. 

We need that and the great hands.

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

His hairline is 46.5 

 

Couple more years and he'll be one aerodynamic sonofabitch

[NoSaint]

Just now, offyourocker said:

Maybe we trade Knox for Hopkins?

Again, think replacement for McKenzie not replacement for Knox 

[Bangarang]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Stop thinking of him as a TE. Start thinking of him as a Jacked up Slot WR

The point still stands.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

We are an offense that doesn’t use TEs. When Knox got his new contract I said it would be a bargain if his usage increased a lot but it didn’t. Same applies here. Could be a great pick if Dorsey has a plan on how he wants to use him and get him the ball. If we just go through the motions with him like we do a lot of other players then it becomes a head scratcher. 
 

I imagine Dorsey asked for this so hopefully he can get creative with 2 TE sets. 

Kincaid is a lot more versatile than simply labeling him a ‘TE’…he’s a much more gifted pass catcher/route runner than Knox. He could line up in the slot every play and never play ‘true’ tight end and he still provides a lot more value than anyone in that late run on wrs would have.