Special K Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 In one of the million mock drafts out there, (don't remember which website or news outlet it was from) the Mock had the Bills selecting Broderick Jones T Georgia. The writer went on to say that if the Bills go this route and select a LT prospect in round 1, it would allow them to slide Dion Dawkins from LT to LG: "where he would go from being an above average tackle, to being an elite guard." Does anyone agree with line of thinking, and more importantly, does anyone think this scenario could be on the Bills radar? Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Would that make Dawkins over paid as aguard? Edited March 10, 2023 by Mike in Horseheads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Yes 100%. Would be a mean guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 He’s a good LT, doubt he would want to make the switch. He would probably force his way out because of $$$$$$. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Would that make Dawkins over paid as aguard? Not really if his play was close to elite. I think the top guys are getting 14 or 15 M per year. So I just checked there are 7 guards north of 14 M with Quinten Nelson tops at 20M per year. So as long as Dawkins is a top 10 G ( very possible imo) his contract is fine. Edited March 10, 2023 by TheBeaneBandit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Not really if his play was close to elite. I think the top guys are getting 14 or 15 M per year. So I just checked there are 7 guards north of 14 M with Quinten Nelson tops at 20M per year. So as long as Dawkins is a top 10 G ( very possible imo) his contract is fine. I don't have a problem with his contract nor moving him to LG. If Jones were to fall to us it would make for an interesting decision by Beane. The idea if Dion moving to LG has been kicked around before. Saffold is out the door and Spencer playing RT terrifies me. This is the long overdue season we go crazy on OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 What about him makes him a better G than T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Could Dion Dawkins lift some weights and get in shape? More news soon 7 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 We don’t need to replace him. A lot has to happen before moving Dawkins. It’s a lot easier to just draft an OG or sign one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's going to be fun this time! Imagine a rabid Bills mafia through the FA and draft this year! Only to use 2 of the 1st 3 picks on defense. Edited March 10, 2023 by Gunsgoodtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 There isn't a left tackle on the market as good as Dawkins that the Bills could afford. There's no left tackle in the draft that would be as good as Dawkins in the draft where the Bills pick. Left tackle is more important than guard. Find a guard in free agency or the draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Hes not quintin Nelson or Zach Martin … not at all He’s better used at left tackle than being a top 10 guard who doesn’t impact the game A top 12 left tackle is invaluable… Especially under 30 hes playing RT before Guard lol Edited March 10, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 It’s not a coincidence that the better the left guard is the better Dockins play is at left tackle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Why would we make him a guard? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Why would we make him a guard? I don’t understand this strategy either. The only time to think about that is if we draft a player and he develops into a better OT. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Buddy Nix o line 101. you get tackles and you can always move them inside 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Yes. I do. I have for a while. I agree totally with the writer and as Dion gets older and struggles more with his weight (he has turned up overweight both the last two seasons) I think LG is where he prolongs his career. You only do it if you can get your hands on an elite left tackle prospect or you can trade for a vet left tackle at least as good as Dion. You don't move him and create a hole there. But it should be an option on the table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 He's just fine right where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Make this craziness stop...... At this pace, next week there will be a thread about moving JA to TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 50 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Make this craziness stop...... At this pace, next week there will be a thread about moving JA to TE. Dawkins is not to LTs what JA is to QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 plenty of tackles have moved inside and improved their relative play level. getting better at OT would improve more than just those positions, so i'm happy to do that. i really hope brown was trash last season because of his messed up back. if he can fix that and get back on track it would be a huge help for the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, artmalibu said: Make this craziness stop...... At this pace, next week there will be a thread about moving JA to TE. Josh has the stuff to be a decent TE. Lol. Start Barkley at QB and just throw slants to Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dion is an OK LT but we can improve here IMO I'd be ok with picking up a LT early in this draft and moving Dion either to RT or LG/RG.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Would that make Dawkins over paid as aguard? doesnt really matter for a year or two atleast if this is 1 move to sure up two spots at once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 For sure, the issue is finding a good to great LT is significantly harder than finding a good to great LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: Josh has the stuff to be a decent TE. Lol. Start Barkley at QB and just throw slants to Josh. Good grief its fun to imagine. Josh is a gosh damb wrecking ball lol his hs coaches should be ashamed for not giving him a few redzone snaps lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 What is with this obsession of moving every good tackle to guard? Every time we get a good tackle in the building, the thought process goes “yes he’s good at tackle, but he’d be a GREAT guard” … we don’t know if he’d be good, we don’t know if he’d be willing to do it, and we DO know he’s an above average starter at one of the most important positions in the league. Im gonna start calling this “drought mentality.” Dont have “drought mentality.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, ngbills said: What about him makes him a better G than T? when he was drafted he was projected to be a top guard but Nix wanted him at tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 He's set to make $11m more in 2023 than Saffold made in 2022. Why would it be a good idea to spend an additional $11m to upgrade the Guard position while creating a hole at LT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Special K said: In one of the million mock drafts out there, (don't remember which website or news outlet it was from) the Mock had the Bills selecting Broderick Jones T Georgia. The writer went on to say that if the Bills go this route and select a LT prospect in round 1, it would allow them to slide Dion Dawkins from LT to LG: "where he would go from being an above average tackle, to being an elite guard." Does anyone agree with line of thinking, and more importantly, does anyone think this scenario could be on the Bills radar? Thoughts? I've heard this talked about on 1 Bills Live too & i think Dion is willing to do what ever the team needs him to do & if they can get a top LT in the draft that would definitely make this a possibility & it would be this way until Dion needs to be resigned so I'd be game for it especially if the LT was or had a elite ceiling . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dion has ZERO interest in moving to guard. Bank it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, BeastMode54 said: when he was drafted he was projected to be a top guard but Nix wanted him at tackle You must be thinking of Cordy Glenn as Nix was not here when we got Dion (though reports did have Dawkins projecting as a good guard) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, davefan66 said: Why would we make him a guard? so the Bengals defenders don’t pants him again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatszel Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I think Dawkins in good where he is. My question would Brown be better moved inside as he get burnt with the speed rush. Would he be capable of moving inside and getting an upgrade in right tackle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, T master said: I've heard this talked about on 1 Bills Live too & i think Dion is willing to do whatever the team needs him to do & if they can get a top LT in the draft that would definitely make this a possibility & it would be this way until Dion needs to be resigned so I'd be game for it especially if the LT was or had a elite ceiling . Next year Dion will be 30 and it is the last year of his contract. His cost probably will be pushing $20M per year or more. A decision will have to be made next year at OBD as to his future. It may be a tough one. IF and it's a big IF, Dion "at that time" says he would be willing to move to G for lower pay there is some merit to this idea. I think it's a year too early to consider any of this, but fans have to realize that these contracts roll over pretty quickly and Beane and company have to factor all this stuff in continuously. FWIW, Milano, Taron Johnson and Morse (if he's still with the team) are all up the same year. I say the last part to offset the "cap always goes up" talk with the reality that the cost of keeping your own also increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: You must be thinking of Cordy Glenn as Nix was not here when we got Dion (though reports did have Dawkins projecting as a good guard) yea you're right. I think I remember hearing Mel Kiper talk about how Dawkins projected as a good guard in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I'm not against the concept of Dawkins someday moving to guard, but it raises a few questions for me: Has Dawkins ever played guard in the NFL, college or high school? Does Dawkins have interest or willingness to play guard? If he moved to guard, who would replace him at LT? If a drafted rookie was to take over at LT, does it make sense to put a rookie there now, with the Bills still in their "window" to win it all (which may be rapidly closing) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Would that make Dawkins over paid as aguard? Not anymore, if you believe he is a top Guard in the league which some believe he would be his salary would fall in line with the top guys at his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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