ngbills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 This is nothing about Cook's potential but what and who is helping us now. I hear how Cook needs more touches, Cook has elite speed, Cook has receiver like ability. I dont see any of that yet. Drops, bad routes, bad reads on runs, slow side to side. The offense seems most efficient when Singletary is getting involved. Lets stop experimenting with Cook if he is not ready for primetime. Go with Singletary and Hines. Singletary had been solid when he is not forgotten by Dorsey. Bring Cook in once we have a big lead. But the on and off the field with these guys seems to create stalls in the O. 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’d like to see some more of Hines. Wasn’t he supposed to add something to our offense? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 It's not even close; Singletary is the guy by a mile The question should be Cook or Hines backing him up. 7 1 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Beast said: I’d like to see some more of Hines. Wasn’t he supposed to add something to our offense? That’s on McDermott. Hines is a polished professional and was ready to go immediately. But McD doesn’t play it that way with noobs on his team. Hines will get there. He’s a great addition to the team. Just watch. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’m really starting to think that Hines is being brought in to be that special teams guy that we didn’t have that returner that could make a difference The way our offense works how in the world do we get enough reps for both Cook and Hines if motor gets the 15 to 18 touches that he should get 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’ve been high on Cook, but man .. he was brutal today in the pass game. Singletary is definitely the reliable one right now. No clue what the plan is with Hines. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) It’s very easy to see why Hines Has not been a big part of the offense… No matter what coach speak is used He now has immense value as our kick returner punt returner number one… Steady with the potential to flip field position instantly Punt returner and kick returner is the most dangerous position in football… We are not trying to double or triple his duties yet He’s going to be a secret weapon in the playoffs… There’s not gonna be a lot of tape on him in the Bills offense because we are limiting him If he gets hurt we lose our starting return specialist and we’re down to two running backs… He’s clearly Not gonna be overused Edited November 25, 2022 by Buffalo716 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I fully expect by the stretch run Motor will retain 80+% of the snaps. Cook gave us some juice last week, but he still needs some coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Singletary. I wish they would find ways to get him more touches in general. Seems he gets going then they completely go away from him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Lol. Cook dropped that pass on the sidelines right in front of McDermott who pulled him and iced him on the bench for rest of the game. Edited November 25, 2022 by freddyjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Hines has proven explosiveness in the pass game from Indy so maybe they might unleash him during the afc east opps run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) They get different play calls…. Cook today got 2 carries. Both Toss Left. I watched Cook for 3 years at Georgia. Georgia ran him between the tackles, Buffalo doesn’t and they need to. He’s a north south runner but Buffalo wants him running outside. Don’t know why. But he needs to be getting 5-6 runs between the tackles, eventually he will burst for 30-40 yds. Put it this way, some of those runs Singletary gets up the middle for 15-20 yards…. Cook has the potential to take those to the house. The Pittsburgh game TD, last week he had a long run up the gut. But you can guarantee he’s getting a Toss Left. 2x this game and I’m pretty sure every game thus far he’s had a Toss left. Try him on a fly sweep!!! Edited November 25, 2022 by CEN-CAL17 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, freddyjj said: Lol. Cool dropped that pass on the sidelines in front of McDermott who pulled him and iced him on the bench for rest of the game. He also almost caused us an interception by stopping his route in the middle of the field. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Now Singletary as Cook still learning. Cook might offer more upside but 5hink Motor doesn't offer as much as a low floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Neither! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JY422 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Not even a close race. Singletary needs to get the Christian McCaffery treatment from a few years back with the Panthers. he doesn’t come off the field unless he needs a breather or is injured. I'm not in any way saying Singletary is close to the back CMac is but he IS the perfect back for Dorsey, Allen and this offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’d like to see Cook break a tackle or two. He gets touched and boom, he’s down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: I’d like to see Cook break a tackle or two. He gets touched and boom, he’s down. I was just going to say the same thing. No power. Lots of foot tackles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Cook just seems like he has big play written all over him. He's a rookie, who hasn't played much, so you're going to get some missed plays and some bad ones, but that's what getting game time experience is for. I would like to see Cook get about 50% of the workload, Singletary 35% and now Hines has been here for almost a month start sprinkling him in some also(15%). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 James Cook’s highlights vs Lions: 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Romo highlighted why Cook hasn't been on the field more he runs to the right josh throws to him then randomly goes back to the left almost cost an interception. Seems like he needs more field awareness Edited November 25, 2022 by Mrbojanglezs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Devin should still be the #1 but Cook has absolutely shown he belongs the past few weeks. I am pro him getting 6-10 carries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Cook had a bad game today. I dont think Dorsey knows how to use any of our 3 RBs to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: That’s on McDermott. Hines is a polished professional and was ready to go immediately. But McD doesn’t play it that way with noobs on his team. Hines will get there. He’s a great addition to the team. Just watch. How is not utilizing Hines on McDermott? I feel that offensive personnel/utilization should be on the OC 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Cook had a bad game today. I dont think Dorsey knows how to use any of our 3 RBs to be honest. There’s no excuse why he can’t figure out how to use all 3 better 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Physically James Cook is your prototypical big play RB. Mentally otoh I don’t think things are clicking for him and the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Singletary clearly is the better back atm. It's not even close. Cook needs more experience, and hopefully will continue to improve. Singletary is consistent. Cook isn't. We are coming to the business end of the season, and you need consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Cook definitely has that explosiveness we all have seen and talked about, and I have high hopes that one day he becomes our featured back, but I agree with you that right now Singletary NEEDS to be the guy. As much as I campaigned to give Cook more opportunities, he needs more time to develop and learn the offense, as well as work on his blocking as well as ball security, etc. That drop today was rough, and he didnt help his cause doing it right in front of McD. Also, with all of the injuries we've had to endure, my guess is every game here on out is gonna be a dogfight, and we no longer have the luxury of experimenting with anyone. All Singletary has been is consistent, and even though he doesn't have the speed that Cook does, he is running the ball very well right now IMO. He has good burst through the line, and like others have mentioned, the more touches he gets throughout the game, the better he performs. Unfortunately, because we've been in so many close games lately, we haven't had the luxury of sticking with the run a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Re Cook, I have never seen a RB make a check Down look so hard. By the way, t-minus 20 years and counting for the Bills’ last successful RB screen. The one today to Cook was a dumpster fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Singletary is clearly our best back. Cook is a work in progress. I think with an off season working on lower body strength, he will be better and able to break those ankle tackles that bring him down now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Singletary has been running well imo. Cook has plenty of potential he looks like a back who can get to the corner, something we have not had in a while. Lets hope he learns and improves each game, he could he a valuable weapon when the playoffs begin. Any plays they design for him we likely work for Hines too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Devin should still be the #1 but Cook has absolutely shown he belongs the past few weeks. I am pro him getting 6-10 carries. He really hasn't done that much. The couple weeks prior to the Cleveland game he was only picking up 30-40 all purpose yards, despite getting quite a few touches. He racked up a bunch of yardage vs Cleveland, but he was just running through massive gaping holes and didn't really show all that much while doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Singletary is holding this offense back in a big way. Bottom tier athleticism, under sized, gets what he's given nothing more and sometimes less. No big play ability, his running style is not made for the NFL coming to a screeching halt to dance and juke just to get tackled from behind. Cook is a superior athlete, is not debatable its a tangible fact. Watching him run vs the Browns and Singletary is just eye opening how much more explosive he is, dude will be a big play machine if he gets playing time. Singletary is a drought era player which is why so many like him. Low athleticism, undersized, but high effort and an endearing personality. He's Coy Wire at running back. Singletary has no place on an explosive offense. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Cook is a great athlete, yet a sun-par RB. Singletary is a battle-tested, quality pro. There is no question who should be getting the majority of the work load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Would be nice if they were dominating games like at the start of the season … they could give Cook a bit more garbage time … he still looks a little under done .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Motor, and it ain't close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Singletary is holding this offense back in a big way. Bottom tier athleticism, under sized, gets what he's given nothing more and sometimes less. No big play ability, his running style is not made for the NFL coming to a screeching halt to dance and juke just to get tackled from behind. Cook is a superior athlete, is not debatable its a tangible fact. Watching him run vs the Browns and Singletary is just eye opening how much more explosive he is, dude will be a big play machine if he gets playing time. Singletary is a drought era player which is why so many like him. Low athleticism, undersized, but high effort and an endearing personality. He's Coy Wire at running back. Singletary has no place on an explosive offense. Cook’s athleticism is great. And what’s that do for you if you can’t read blocks, break tackles or catch the football? Because he doesn’t have track speed, he is has low athleticism? Sure. Ignore balance, agility, lean, leverage and everything else that makes him a tremendous and reliable asset in the run game. Do you like baseball? Here is a reference for you: If you build a team to hit home runs, you better be prepared to deal with strikeouts. This is James Cook, and 100% why Singletary needs to be out “get on base” lead runner. He has a fantastic first cut and ability to make people miss. He rarely goes down on first contact, and always falls forward with his low center of gravity and leg churn. Our home run hitter is Allen and the passing offense. Our running game is built to be a reliable and sustainable complimentary piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Simon said: He really hasn't done that much. The couple weeks prior to the Cleveland game he was only picking up 30-40 all purpose yards, despite getting quite a few touches. He racked up a bunch of yardage vs Cleveland, but he was just running through massive gaping holes and didn't really show all that much while doing it. What is your definition of quite a few touches? Except for week 2 and last week, Cook has never touched the ball more than 6 times in a game. He averages 25% more yards per rush and 40% more yards per catch than Singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, ngbills said: This is nothing about Cook's potential but what and who is helping us now. I hear how Cook needs more touches, Cook has elite speed, Cook has receiver like ability. I dont see any of that yet. Drops, bad routes, bad reads on runs, slow side to side. The offense seems most efficient when Singletary is getting involved. Lets stop experimenting with Cook if he is not ready for primetime. Go with Singletary and Hines. Singletary had been solid when he is not forgotten by Dorsey. Bring Cook in once we have a big lead. But the on and off the field with these guys seems to create stalls in the O. Cook quit on one pass route and turned back,Josh threw to where he thought Cook was headed,almost got picked off. THAT bothered me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Cook’s athleticism is great. And what’s that do for you if you can’t read blocks, break tackles or catch the football? Because he doesn’t have track speed, he is has low athleticism? Sure. Ignore balance, agility, lean, leverage and everything else that makes him a tremendous and reliable asset in the run game. Do you like baseball? Here is a reference for you: If you build a team to hit home runs, you better be prepared to deal with strikeouts. This is James Cook, and 100% why Singletary needs to be out “get on base” lead runner. He has a fantastic first cut and ability to make people miss. He rarely goes down on first contact, and always falls forward with his low center of gravity and leg churn. Our home run hitter is Allen and the passing offense. Our running game is built to be a reliable and sustainable complimentary piece. Absolute nonsense that Cook can't read blocks. Utter nonsense and competely unsubstantiated. Singletary has low athleticism because he's a bottom percentile athlete and the slowest starting RB in the league. The baseball analogy for Singletary would be Brock Holt, unathletic try hard slap hitter that fans love. I wouldn't mind him as a backup but he brings nothing as a starter to an explosive offense. There is so much opportunity at the RB position for this Offense and it is being pissed away. Your description of Singletary as a runner is fantasy land, no offense. By your description he would be a 1500 yard back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Absolute nonsense that Cook can't read blocks. Utter nonsense and competely unsubstantiated. Singletary has low athleticism because he's a bottom percentile athlete and the slowest starting RB in the league. The baseball analogy for Singletary would be Brock Holt, unathletic try hard slap hitter that fans love. I wouldn't mind him as a backup but he brings nothing as a starter to an explosive offense. There is so much opportunity at the RB position for this Offense and it is being pissed away. Your description of Singletary as a runner is fantasy land, no offense. By your description he would be a 1500 yard back. We’ll find out next year, no matter what. Simgletary likely won’t be back with this team as a back up, or a starter, due to the financial restraints this team will make. You can post a video that shows Cook making a good cut. There are 100 more for Singletary doing the same. The photo you posted re: Singletary was heavily discussed and questioned the accuracy due to it being a still shot and lack of EZ angle. You can pick and choose videos, photos and statistics all you want to support your claim. When it comes down to it, THIS YEAR, it isn’t even close who is the more reliable and appropriate option for this team to lean on. Again, Singletary has years as a proven rusher, receiver and pass protector. Cool is a pipe dream for the future that I fear Beane reached on. We can disagree, that is fine. I never said he was the truth a RB, or an all pro, or even a pro bowler. But I guarantee you in NFL circles he garners a ton of respect from players and coaches for his abilities and results on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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