Albany,n.y. Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think an admission that your team went through the motions simply to comply with the rules should still come with a penalty; regardless of how one feels about the rule. But if they didn't go through the motions they would have been penalized like the time Matt Millen admitted that Mariucci was his choice before he had to interview minority candidates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think they had differences this year. It was fairly obvious from McDermott’s pressers. Yeah like run the damn ball Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big C said: Oh jeez 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 So when does Frazier file his suit against the Giants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Sounds like the Giants decided they were hiring Daboll before Flores was interviewed, Belichick finds out and texts the wrong Brian to congratulate him... Oops, my bad. I'm almost 70. Should have asked my grandkids how this magic pocket brain works. "So, Brady wants to be the centre of attention?! Here, hold my cell phone. There's one owner and two franchises with egg on their faces." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Flores obviously just committed NFL career suicide. Dolphins also have to be in some pretty big trouble if the tanking report is true, no? I would the NFL frowns upon that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 So much to take in here... Could be the biggest NFL story in a while.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: It's not that they hired Daboll, it's that they had already made the decision to hire Daboll before interviewing Flores. Everyone involved looks bad, and it is messed up that no black coaches are going to get hired in this cycle (with 9 openings.) Right but what I'm saying is Daboll isn't that shocking a guy to get passed over for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Ya hate to see bad publicity for the Dolphins 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 don’t blame Flores for sticking up for himself. the fish were leaking all that garbage about him about how he didn’t talk to staff throughout the season etc. the fish reap what they sow. what a mess of a franchise 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, FLFan said: I thought you promised to quit in that exchange? What he said actually is that the argument you were making is racist. That the Rooney rule is a lot of times a throw away interview and not fan to either party? That's the basis of my argument. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Hardly, blowing off media blowhards in a press conference is one things, being asked specific questions for a long long time by a good lawyer under oath where you are obligated to tell the truth unless you can claim self incrimination, is a totally different game. Blah blah blah. He’s great at saying things while still saying nothing. That’s perfect for a defense attorney. It’s not that easy and it’s why a great defense attorney can win ...often. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Well, that's an issue as well. If true, Flores had all this happen and continued to work for Ross. Collected paychecks and kept it all to himself while happily continuing to coach for the team? Seems like and odd time to grow morals now. His team was still in a playoff race. Not odd at all. Edited February 1, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, H2o said: I mean, everyone can pick a side I guess. But I understand why McDermott was holding Daboll’s feet to the fire. After the mnf “wind” game, he told the media he didn’t know if the offense could be fixed I never liked the daboll hire to begin with. I came around and think he did some awesome things. But he’s by no means perfect. Flawed like McDermott. But both are very good Edited February 1, 2022 by YoloinOhio 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) I'd still take him as DC over Frazier, but that's just me Edited February 1, 2022 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Terrible takes WEO. There will be serious hell to pay if this isn't retracted. This bell can’t be unrung. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Can we Wiki edit the lawsuit to throw in Fraiser being unhappy with McDermott? Maybe we can get him out of here after all 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said: Rooney rule needs to go. Hire on talent and experience. Leave race out of it. Sure. In theory. But look at who gets NFL jobs now? Sons of coaches. How are you supposed to break in that old boys network? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean, everyone can pick a side I guess. But I understand why McDermott was holding Daboll’s feet to the fire. After the mnf “wind” game, he told the media he didn’t know if the offense could be fixed I never liked the daboll hire to begin with. I came around and think he did some awesome things. But he’s by no means perfect. Flawed like McDermott. But both are very good He said something like ‘improving josh Allen took a village’ in a giants interview lol I was excited to pull for him next season but now I’m not so sure 😂 Edited February 1, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Process said: Flores obviously just committed NFL career suicide. Dolphins also have to be in some pretty big trouble if the tanking report is true, no? I would the NFL frowns upon that. He's pulling his 'Kaepernick' move and the timing couldn't be more perfect as today is the beginning of black history month. He'll never coach in the NFL again but is likely going to become a multimillionaire in the process anyway just like Kaepernick did. 1 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: But if they didn't go through the motions they would have been penalized like the time Matt Millen admitted that Mariucci was his choice before he had to interview minority candidates. Exactly. It could be as simple as “ Daboll really wowed everyone in the interview and we think he’s a perfect fit! We still have to interview another candidate to comply x rule” Can’t tell me a decision isn’t already made in 99% of situations. The last interviewed isn’t necessarily getting the job. The league rule said they had to do one more , so they did. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: He said something like ‘improving josh Allen took a village’ in a giants interview lol I was excited to pull for him next season but now I’m not so sure 😂 To be fair that was him not taking all the credit for it and emphasizing that the organization needs to be competent as a whole. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillyG Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: His team was still in a playoff race. Not odd at all. This extends back to allegedly attempting to bribe him for tanking for Tua and his interview with Denver prior to Fangio being hired. Yes, very odd to sit on all this and grow morals only when it suits you, if true. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: To be fair that was him not taking all the credit for it and emphasizing that the organization needs to be competent as a whole. I’m glad to hear that I’m back on board 😂 those one sentence quotes with no context are dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, Big C said: Oh jeez (Warning - speculation ahead) If true, it is entirely likely that McD leaned on Daboll around the Bucs game to change the play calls to a more balanced approach. If Daboll didnt like that, then I say him leaving is for the betterment of the O going forward. Clearly the O was more balanced and dangerous towards the end of the season and into the playoffs. Something changed and it must be McD forcing Daboll to curb his natural proclivities. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Process said: Flores obviously just committed NFL career suicide. Dolphins also have to be in some pretty big trouble if the tanking report is true, no? I would the NFL frowns upon that. He knows: 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Oh boy, that was one short honeymoon for Joe Schoen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: To me, the biggest bombshell is the payments offered by the owner for losses. If there is hard proof of that, mushroom cloud in Miami I agree, of course the scam interview process , "Rooney Rule" etc. will be investigated , but to offer money to alter outcomes of games? Thats huge IMHO.. we all question officiating , impact of gambling , but if you have tangible proof.. wheew . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Exactly. It could be as simple as “ Daboll really wowed everyone in the interview and we think he’s a perfect fit! We still have to interview another candidate to comply x rule” Can’t tell me a decision isn’t already made in 99% of situations. The last interviewed isn’t necessarily getting the job. The league rule said they had to do one more , so they did. Yea could be belichick wording a text poorly more than some kind of foul play…not sure anything could come of this. The tanking allegation could def cause some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: There’s a text from Belichick in the affidavit. There’s definitely racism in hiring. I don’t think Flores is the best example though. Leslie Frazier or Eric Bienemey would be better examples 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Those texts from belichick holy ***** how do you get that wrong! I was so excited and my mind went so many places when I first saw "texts from Belichick" attached to a scandal - then I was disappointed Edited February 1, 2022 by stevewin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 This is dumb. Rooney rule is dumb. Is anyone shocked that a super hot OC would be a hot name with Schoen just hired?!?! Theyre familiar and brings a sense of continuity. It's no different than Beane bringing in several Panthers, or Beane following McD here. How often do we say continuity around this league? Schoen and Daboll have probabky been discussing something like this over a year already. When you know, you know! NFL forced them to do Rooney rule anyways. They made us Rooney Rule for an obvious internal coaching promotion. This is wanting your cake and eating it too. Cant cry racism on both ends. Put the rule up for votes to every POC in front offices, and be done with it. "No good deed goes unpunished." Ridiculous. Blacklisted, and won't see a dime over this dumb shiz. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: This extends back to allegedly attempting to bribe him for tanking for Tua and his interview with Denver prior to Fangio being hired. Yes, very odd to sit on all this and grow morals only when it suits you, if true. I'm sure that all of this is nothing new. As someone mentioned above, Frazer interviewed with the NYG after Daboll too. But because Flores realized that he's not getting another HC job because of all the stuff that Ross and the Dolphins' GM is spreading around the league about him being difficult to work with, he decided to torch all the bridges to get one final NFL payday before going to college. That's my speculation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Well ? Was his handwriting... or wasn’t it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: He said something like ‘improving josh Allen took a village’ in a giants interview lol I was excited to pull for him next season but now I’m not so sure 😂 Interesting. Im in this camp: JA is a unicorn. 5 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m glad to hear that I’m back on board 😂 those one sentence quotes with no context are dangerous. Honestly the most confusing thing with this whole he wanted to get away from McDermott idea is that he sounded a whole lot like him in his press conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Sure. In theory. But look at who gets NFL jobs now? Sons of coaches. How are you supposed to break in that old boys network? That's already happening even with the Rooney rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, K-9 said: That’s an interesting point. If the story about Ross is true, it was smart of Flores to refuse to attend that meeting with the QB on Ross’s yacht. I wonder who that QB was. no kidding! i'll give flores a ton of credit if this is the case. he had integrity on a team that apparently has none. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: It's not that they hired Daboll, it's that they had already made the decision to hire Daboll before interviewing Flores. Why does that make them bad? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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