LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Whatever we do in the offseason both in the draft and FA, it has to be done with the thinking of will it help us beat KC in the playoffs. That means we may take our lumps in the regular season against big physical teams who run the ball. But we clearly need to add more speed and a playmaker or two on defense to beat Mahomes in the playoffs. Having Tre would've been huge last night. On offense I don't think we need too much, maybe an interior OL and a WR with Sanders and possibly Beasley or McKenzie leaving. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean needs to stop targeting positions. It failed last two years with zero impact DE's on the roster. We need an impact player that can change the game at a meaningful time in the front 7. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you targeting a position? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 CB, DL, Big Nickel, TE, C/G, WR, RB, P- Lets get Josh some new toys, and fix pass rush and defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Trevor Penning, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa. Andrew Booth, Cornerback, Clemson Chris Olave, Wide Receiver, Ohio State I'm good with any of those. What’s the story on Olave? He doesn’t appear to have stats worthy of going in the first round but that seems to be where he is ranked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think it is possible if people over draft those quarterbacks like they always do. If GMs use their brains, there is no chance. If they overdraft crap quarterbacks, that will push talent down the board. But if I were a betting man, I think he goes to the Eagles with one of those three!! picks in that 10-20 range 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: What’s the story on Olave? He doesn’t appear to have stats worthy of going in the first round but that seems to be where he is ranked. So I'm not sure if he is a true #1 grade but at pick 25 you ain't getting a true #1 grade guy, they are likely to be gone. If I am picking from that next tier give me a receiver who can fly. If he runs in the 4.3s as some expect then I'm on board. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: In order to get to Mahomes, first you have to beat other teams. Focus all your energy into beating one team and 30 others can pass you by. We have the Mahomes beater on the team already. His name is Allen. They just need to let him do his thing the WHOLE game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: So I'm not sure if he is a true #1 grade but at pick 25 you ain't getting a true #1 grade guy, they are likely to be gone. If I am picking from that next tier give me a receiver who can fly. If he runs in the 4.3s as some expect then I'm on board. Yeah we need speed. Jahan Dotson from PSU is another intriguing option that could fall into that slot. I’d love either him or Olave. Just now, Buffalo Boy said: We have the Mahomes beater on the team already. His name is Allen. They just need to let him do his thing the WHOLE game. It was brutal that one series where we got the ball almost in KC territory and we handed off to Singletary 3 straight times. That’s not what got us there and they took the ball out of 17s hands. Inexcusable. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The thing about it is all of the top AFC teams are all kind of the same. If your aiming to beat the Chiefs, the same recipe is going to apply to the Chargers and Bengals as well. The only physical team that seems to have our number in the AFC is Indy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Speed, speed, and more speed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: It was brutal that one series where we got the ball almost in KC territory and we handed off to Singletary 3 straight times. That’s not what got us there and they took the ball out of 17s hands. Inexcusable. i think it was worse than that.... I think it was flat route to Reggie Gilliam, Singletary run, Singletary run and on the 3rd down run he got knocked back so that 4th down wasn't even a consideration. Brutal. 3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: The thing about it is all of the top AFC teams are all kind of the same. If your aiming to beat the Chiefs, the same recipe is going to apply to the Chargers and Bengals as well. The only physical team that seems to have our number in the AFC is Indy And the Titans. It is like the AFC South is zigging while the rest of the AFC is zagging. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: i think it was worse than that.... I think it was flat route to Reggie Gilliam, Singletary run, Singletary run and on the 3rd down run he got knocked back so that 4th down wasn't even a consideration. Brutal. Yes. Good point. Those 2 series were awful. Just make no sense whatsoever. I know the run game came a long way, but they almost expected that to continue even though it was evident early on that this was gonna have to be the Josh Allen show. Two wasted series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Who? Asking the tough questions! No one in mind yet, but players become available during the off-season. I need to do more research on scheme fit. I would think we could make a deal with a team that has cap issues/is rebuilding, a player whose contract is up after next season, or both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Asking the tough questions! No one in mind yet, but players become available during the off-season. I need to do more research on scheme fit. I would think we could make a deal with a team that has cap issues/is rebuilding, a player whose contract is up after next season, or both. The list of premier pass rushers is a small one and those guys rarely become available. And when they do it’s not cheap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: .....to trade up a bit if Jordan Davis is there at 20ish. Also, the Chiefs quietly ran for over 180 yards last night. CEH gashed that line in almost every touch ripping off hige chunks. Run defense is still something to improve. it was a gimme with the scheme. Played scared of the big play all night instead of attacking. And still got gashed for big plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Don’t care. This team is capable of winning a Super Bowl now. Draft is way down this list of importance. I know after 15-20 years it’s a tough habit to snap but all that matters is coaching staff and FA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Chris olave slot wr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: The list of premier pass rushers is a small one and those guys rarely become available. And when they do it’s not cheap. It is, but still gotta try. Mack, Ingram, & Ngakoue were all traded recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Don’t care. This team is capable of winning a Super Bowl now. Draft is way down this list of importance. I know after 15-20 years it’s a tough habit to snap but all that matters is coaching staff and FA. lol wut? The draft is where you find premier talent for cheap. it matters very much. missing on a first rd pick is still terrible for this team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: .....to trade up a bit if Jordan Davis is there at 20ish. Also, the Chiefs quietly ran for over 180 yards last night. CEH gashed that line in almost every touch ripping off hige chunks. Run defense is still something to improve. You're not wrong, but as long as Kelce, Hill and Mahomes is there the Bills will always give up rushing yards to keep the pass game under wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Southern_Bills said: You're not wrong, but as long as Kelce, Hill and Mahomes is there the Bills will always give up rushing yards to keep the pass game under wraps. Jordan Davis isn't going to get you over the hump against he Chiefs. We need to build on our greatest strength--Josh Allen. He's the multiplier effect that will give you the greatest possible return on any offensive weapon that you add. Sure, add some speed on defense too, but give Josh the weapons to maximize his incredible talent. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: In order to get to Mahomes, first you have to beat other teams. Focus all your energy into beating one team and 30 others can pass you by. So you want to use a 1st round pick on a run defender at a position of high bust rate that gives you 40%-45% of the snaps? Try to remember that job #1 in the NFL is to support your QB...........other than actually getting Josh Allen.........4 of the other 5 #1 picks have been expended on defense. Last I checked the Chiefs finished with a better record than Buffalo and had a bad run defense and are about to advance to their 3rd straight Super Bowl...........so a #1 overall ranked defense like the Bills should probably be enough to "beat other teams". The Bills are not gifted on offense..........Josh Allen has put a lot of hard miles on his body to make it look that way............it's time to change that. The story of this season isn't not being able to stop the run...........it can be summed up by scoring only 9 points in a game in Jacksonville..........on a day when your QB desperately needed a playmaker to pick him up........there weren't any to be found. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: lol wut? The draft is where you find premier talent for cheap. it matters very much. missing on a first rd pick is still terrible for this team. Not meaningless for sure but it’s down the list for this team. They’ll get a talented player but their window is open now. The coaching changes and FA decisions will do more to determine their SB fate next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It's time to go all in on the offense. The O puts up numbers, but it's because we have the best player in the league at QB carrying this team. We need 1-2 WRs, starting RB, #2 TE, and SPEED. If Morse leaves then a C too. Josh can't do it all forever. I want a speedy WR with our first or second pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Greybeard said: From your statement, I assume you were also watching Star in the 4th quarter. Yeah 5 years $50M for a 45% snap guy who made no plays but would "magically" make the defense much better was a big enough mistake. The only time he played anywhere close to what he was getting paid was the brief point early in this season where he was fit and healthy and could rush the passer. So they got like 2 good games for over $40M expended. They need to be able to find a serviceable 1 tech cheap to back up Phillips.........who they really need to re-sign. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Free Agency comes first, get back to me later, like one day before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Daniel Jeremiah has the Bills selecting Kyler Gordon https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/kyler-gordon That makes a lot of sense because Wallace is a UFA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: So you want to use a 1st round pick on a run defender at a position of high bust rate that gives you 40%-45% of the snaps? Try to remember that job #1 in the NFL is to support your QB...........other than actually getting Josh Allen.........4 of the other 5 #1 picks have been expended on defense. Last I checked the Chiefs finished with a better record than Buffalo and had a bad run defense and are about to advance to their 3rd straight Super Bowl...........so a #1 overall ranked defense like the Bills should probably be enough to "beat other teams". The Bills are not gifted on offense..........Josh Allen has put a lot of hard miles on his body to make it look that way............it's time to change that. The story of this season isn't not being able to stop the run...........it can be summed up by scoring only 9 points in a game in Jacksonville..........on a day when your QB desperately needed a playmaker to pick him up........there weren't any to be found. You do realize there is this whole thing called Free Agency as well, right? Also trades happen. If the "story of the season" was the Jags game...if you really wants to single it down to 1 game...could just as easily be a game where the Bills got thrashed in the run at home against a team that ultimately missed the playoffs as well(Colts). Or the game against the Patriots where they win by running...agaim at home....or Titans where the opponent ran all over Buffalo for the W. Hmm...sense a theme in all those losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Buffalo Bills: Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson The Bills have the best pass defense in the NFL, but there's something to be said about bolstering a strength, especially when the goal each year is to beat Patrick Mahomes. Andrew Booth Jr. is coming off an impressive 2020 campaign. There will be more focus on him with Derion Kendrick being expelled from the team. https://walterfootball.com/draft2022_1.php 27. Buffalo Bills: Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida The Bills could stand to strengthen their cornerback corps. Tre White will be coming off a serious injury, and they could use another outside corner to go with him. In 2021, Elam recorded 29 tackles, five passes broken up and an interception. He played well in 2020, recording 39 tackles, two interceptions and 11 passes broken up. The 6-foot-1, 187-pounder was fantastic as a freshman, flashing serious ball skills even though he had a part-time role. Elam has good height and length with quickness. He could stand to fill out his frame, but considering he is only a true junior, he has the time to do it. With his skill set and upside, he could explode. https://walterfootball.com/draft2022charlie_1.php Edited January 24, 2022 by ALF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Process said: It's time to go all in on the offense. The O puts up numbers, but it's because we have the best player in the league at QB carrying this team. We need 1-2 WRs, starting RB, #2 TE, and SPEED. If Morse leaves then a C too. Josh can't do it all forever. I want a speedy WR with our first or second pick. They have a starting RB. The Bills OC just needs to use him regularly. They are going need a CB, DT, O-line depth and a 2nd TE before they need a RB 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Ben said: Nakobe Dean linebacker Georgia. No way he lasts anywhere close to #25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 the weakest starters on the field yesterday were both corners (wallace & jackson) so i would say in order: corner O line guessing D front 7 will be addressed in F/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Jameson Williams if he falls. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: So you want to use a 1st round pick on a run defender at a position of high bust rate that gives you 40%-45% of the snaps? Try to remember that job #1 in the NFL is to support your QB...........other than actually getting Josh Allen.........4 of the other 5 #1 picks have been expended on defense. Last I checked the Chiefs finished with a better record than Buffalo and had a bad run defense and are about to advance to their 3rd straight Super Bowl...........so a #1 overall ranked defense like the Bills should probably be enough to "beat other teams". The Bills are not gifted on offense..........Josh Allen has put a lot of hard miles on his body to make it look that way............it's time to change that. The story of this season isn't not being able to stop the run...........it can be summed up by scoring only 9 points in a game in Jacksonville..........on a day when your QB desperately needed a playmaker to pick him up........there weren't any to be found. Agreed. It's time to invest in the Offense. Yea, Josh is unstoppable when he throws for 300+, scrambles around extending plays and runs for 75 yards. That is not sustainable. We have to build a team that is not revolving around Josh Allen being a Patrick Mahomes/Lamar Jackson hybrid. That's fine in the Playoffs, but not in the regular season. Upgrade the OL with a premium pick at IOL. Upgrade WR3. Get some legit speed on Offense. The groundwork for the Defense was laid last year... it's enough, time for the young guys to grow up. I'm ok with CB in the 1st, but that's the only defensive position I can really tolerate at this point. Edited January 24, 2022 by SCBills 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Yes get more offense, then instruct Josh when he scores the go ahead points it must be with sub 10 seconds left. That should be easy to implement. Some brain dead people on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Knowing McDermott---I'd say a defensive tackle! 🤣 What am I hoping for? An outstanding, dominant, offensive lineman. Maybe a center to replace Morse who will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 We'll see about the names in the coming months... But right now I think the odds favor O-Line and speed at WR... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 A WR with blazing speed please in round 1 is where I'm at currently. What does that landscape look like for the 2022 class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said: We'll see about the names in the coming months... But right now I think the odds favor O-Line and speed at WR... Agree, but there will be some other holes, on DL, Obada, Phillips, Butler, Hughes and Addison are FA's. Gotta see how Free Agency falls out. If you can find a Debo Samuel-ish guy that would be awesome in this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I was going to start a separate thread with a slightly different take but I'll go with it here. It seems to me that draft preference has changed significantly in the last eight weeks. Eight weeks ago, I would have been all-in on interior OL, either first or second round or both. With the way the OL performed last six weeks, not sure that's true any more. Dawkins (who was terrific last month) coming back healthy, Bates (who I believe needs to be re-signed), Morse (assuming he doesn't retire or is a cap casualty), Williams and Brown (who I think can be an All Pro in a couple of years although Ingram abused him in the fourth quarter last night) are solid. Add Tommy Doyle as swing tackle and Feliciano as backup IOL and I don't think we necessarily go IOL early - maybe a mid round pick. RB - many folks were crying out for an early RB pick eight weeks ago. With Singletary's play down the stretch, I don't think that's an overwhelming need. Maybe a veteran FA RB to provide some depth. DL - I don't see how you invest more draft capital in the DL. I assume both Hughes and Addison are gone. You've got to let the three kids play next year and hope they develop. Maybe get a veteran FA pass rush specialist. It's not going to happen but how about a homecoming for Kalil Mack on a short term deal? LB - Let Edmunds play out his contract. Find a good run stuffing LB in the middle rounds and give the D some versatility. When playing run heavy teams, play a traditional 4-3 with Edmunds outside and let's see if he can create some havoc playing for a new contract. CB - I wouldn't have said it eight weeks ago and maybe it's some recency bias but I'm all in favor of drafting a CB #1. Let Wallace walk, sign a mid level veteran, and hope White comes back mid season in decent form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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