With the 25th Pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select...

[Billznut]

31 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I have no problem the with the Bills targeting a replacement for Wallace. Hopefully someone with speed. I think FA will boil down to Scherff or a tier2 pass rusher. It's doubtful Tre is ready week 1?

Considering Tre went down on Thanksgiving, I doubt he will be back before mid season. And even then it’s doubtful he will be 100% and in football shape. We need another stud CB regardless if we resign Wallace. 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Billznut

[SACTOBILLSFAN]

11 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No......Eh.......I watched him plenty and in particular he got worn down FAST in the first matchup with Alabama..........more snaps was only going to lead to diminishing returns statistically.        

 

Now if he were a natural pass rushing prospect in addition to being a fat load..........then I would consider risking giving a very overweight player at a position with a very high bust rate a $7M signing bonus..........but he's not that kind of player.    

Ah yes cherry pick one (1) game and draw conclusions. I bet you were well aware that the word is he played that game despite being Covid positive right? Did you watch the next game against Michigan and the Bama rematch? Totally different dude. I doubt you “watched him plenty” by any stretch of the imagination. 

[Bill from NYC]

14 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Two of the fastest........Jameson Williams and John Metchie..........tore ACL's in the Alabama postseason.

 

They are expected to make full recoveries.........but after the injuries they both might be available at #25 when the Bills pick.

 

The question mark is how much they could contribute next season coming off those injuries...........it's a long season so if you can get one back at full speed in November you still could have 8-9 games left to utilize them.    Complicated decision.

 

Then there are a number of others who are likely late first-early 2nd rounders who aren't injured but probably not quite explosive.

 

In general it's a very good WR class again but the players with special speed as well as other early round skills will likely be gone at some point in round 2.

Williams is much faster than Metchie. It isn't close. Metchie however is a more polished receiver, but is more than a full step slower.  

 

Williams has Henry Ruggs type speed. On the Bills, Williams could run fly patters and Josh could hit him with strikes 60 yards downfield.  I don't want to give out the wrong impression.....Williams is VERY good, but he is not the best receiver to come out of Alabama in recent years. That would be a tall order but there were times when I saw him catch a pass in coverage and if he had any room, I knew that he was gone for a TD.  He IS a truly exciting player.

[Coach Tuesday]

39 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Williams is much faster than Metchie. It isn't close. Metchie however is a more polished receiver, but is more than a full step slower.  

 

Williams has Henry Ruggs type speed. On the Bills, Williams could run fly patters and Josh could hit him with strikes 60 yards downfield.  I don't want to give out the wrong impression.....Williams is VERY good, but he is not the best receiver to come out of Alabama in recent years. That would be a tall order but there were times when I saw him catch a pass in coverage and if he had any room, I knew that he was gone for a TD.  He IS a truly exciting player.

Didn’t I also see Williams returning punts and covering punt returns as a gunner?  He would have played some on defense, too, if the coaches had let him.  I’d love to land that kind of all-around sparkplug.

[YoloinOhio]

I’m down to trade it, Rams style. But for whom…. Need to look at teams overhauling schemes. 
 

also - sign Chandler Jones in FA. 

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Didn’t I also see Williams returning punts and covering punt returns as a gunner?  He would have played some on defense, too, if the coaches had let him.  I’d love to land that kind of all-around sparkplug.

Coach he is pure speed. If a DB bites on one of his fakes even for a fraction of a second he is GONE. Because he is taller than Ruggs or Waddle (two other speedsters), he has very long strides. Remember the jokes about putting Spiller is "space?" 😀 If defensive backs were not playing WAY back this kid was freaking by them with no chance of being caught.

 

I don't claim to be an expert like Badol and Gunner, but I have watched every play that Metchie and Williams were involved in while they played at Alabama, to even include Metchie's "A" Game (inter squad game in April) as a freshman. In a couple of months I will post my yearly review of every draft eligible Alabama player. There will not be as many stars as there were in the 2021 draft and most of those guys kicked ass in the NFL.

 

Count me as one who doesn't think that this draft is even almost as good as the one last year but this is jmo.

[Pete]

WR Jameson Williams at 25

RB Breece Hall at 57

sign Chandler Jones

 

extra 3rd for Frazier leaving good possibility-lots of picks for CB, S, OL, TE, NT, P, WR, EDGE

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[CapeBreton]

Any return specialists out there that we can draft late? I thought Marquez Stevenson was going to be a steal for us but he looked awful in his limited return usage. 

[CNYfan]

Punter with one of the late round picks.

[BADOLBILZ]

9 hours ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said:

Ah yes cherry pick one (1) game and draw conclusions. I bet you were well aware that the word is he played that game despite being Covid positive right? Did you watch the next game against Michigan and the Bama rematch? Totally different dude. I doubt you “watched him plenty” by any stretch of the imagination. 

 

 

I have this argument with people like you every offseason........those who are obsessed with using high picks on low dollar positions.

 

I am an actual college football fan.........not just someone who tunes in to see a player who might fit with the Bills........I've seen PLENTY of him in his 4 years at Georgia. 

 

He's a nice player but a rotational guy who doesn't impact the passing game.........he HAS NOT been a dynamic player in any of his 4 years at Georgia.

 

But he'd be a good value in round 3 where addressing both sides of the running game starts to make sense...........and where he would still have ample motivation to get-and-stay in shape and get better at his game because he wouldn't be as likely to get fat and happy with a $7M signing bonus like pick #25 might.

 

If you want him.........wait a few years..........and maybe pick him up on waivers just like the Bills did with 340 pound former Dolphins second rounder Jordan Phillips.   Get him right before his contract is expiring and then reap the benefits of him playing for a big pay day.

 

Even the great Ted Washington was initially a bust in SF as a first round pick.     Keeping fat guys on point at a hustle position like DT ain't easy.

[FarrellsFinest]

1st Round. Fastest WR avail. 2nd Round. Fastest DB avail. 3rd Best run stuffing NT out there

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 hours ago, CapeBreton said:

Any return specialists out there that we can draft late? I thought Marquez Stevenson was going to be a steal for us but he looked awful in his limited return usage. 

Britain Covey.🤔

[Coach Tuesday]

Goal for the offseason should be to add SPEED and AGGRESSION on both sides of the ball.  Period.

 

(And maybe fire the ST coordinator.)

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Goal for the offseason should be to add SPEED and AGGRESSION on both sides of the ball.  Period.

 

(And maybe fire the ST coordinator.)

 

 

It's a decent draft for mean OL and there are plenty of fast, quality receiving prospects........which IMO aligns nicely with their long term needs........protect and serve Josh Allen and do it in ways that will save the team cap room in the long term.

 

Defensively, they probably should plan on spending some money and becoming more adaptable to different opponents.

[ArtVandalay]

An undersized player that isn't very athletic with a high motor and lunch pail.

[TheFunPolice]

"I'm sorry guys, there appears to be some sort of seismic tremor, or earthquake going on here..."

 

(sigh of relief) "Nevermind, that's just the new Bills DT (fill in name of enormous angry man here)" 

 

I want a huge, mean spirited, ultra competitive DT. Preferably one who can't stand Brady.

 

Why Brady? Makes the next part easier. Make him watch Man in the Arena episodes prior to big games. 

Edited January 25, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[Mark Vader]

21 hours ago, whorlnut said:

This. This. This!!!

 

We need to stop looking at these types of games as the need to draft more defense. It’s a joke. Allen is our greatest strength and we need to support our greatest strength. If this defense doesn’t have all it needs after all the top picks poured into it, then someone else should be making the picks. 
 

Allen is the only first round pick on offense in the McD era (unless you wanna include the Diggs trade). It’s so lopsided it’s not even funny. What do teams do when they draft qbs?  They get him weapons. What did we do in 2018?  We traded up for an underachieving linebacker and followed that up with two more defensive players. I don’t know…I just feel Allen deserves the type of talent around him that guys like burrow, Dak, and Justin Herbert have. We owe him that…especially after last night. 

You're making this sound far more simple than it really is.

 

In 2018, our two biggest needs going into that draft were QB & LB. The Bills made the moves and got the players they wanted to fill those positions. Now one pick has worked out much better than the other, but at the time both picks made sense. 

Also, those two other defensive players turned out to be Harrison Phillips and Taron Johnson.

 

Then in later years the Bills drafted Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins, & Spencer Brown.

 

I understand that not all of these players have worked out, but a good amount of them have, and it shows that the Bills do address the offense in the draft.

 

Taking a more heavy offensive approach in how we draft, might be the way to go, but it's not as if the Bills are completely neglecting Josh Allen.

[Special K]

25. Trevor Penning T/G Northern Iowa

63. Kyren Williams RB Notre Dame

89. John Metchie III WR Alabama or Cade Otton TE Washington

[whorlnut]

7 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

You're making this sound far more simple than it really is.

 

In 2018, our two biggest needs going into that draft were QB & LB. The Bills made the moves and got the players they wanted to fill those positions. Now one pick has worked out much better than the other, but at the time both picks made sense. 

Also, those two other defensive players turned out to be Harrison Phillips and Taron Johnson.

 

Then in later years the Bills drafted Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins, & Spencer Brown.

 

I understand that not all of these players have worked out, but a good amount of them have, and it shows that the Bills do address the offense in the draft.

 

Taking a more heavy offensive approach in how we draft, might be the way to go, but it's not as if the Bills are completely neglecting Josh Allen.

You conveniently left out all the first and second round picks on defense. That’s my point. You literally just supported my argument by naming all those picks on offense. We spent one pick on an offensive player before the third round…unless you want to count the first (and multiple others) for Diggs. Meanwhile, we seem to load up on first and second round talent on defense. 

[mannc]

On 1/24/2022 at 11:42 AM, Buffalo Boy said:

    JOSH picked up the whole O (again) and put them on his shoulders and carried them. No Josh= No Magic.

    He can’t take that kind of pounding forever and i would say , much longer. He is our investment and we need to protect him by creating a better line in front of him and a better running game  around him (that doesn’t include him to Tre extent it currently does.

    The way you beat the Chiefs is you OUTSCORE them. You don’t slow them down.

Yep, and no one we draft this year at 25 (or later) is going to shut down Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill...KC did not win because they have a better defense than us...play to your strength...get Josh more and better weapons...we should be trying to do that every year. 

[SoCal Deek]

53 minutes ago, Special K said:

25. Trevor Penning T/G Northern Iowa

63. Kyren Williams RB Notre Dame

89. John Metchie III WR Alabama or Cade Otton TE Washington

And what are we doing about MLB? Please tell me we aren’t rolling Edmunds out there for another year of this experiment?

[Special K]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

And what are we doing about MLB? Please tell me we aren’t rolling Edmunds out there for another year of this experiment?

 

I think the Bills are stuck with him for one more year, but yeah, I see no way the Bills should sign him to a long term extension.

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Special K said:

 

I think the Bills are stuck with him for one more year, but yeah, I see no way the Bills should sign him to a long term extension.

I’d cut your losses now. He’s shown no development whatsoever. His freakish athleticism is simply not enough to compensate for his total lack of football instincts. He’s not suddenly going to develop them. 

[Buffalo Boy]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’d cut your losses now. He’s shown no development whatsoever. His freakish athleticism is simply not enough to compensate for his total lack of football instincts. He’s not suddenly going to develop them. 

If we could sucker someone into a lucrative trade🤔

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

And what are we doing about MLB? Please tell me we aren’t rolling Edmunds out there for another year of this experiment?

If a new DC comes in, could bring a new “perspective”

 

just saying

[dave mcbride]

19 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I agree he's not built like a traditional Guard, but it's not 1978 any more either. If it does turn out he doesn't have the feet to play Tackle at this level, you're not going to cut him or just stick him on the bench. He's the kind of guy you want on the field.

As for him getting murdered inside; I'm not buying that. He doesn't strike me as somebody you want to fight in a phone booth. 

I'm willing to give him more than 2/3 of a season to prove himself at RT. He had some shaky performances but some good ones too. I mean, the leap from Northern Iowa to the NFL is huge.

[billsfan714]

3 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

An undersized player that isn't very athletic with a high motor and lunch pail.

That was classic, well done.

[billsfan714]

 

An edge rusher that isn't a hybrid DE/DT or is timed with a sun dial(Epenesa).  One or two sacks and not almost sacks wins us the KC game.   Speed on the edge.

Edited January 25, 2022 by billsfan714

[BRH]

Haven't read any of the thread, but the answer is Jameson Williams, assuming he will recover by the start of the season.

[BADOLBILZ]

19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm willing to give him more than 2/3 of a season to prove himself at RT. He had some shaky performances but some good ones too. I mean, the leap from Northern Iowa to the NFL is huge.

 

And he didn't even play in college in 2020.

 

He went from a relative non-prospect to a very worthy 3rd rounder simply by working with Joe Staley.........the only game work he got was the Senior Bowl.

 

Pretty remarkable.    Great athlete.    Like his future if he stays hungry.

[Beast]

Corner at 25 would be my guess if the value is there. We will most likely be losing Wallace, White's status coming off an ACL...I think Corner is a safe bet for a first or second round pick.

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, whorlnut said:

You conveniently left out all the first and second round picks on defense. That’s my point. You literally just supported my argument by naming all those picks on offense. We spent one pick on an offensive player before the third round…unless you want to count the first (and multiple others) for Diggs. Meanwhile, we seem to load up on first and second round talent on defense. 

If that was your point, then you did not express it all too well.

 

There is nothing wrong with using first and/or second round picks on defense.

 

You may not see it that way, but let me add that a few of those mid round offensive picks(Singletary, Knox & Davis) have yielded some quality players.

 

Looks to me like the front office knows what they are doing.

[bobobonators]

I would be in favor of trading up to 15ish for impact WR or LB. Imagine a Micah Parsons impact type LB? Or maybe land the next Keuchly - thats what Edmunds was supposed to be for our defense and never was unfortunately. 
 

I think this team is deep enough that we can risk trading up for a stud to make a super bowl run. 
 

if we stay put id draft OL or CB in that spot. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

On 1/24/2022 at 3:06 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Your 1 tech isn't a nose tackle........he still needs to be able to make plays...........Davis doesn't do that.

 

His 2021 production was pretty anemic actually.

 

14 games 32 tackles 5 TFL and 2 sacks

 

Harrison Phillips senior year line at Stanford:

 

14 games 98 tackles 17 TFL and 7.5 sacks

 

Phillips is a true 1 tech who is coming into his own now............they need a backup to him but they don't need to use a first round pick there.

 

Support the QB.........Allen can't endure the kind of beating he took running the ball that much year after year...........he needs playmakers and blocking and those take HUGE precedence over a filling a run defense role.

 

Comparing stats in the PAC 12 with stats from the SEC is something I won’t even engage you on.

I like Harrison Phillips, but he isn’t in the same ball park talent wise as Davis. Davis is big, fast, and agile. Now I am not advocating for Davis or a 1 tech, I know what one is btw, I played oline on the collegiate level.

Day one starters for interior oline can be found on day two and three of the draft. Bills do need line help on O and D, I can get on board with that. 

Edited January 26, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975

[LifeLongFan]

A look into the draft!

 

We should do everything in our Power to Trade Tremaine Edmunds for a #2/3 pick and use it manoeuvre and navigate in this years draft.  We are so close!!

 

Our top Priority should be LB Devin Loyd from Utah  - We need speed at Linebacker and this guy is a game wrecker!  We would most likely have to trade up 5+ spots to snag him!

 

We should also be looking at Dahan Dotson (WR) from Penn State- He has improved a lot and runs a 4.3  ( I will assume that we may or may not re sign Mckenzie)

 

In addition- another Linebacker in 2nd/3rd round we should be all over is Darrian Beavers- This guy is a beast.

 

WE NEED to get faster PERIOD!  All Bills Mafia are sick of seeing horrendous coverage in the middle of the field by our backers and people running down hill at them all day!  

 

I am ok if we need to give up some additional capital, use the pick for Edmunds to move up if need be...   2/3 of these guys would be unreallll

 

All (3) and I don't see us losing a game next year!   I am serious lol...... 

 

no champagne for the Dolphins in 2022

 

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

On 1/24/2022 at 3:06 PM, SACTOBILLSFAN said:

I think we're delusional if we think Linderbaum will be there. He's much much more likely to go top 10 than fall to 25.

 

 

We should rejoice if some dumb team takes a center in the top 25 and let's a player at a big dollar position fall down to us.

 

People need to learn that that first round pick should be a player who you can't realistically acquire for reasonable money in UFA............a guy with a $25M-$30M aav ceiling when they pan out.

 

No runnin' bax,  no guards, no centers,  no off-ball LB's, safeties, RT only's or run stuffing DT's..

 

Good players at these less expensive positions regularly make it to free agency and sign for much less than the very few good but lesser players at QB/PassRush/CB1/WR1/LT who don't get a second contract with their drafting team.

 

Let other teams draft those positions early and then when those players reach UFA and they can't pay them because they have to pay top dollar for distressed merchandise at actual KEY positions in UFA..........you have the money to sign a Micah Hyde or Mitch Morse if you need a stud at those spots.

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[Solomon Grundy]

10 minutes ago, LifeLongFan said:

A look into the draft!

 

We should do everything in our Power to Trade Tremaine Edmunds for a #2/3 pick and use it manoeuvre and navigate in this years draft.  We are so close!!

 

Our top Priority should be LB Devin Loyd from Utah  - We need speed at Linebacker and this guy is a game wrecker!  We would most likely have to trade up 5+ spots to snag him!

 

We should also be looking at Dahan Dotson (WR) from Penn State- He has improved a lot and runs a 4.3  ( I will assume that we may or may not re sign Mckenzie)

 

In addition- another Linebacker in 2nd/3rd round we should be all over is Darrian Beavers- This guy is a beast.

 

WE NEED to get faster PERIOD!  All Bills Mafia are sick of seeing horrendous coverage in the middle of the field by our backers and people running down hill at them all day!  

 

I am ok if we need to give up some additional capital, use the pick for Edmunds to move up if need be...   2/3 of these guys would be unreallll

 

All (3) and I don't see us losing a game next year!   I am serious lol...... 

 

no champagne for the Dolphins in 2022

 

 

 

I like the Darrian Beavers choice!! Fred Warner, KJ Wright were drafted in rds 3-4. I want to get Josh more weapons in the first 2 rds

[Donuts and Doritos]

A punter 😉

OR

Another fast shut down Corner

[BADOLBILZ]

32 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Comparing playing stats in the PAC 12 with stats from the SEC is something I won’t even engage you on. It honestly erodes your credibility. 

I like Harrison Phillips, but he isn’t in the same ball park talent wise as Davis. Davis is big, fast, and agile. Now I am not advocating for Davis or a 1 tech, I know what one is btw, I played oline on the collegiate level.

Day one starters for interior oline can be found on day two and three of the draft. Bills do need line help on O and D, I can get on board with that. 

 

 

Point is that one player was an active tackling machine with zero question about his conditioning..........the other was a 45% of snaps rotational player with modest production and concerns about conditioning. 

 

But if nothing negative comes out about him and he's on the board late in the 3rd round like Phillips then that pick makes sense.    Fit right into that rotation as a cheap 40% snap guy for a few years.    My guess is he doesn't fall that far unless a medical or character issue gets exposed but at 360 one or the other might just pop up.   Last thing the Bills need is a Mekhi Becton situation with their #1 pick right now.   

 

Round 1 is for money down players and players who can win outside in one on one positions..........Davis is neither of those at this point.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[Kaenon]

As the resident Aggies fan, it's an easy answer.

With the 25th pick, the Buffalo Bills select, DL DeMarvin Leal, Texas A&M.

On 1/24/2022 at 12:02 PM, CountDorkula said:

Jameson Williams WR - Alabama

 

Alabama's Jameson Williams, the projected top WR in the 2022 NFL Draft, tore his ACL last night vs. Georgia, per sources. Doctors believe that, after surgery within the next 10 days, Williams will retain his sub 4.3 speed, and they expect a full recovery.

 

Through 15 games, he logged 79 catches for 1,572 yards and 15 touchdowns.

He's a hot head and a player that does not fit this team.

 

Quite the playmaker, certainly, but he won't be a fit for Beane and McDermott.