GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 15 hours ago, whorlnut said: I don’t understand the corner crowd. Beane said in his presser yesterday that they thought about one in round two last year but decided they might not beat out Dane Jackson. There were some good ones still on the board at that point as well. There really weren't actually. The 4 true first round corners in last year's class were gone well before we picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/25/2022 at 6:59 PM, LifeLongFan said: A look into the draft! We should do everything in our Power to Trade Tremaine Edmunds for a #2/3 pick and use it manoeuvre and navigate in this years draft. We are so close!! Our top Priority should be LB Devin Loyd from Utah - We need speed at Linebacker and this guy is a game wrecker! We would most likely have to trade up 5+ spots to snag him! We should also be looking at Dahan Dotson (WR) from Penn State- He has improved a lot and runs a 4.3 ( I will assume that we may or may not re sign Mckenzie) In addition- another Linebacker in 2nd/3rd round we should be all over is Darrian Beavers- This guy is a beast. WE NEED to get faster PERIOD! All Bills Mafia are sick of seeing horrendous coverage in the middle of the field by our backers and people running down hill at them all day! I am ok if we need to give up some additional capital, use the pick for Edmunds to move up if need be... 2/3 of these guys would be unreallll All (3) and I don't see us losing a game next year! I am serious lol...... no champagne for the Dolphins in 2022 Folks keep talking about trading Edmunds for a 2nd or 3rd round pick, as though that's just sitting on the table waiting to be done. Who's to say if he has that sort of trade market?! I'll believe it when I see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Its as if some people have recently developed amnesia....are we forgetting how criminally inept our O-line was for a substantial portion of the year? Protect your quarter of a billion dollar investment with at least 2 OL. Anything else would be front office negligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The bills have traded their first round pick + to New Orleans for Alvin Kamara 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: To be fair it’s not just that we need one it’s also a strength of this upcoming draft Ok…then there should be one later then. This is the argument every year against drafting a WR early. 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: There really weren't actually. The 4 true first round corners in last year's class were gone well before we picked. In the first round yes… But the argument was the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I expect the pick to be the best DL (and likely an Edge Rusher) available. When at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try again, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, whorlnut said: In the first round yes… But the argument was the second round. It was a very shallow corner class last year. The number of guys I thought were starters beyond the four first round talents - Surtain, Farley, Horn and Newsome - was very small. They all pretty much got pushed up a round IMO compared to their talent or were very scheme specific. To be honest this corner class is a bit deeper, but I don't think it is nearly as deep as the receiver class. 14 hours ago, Nextmanup said: The dumb guys in this league trade up; the smart ones trade down. If only it were that simple..... of course it isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) this thread hurts me so much...should be talking about an afc championship game...instead...the draft. 😞 Edited January 28, 2022 by zevo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ufa/buffalo-bills// If you look at the Bills UFAs, WR, DE, and DT are all areas that need to be addressed. With Wallace being a FA & White's injury likely push CB up the list of needs. I just think that they go DL, again. At a minimum, it is a safe bet given their track record. It will be interesting to see how FA changes things and what the needs are looking like closer to the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bob Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 http://buffalofambase.com/2022/01/28/db-positional-analysis-buffalo-bills/ Quote Since 2017, 35% of Beane’s “draftees” have come from the ACC, and 49% of his “draftees” have come from the ACC, SEC, and AAC. That was a pretty good article and it shows some of the draft trends that Beane has had so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, zevo said: this thread hurts me so much...should be talking about an afc championship game...instead...the draft. 😞 We could’ve done both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, zevo said: this thread hurts me so much...should be talking about an afc championship game...instead...the draft. 😞 Time to embrace it. We have a lot of decision making to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, zevo said: this thread hurts me so much...should be talking about an afc championship game...instead...the draft. 😞 And the first thread on comp picks just to rub it in. Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Bye Edmunds Hello Demone Clark ILB LSU 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Bye Edmunds Hello Demone Clark ILB LSU I dont follow college close enough to know how good Clark is but sign me up. I've been on the fence about edmunds but after watching what Bolton did to us Sunday, let's draft some competition at the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 11:54 AM, GunnerBill said: Trevor Penning, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa. Andrew Booth, Cornerback, Clemson Chris Olave, Wide Receiver, Ohio State I'm good with any of those. Why would we take an Offensive Tackle when we have Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown? We're not going to move either to the bench and we're not going to spend a 1st on depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: Why would we take an Offensive Tackle when we have Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown? We're not going to move either to the bench and we're not going to spend a 1st on depth. I have addressed it multiple times elsewhere on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeLongFan Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 7:06 AM, london_bills said: The bills have traded their first round pick + to New Orleans for Alvin Kamara This is actually a possibility! I was thinking of this the other day..... That would be epic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Best available CB. Tre was taken at 27, imagine getting another CB even remotely close to as good as tre at 25? Wallace simply isn’t good enough and will be way overpaid (hopefully not by a team that expects him to play a lot of man). Rewatching the last two playoff games, Wallace was really bad. even vs NE he was bailed out by Hyde on that 1st NE drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 We need better LBs. Give me Nakobe Dean OLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, bills6969 said: We need better LBs. Give me Nakobe Dean OLB I don’t agree - I’m not an Edmunds fan but we only play 2 LBs at a time and Edmunds and Milano will be here for a while. We have far greater needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I absolutely hate to say this, I am beyond mortified and repulsed by saying this.. but it has to be a CB RD1.. and I’m equally repulsed and disgusted by saying that we may need to even double dip as high as RD3.. • Strong draft for CBs. • TreDavious is coming off an ACL. • Wallace and Jackson are nice depth pieces, but not starters. • We need some serious help shutting down Kelce and Hill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Trey McBride TE Colorado state screw defense I want more weapons for Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Kenyon Green or a Dline player would be my targets assuming Levi, Bates, Mac and Phillips are resigned the Bills biggest need in my opinion will be to sure up the lines. I know Bates solidified the LG position down the stretch but I think Green would add tremendous depth to the Oline and take over for D Williams or Bates after next season. You can’t go wrong trying to catch lightning in a bottle via drafting more defensive line players. But I am not sure who fits the Bill as a pass rusher either on the interior or edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I absolutely hate to say this, I am beyond mortified and repulsed by saying this.. but it has to be a CB RD1.. and I’m equally repulsed and disgusted by saying that we may need to even double dip as high as RD3.. • Strong draft for CBs. • TreDavious is coming off an ACL. • Wallace and Jackson are nice depth pieces, but not starters. • We need some serious help shutting down Kelce and Hill. You’re 100% correct here. Not sure about the 2nd CB though - I’d like for us to sign a veteran on the cheap. I’d go something like: 1 cb 2 dt 3 wr 4 Guard sign vet UFA cb, sign gronk, sign difference make DE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: You’re 100% correct here. Not sure about the 2nd CB though - I’d like for us to sign a veteran on the cheap. I’d go something like: 1 cb 2 dt 3 wr 4 Guard sign vet UFA cb, sign gronk, sign difference make DE I would hate to argue with your list of needs, but I think I would go WR RD2 right after we go CB RD1. Other than that, I can’t say I really disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Jahan Dotson, WR Penn State. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I would hate to argue with your list of needs, but I think I would go WR RD2 right after we go CB RD1. Other than that, I can’t say I really disagree with you. I love a a speed wr in rd 2 but a big fat DT is a desperate need. We have nobody other than Oliver although I think we resign Harry. Star I think is a cap cut. free agency signings or lack of will be telling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Give Josh more weapons. Trying to depend on his legs forever just isn’t sustainable. Get him a fast wideout and a fast RB to take the pressure off him to make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Turbo44 said: I love a a speed wr in rd 2 but a big fat DT is a desperate need. We have nobody other than Oliver although I think we resign Harry. Star I think is a cap cut. free agency signings or lack of will be telling Yep, I can’t say I disagree with you. NT is a huge need, but based off of what I know about this draft it seems that it’s very deep at CB and WR. So in my mind, go where the talent is at. I think WR is a sneaky need for this team. In my mind, both Beasley and McKenzie are gone (Sanders too), so we need to add a couple bodies here. Getting Josh more weapons is our #1 priority. I’m not trying to be so blasé about NT, but I think getting Josh another playmaker would help this team more than a good NT ever could and good NTs can be found RD3 and beyond. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) #25 is a good spot to find a top quality C or G or TE or DB. The Bills need to get themselves one. Edited January 30, 2022 by SoTier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Yep, I can’t say I disagree with you. NT is a huge need, but based off of what I know about this draft it seems that it’s very deep at CB and WR. So in my mind, go where the talent is at. I think WR is a sneaky need for this team. In my mind, both Beasley and McKenzie are gone (Sanders too), so we need to add a couple bodies here. Getting Josh more weapons is our #1 priority. I’m not trying to be so blasé about NT, but I think getting Josh another playmaker would help this team more than a good NT ever could and good NTs can be found RD3 and beyond. I don’t disagree. Maybe we can sign a UFA dt or like you said, grab one in rd 3. I guess it all depends on how the board falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Beane is pretty much a BPA guy & I don’t think he’ll miss. Just have to hope he gets a punter somewhere down the line 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Doesn’t seem likely but 6foot 1 inch 220 pound Breece Hall, runs a 4.39 40. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Golden said: Doesn’t seem likely but 6foot 1 inch 220 pound Breece Hall, runs a 4.39 40. Or you might be able to get Jerome Ford later in the draft. 5 ' 11: 220e and a 4.36. I'm not a fan of RB's in the 1st round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 12:40 PM, whorlnut said: Yes. Good point. Those 2 series were awful. Just make no sense whatsoever. I know the run game came a long way, but they almost expected that to continue even though it was evident early on that this was gonna have to be the Josh Allen show. Two wasted series. You have to wonder if that's McDermott's influence, again. His education is coming along too slowly, and he's holding back this team. Yes, he learned to go for it on fourth down past the 50-yard line. Baby is coming along. But he still doesn't get that you can't waste drives. He punts on his own 34 with one foot to go with the best short-yardage quarterback in the history of football, facing a team that WILL score if you punt. One calendar year to the day from his disgraceful punt- and field-go festival against KC, he still doesn't get it. The Education of Sean McDermott = "D'oh!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 There are going to be some nice receivers available at the end of round one. I like the Burks kid from Arkansas the best. Also Wandale Robinson from KY might be there for us in Rd 2. Think he would be a good replacement in the slot for Beasley. Get Josh as many weapons as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 11:37 AM, Southern_Bills said: OL is what I would think, but for some reason I see a CB coming. It is a position of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The pick has to be CB. A starting one won't be available in FA at a reasonable price and with Wallace likely leaving and Tre's status up in the air, it's a need. They can add a WR or two in FA or the later rounds of the draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Yep, I can’t say I disagree with you. NT is a huge need, but based off of what I know about this draft it seems that it’s very deep at CB and WR. So in my mind, go where the talent is at. I think WR is a sneaky need for this team. In my mind, both Beasley and McKenzie are gone (Sanders too), so we need to add a couple bodies here. Getting Josh more weapons is our #1 priority. I’m not trying to be so blasé about NT, but I think getting Josh another playmaker would help this team more than a good NT ever could and good NTs can be found RD3 and beyond. Exactly. I’m tired of all the early picks on defense. It’s gotten us the number one defense in the league with a lot of solid young players to develop. Enough. What we need to do is load up on offense. Our WR are either old or slow. We don’t have anyone that os young with speed. Our RB room is slow too. On top of that, we still need some solid guards to protect Allen and open holes for our runners. 4 minutes ago, Doc said: The pick has to be CB. A starting one won't be available in FA at a reasonable price and with Wallace likely leaving and Tre's status up in the air, it's a need. They can add a WR or two in FA or the later rounds of the draft. No. No. No. you can just as easily add a corner in the later rounds. It works both ways. Time to start throwing some elite traits into this offense and make it unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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