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I have no ties or feelings to Garrett.  But this is absolute garbage.  He has a subpar QB, a running back that's never on the field (and I'm a huge PSU fan), and a terrible offensive line.  I think their WRs were hurt a lot as well.  

 

And if that isn't bad enough.......they replace him with FREDDIE KITCHENS.......yikes.  

 

Something tells me Garrett is lucky to be fired from that crapshow.  And it's funny, because when the Bills were mediocre year after year, Bob Papa would be on Sirius XM NFL Network with an arrogant take on what's wrong with every other NFL team and how stable the Giants org was.  Ummmm, yeah Bob, your QB now sucks, in you are smack in the middle of NFL purgatory.  I love it.

 

Enjoy Freddie Kitchens.

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Scapegoat.  Gettlebaum knows he’s next to get fired .  If that offense doesn’t show significant improvement in next 7 games, he’s gone too.  And new GM means Judge most likely gone too.  

How overdue is that?  He’s been awful.  As for Judge, you’re probably correct.  The only other good option is to let him pick the new GM.  They’d have to be way more sold on him than I am to let him do that.  Better to move on from everyone. 

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Just now, Rc2catch said:

Should of fired him at halftime last night. 
Daniel Jones has very brief flashes of playing decent but he should not be a starter next year. Giants should be ready to clean house at the end of the year and go all in for their next quarterback whoever that may be. 


Will Jones go the Trubinsky route next year? I could see that for him.

26 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

The Bills should bring him in to replace Daboll🤣🤣

 
A new record, it only took one post. A HOF post right here?

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2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

Did you see the game last night?

 

I wish I could get paid NFL money to make decisions like that

I wasnt implying he was good but the QB class is very weak and Jones is still on his rookie contract.  Mike Glennon isnt the answer.  So are the Giants going to suffer through another year or two with  Daniel Jones, who knows.

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The Giants need to clean house top to bottom. Gettleman needs to go, and their coach too most likely. If their HC stays he may have a hand in selecting the GM- but has he warranted any trust at this point? His team is garbage and not getting better under his leadership. 
 

Also, depending on the QB class coming up, they have to seriously evaluate Danny Dimes future. We see the difference in a QB who’s rough around the edges and a bad line and what he can do. Danie Jones hasn’t shown a fraction of what Josh did. Even as a rookie with the worst line in the NFL Josh mustered at least 6 wins out of that team. I don’t think DJ could pull that off, and he has way more weapons than Josh did that year. That being said, rookie contract. If next year is a good QB class you roll Dan out there one more year and hope you get in position to get top talent. 

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He's Exhibit A of "well, it looks great on paper."

 

He will continue to wow team executives and coaches in the off season.  He clearly has a top notch agent, as well.  

 

The Giants need to burn that house down  and excavate the basement walls and start all over.  Gettleman and Judge are half measures - the mediocrity there is systemic and it goes beyond them.  

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54 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I wasnt implying he was good but the QB class is very weak and Jones is still on his rookie contract.  Mike Glennon isnt the answer.  So are the Giants going to suffer through another year or two with  Daniel Jones, who knows.

 

They cant go with Jones again next year in my view...

 

They need to find another option even if its rolling the dice on another QB ( not necessarily with their Top 10 pick)  in this coming draft and pairing him with a Plan B vet like Tyrod Taylor or somebody else available...

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1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

The Bills should bring him in to replace Daboll🤣🤣

Don't laugh.... Daboll May be in trouble on the Bills. I have this sneaking suspicion that it was Daboll that thought the run game is now obsolete. He ask Beane for RBs that can block and now we need a serious rebuild with Ford, Singletary and Moss all strikes. Three strikes and you're out.

It is going to be very difficult to fix this in the off-season. We need to fix both the OL and get new backs. If that was all that was needed you'd think maybe we could do it, but no. The Bills need a new DT desperately this offseason. The kind you get with first round picks....

 

Bills needs this offseason greatest to least: DT, G, OT or C/G (depending on how they feel about Williams) RBs (plural) WR, TE, Outside CB......

 

Sounds like a lot....

 

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1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

He'll bounce around the league forever, like all NFL coaches/coordinators do.

 

No big deal for him.

 

Probably glad to be out of NY.

 

 

 

Kind of like Norv Turner.  Must be something about coaching Dallas.  Maybe JJ pays other teams under the table to hire these guys so he can claim the offsets! LOL

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All good for him. He signed a two year $5M contract, so now he can spend Thanksgiving with his family as the $208K checks roll in every month. He's made a boat load of money being completely mediocre his whole career. Nice gravy train if you can get on it. Some posters here sadly think the Bills should sign him. Makes you wonder if some folks here follow the game at all.           

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8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

This was general opinion for the Watson/Mahomes draft as well. You just never know.

I will not argue with this because you are certainly correct, yet; imo it is an even worse scenario in 2022. 

 

I will readily admit to not having known much about Mahomes at the time but I was all in on Watson. That said, look at what happened to that guy. :( 

 

 

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I remember when poor Wade Phillips was the HC of the Cowboys.  Insiders said he was a dead man walking because Jerry Jones considered Garrett a young, up-and-coming coaching superstar.  It was only a matter of time before Phillips would be replaced.

 

In his four years, Phillips won 60.7% of his games with the Cowboys.  In his ten years, Garrett won 55.9% of his.  

 

Phillips won over 60% of his games with both the Bills and Boys and yet got fired from both gigs in less than 4 seasons.   Garrett got 10 years of patience in Dallas despite perpetual mediocrity.   Now the Giants don't even consider him worthy of a coordinator position. 

 

The NFL is a funny place.  

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4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Garret was an easy target.

 

Giants have a monster decision coming up, do they go with Jones as their guy?

Jones is such a weird player. Sometimes he makes these amazing plays and throws where you think he’s got a shot, then he gets flustered and throws an awful INT. There’s some early JA in him (although not nearly as talented). But in year 3, these should be few and far between. 
 

I think he will be like Derek Carr. Too good to replace, too bad to win anything

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

This was general opinion for the Watson/Mahomes draft as well. You just never know.

This draft looks more like Geno and EJ

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