Inigo Montoya Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326438 Tua 21/39 passing 53% completion 205 yards 5.3 yard average 0 passing TDs 1 INT 4 rushes 10 yards 1 rush TD Tua QBR; 68 Josh 29/42 passing 69% completion 249 yards 5.9 yard average 2 passing TDs 0 INT 8 rushes 55 yards 1 rush TD Josh QBR; 45 Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. Edited November 1, 2021 by Inigo Montoya 2 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Didn’t ESPN create that stat? That could be the answer. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Ignore proprietary algorithms 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 That's got to be glitch/error right? I mean QBR is bad but what could they possibly be using to give Tua a higher rating? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 QBR evaluates how plays should have turned out (in someone's opinion), not how they actually turned out. Allen vs Tua result is absurd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I don't think its possible for any real mathematical calculation to give that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. Not exactly. Tua had an INT while Josh had 0... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 It’s always been worthless, but this makes zero sense at all. In the past I thought they weighed yards per attempt too heavily. But Josh beat him in that stat also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Beast said: Didn’t ESPN create that stat? That could be the answer. I don’t think there is anything to add beyond that. ESPN is fading like Sports Illustrated, remember them? They are BOTH hot garbage. ESPN college basketball recruiting is inferior to what some middle school kids can produce. They should be embarrassed and just shut that down. The last decent thing they had was Mike & Mike, and they managed to ruin that. . Edited November 1, 2021 by Augie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 QBR has always been *****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/889199-big-flaws-in-espns-total-qbr-exposed-after-tim-tebow-rates-above-aaron-rodgers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Josh was 45.4, not 54. You transposed. he wasn’t even average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Actually, in this game it was Allen that was throwing the short s*** passes & Tua that was throwing down the field (at least somewhat). Allen only had 1 20 yd completion whereas Tua had like 3 (including the 40 yder). I'll concede by the eyeball test, no way could you say Tua had a better game than Allen. But, possibly based on some sort of "yds completed down the field metric" (that ignores TD passes & INTS ) I could see how you would rate Tua's performance superior. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, hemma said: Josh was 45.4, not 54. You transposed. he wasn’t even average. Thanks! Just fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Tua had more ypc. Way overrated stat in qbr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326438 Tua 21/39 passing 53% completion 205 yards 5.3 yard average 0 passing TDs 1 INT 4 rushes 10 yards 1 rush TD Tua QBR; 68 Josh 29/42 passing 69% completion 249 yards 5.9 yard average 2 passing TDs 0 INT 8 rushes 55 yards 1 rush TD Josh QBR; 45 Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. 4 Letters E S P N it’s honestly a useless stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Clearly it means the Bills need to trade 3 firsts for Pervy Pervster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rew said: Tua had more ypc. Way overrated stat in qbr I have never heard anybody talk about yards per completion. It’s always yards per attempt. But that would be an explanation for Tua to rank higher since that’s the only statistic in which he beat Josh. It’s a dumb explanation, but it’s an explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Clearly it means the Bills need to trade 3 firsts for Pervy Pervster He was great for my fantasy team last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 ESPN is to sports what MSNBC, CNN & Fox News are to politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326438 Tua 21/39 passing 53% completion 205 yards 5.3 yard average 0 passing TDs 1 INT 4 rushes 10 yards 1 rush TD Tua QBR; 68 Josh 29/42 passing 69% completion 249 yards 5.9 yard average 2 passing TDs 0 INT 8 rushes 55 yards 1 rush TD Josh QBR; 45 Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. And on top of all that, Josh Allen rose to win the game for us while Toa disappeared. A lot of times I agree with the QBRs, on this occurrence I haven't the foggiest. It wasn't Josh's best game game but it was a hell of a lot better than tooahs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Clearly it means the Bills need to trade 3 firsts for Pervy Pervster Yep, git er done BeaneO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Not Allen’s best today. Got the victory with good play late but was not at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Remember when the "stat" was rolled out? Highest single game QBR: Charlie Batch's 2-pick, 180+ yd game in 2010. Not kidding. There's an article but I don't feel like looking it up bc it's so egregious. The guy on TBL last wk, talking about new QB metric, seems much more accurate (vid was posted but can't find). Esp welcome bc, as I recall, JA was top/top 3(?) this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326438 Tua 21/39 passing 53% completion 205 yards 5.3 yard average 0 passing TDs 1 INT 4 rushes 10 yards 1 rush TD Tua QBR; 68 Josh 29/42 passing 69% completion 249 yards 5.9 yard average 2 passing TDs 0 INT 8 rushes 55 yards 1 rush TD Josh QBR; 45 Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. Those QBR numbers HAS to be in reverse. Remember a QBR of 50 is average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326438 Tua 21/39 passing 53% completion 205 yards 5.3 yard average 0 passing TDs 1 INT 4 rushes 10 yards 1 rush TD Tua QBR; 68 Josh 29/42 passing 69% completion 249 yards 5.9 yard average 2 passing TDs 0 INT 8 rushes 55 yards 1 rush TD Josh QBR; 45 Can someone please explain to me how Josh beats Tua in every statistical category and finishes with a lower QBR? QBR is worthless. no way that’s correct. Got to be a glitch in the matrix Edited November 1, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) They showed the QB stats at the end of the game on the fantasy stats scoreboard, the one at the tunnel end of the field. It had those numbers totally opposite. Josh's rating was almost twice as high as Toungueaviolinoa. ESPN = Every Stat Produced, Nonsense Edited November 1, 2021 by Bubba Gump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I hope Tua's agent shows this to the Dolphins FO and they respond with "Yep, Tua's the guy. Thanks for the confirmation. Cut the conversation with the Texans and Watson. We have our QB". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Allen still got me 28pts in fantasy so that's not too shabby. Tua amassed 15. Enuf Said... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Part of the equation is based on how well you play when game is hanging in the balance, so Josh was worse in first half and Tua is not why Dolphins lost. I still can't explain this kind of stupidity except I know Tua made some real right window throws which boosts the number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Everyone just ignore this ridiculous qbr. It's always been flawed. The qb rating is all you need to see. Then sprinkle in Josh's running stats as gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, ngbills said: Not Allen’s best today. Got the victory with good play late but was not at his best. No, not his best. But what do you want? 400+ yards per game with 5 TDs? Yea that would be great but he did a pretty good job today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Throw em all out and what you got? Josh Allen- The breaker of the mold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Did you see Beasley's QBR of 1.2? How is he on this team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Part of the equation is based on how well you play when game is hanging in the balance, so Josh was worse in first half and Tua is not why Dolphins lost. I still can't explain this kind of stupidity except I know Tua made some real right window throws which boosts the number When Tua throws them they are tight window. When Josh throws them they are turnover worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: When Tua throws them they are tight window. When Josh throws them they are turnover worthy. Tua had infinitely more turnovers than josh 😂 he throws ducks all game long…dude just doesn’t have it. If the refs somehow don’t lose their eyesight tua looks much worse on the stat sheet Edited November 1, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: When Tua throws them they are tight window. When Josh throws them they are turnover worthy. Exactly. The dumbest "stat" in the history of sports. Turnover worthy plays. Soon they'll introduce a stat for "intended TD passes" or "possible sacks if your offensive line blinked out of existence after 2.5 seconds on a play". "Smart" people trying to show the world how smart they are by creating stupid numbers that don't mean anything. Want someone to believe your opinion? Give your opinion a number and call it a fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 QBR also takes into account 'general niceness'. Josh lost 22.7 overall points for taunting after the 2 point attempt. Tua held a door open for a man in a wheelchair as he left the stadium, so he gains 13.7 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I wonder if the Dolphins would trade Tua for Josh straight up? This might be the final piece to the Super Bowl puzzle Beane has been putting together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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