Milanos Milano Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Daboll is a liability, I honestly believe Daboll isn’t a good play caller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hopefully that was Daboll's last time calling plays on offense. Have Dorsey call the plays. Have McD call the plays. Have anyone else call the plays. Daboll can only beat up on average Ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, HOUSE said: The play was designed to confuse It did , the fans 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Well the fact is it was a horrible result. That doesn't negate Gilliam's part in it. We’re kind of splitting hair’s here. Bottom line…it was a bad call with bad execution 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I think the plan was to take your best players off the field and throw the ball 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage to make getting 1 yard as difficult as possible You can never understand the genius that is Daboll. He once stood next to next Saban and BB for extended periods of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 As I said in the other thread on the same topic... Beane: do that again and you'll be a candidate for the Texans head coach position this year rather than next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) It was 10-6. Our defense was playing great. An attempt to punt and pin them inside the 10 would be conservative but would have a much higher percentage for success than the ill fated backwards pass option. Our man in motion brought the defender into the play to make an easy read and a stop for a loss. I think our back had the option to either run or pass. It was a slow developing stupid play. A single RB and two TE formation might have been a nice look. Could be a sneak, or a dive play to the RB, or a fake run and then throw to a tall TE target. Anything but what we did. Edited September 12, 2021 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I hated the design of that play the moment it started. Not the right call for that scenario. Too many moving parts, too reliant on luck and things working as planned. On a big 4th and 1, Josh should line up under center, and do a QB sneak right over the center. You know, the play Tom Brady has pulled off 1,000 times in his career. It's boring, but it works. And Josh is a huge, strong, tall guy with long arms. That would be a much smarter play over a large sample of snaps than the crap we saw today. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Piss everyone off only because it did not work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Doesn't matter the block was missed and why pass 7yds backwards anyway. Just run it with Josh. If he doesn't make it, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, pigpen65 said: Looked like Mularkey returned with this week's game plan actually mularkey called that exact play against Seattle and it went for like a 40-yard McGahee TD. Seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BTB said: Help me out. At first I thought it looked like McKenzie was going to turn up field and Brieda was going to be able to throw it to him. It got blown up really quickly but McKenzie never turned up field either so idk. I hope we don't see it again I know that. I also know that when McKenzies man didn't follow him through the formation Josh should have called time out because he wasn't accounted for in the blocking. 49 minutes ago, Mr. K said: Piss everyone off only because it did not work. It's being cute in a tight game where cute wasn't called for. You have one of the best 4rh and one QBs in football and your offense is struggling. Take the first down and move on. Edited September 12, 2021 by That's No Moon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 the guy who prob should have gotten the ball in that situation was a healthy scratch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: An option. I think they just should've straight up sneaked it, or tried to draw Offside, or punted it. Hindsight 20/20. I thought Reggie Gilliam was gonna be the short yardage guy today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: I remember they pulled that play YEARS ago with Bledsoe and McGahee and it worked for a huge gain and a touchdown….I’ve seen it tried a couple times since then and it has always gone terribly YES! I was just about to post this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, ganesh said: I think the Steelers showed enough to stop the QB sneak. They had to do something different. It failed. Yeah, he was named Cam Heyward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I think the idea was to get them all focused on a QB sneak and find a way to get the ball outside everyone with a guy with speed. It did not work out, move on. Just now, mattynh said: I think the idea was to get them all focused on a QB sneak and find a way to get the ball outside everyone with a guy with speed. It did not work out, a lot of plays dont work out. People want creativity, then when they get it and it does not work they want predictable conservative plays. Cant have it both ways. Win some lose some, the Steelers played great on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Yes, that Seattle game, but IIRC it was a much tighter formation there. This looked to me like an option pass. Watch here at 1:18. Looks like almost the exact same play. Drew and Willis ran it better. When they ran it I immediately thought of this play. I remember it vividly cuz I was at that game. Edited September 13, 2021 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: I think it was a halfback pass. Seriously. Running back was going to catch the ball seven yards behind the LOS and then throw it downfield. Incredible. I think so too and to be fair we have executed this successfully in recent history lol. Someone whiffed badly on a block though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Some kind of trick play. Too cute. 0-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Too cute by Daboll. Your O line has to be able to get you a yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Our kicker has been so good. If we're inside the 40 I am always confused when we don't just kick it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Our kicker has been so good. If we're inside the 40 I am always confused when we don't just kick it. Take the points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Wood on the radio call said it was a situation of the Bills (Dabs) getting too cute for the situation and trying to hit a home run if it works, but of course quick pressure on the play meant that instead of a pitch, forced a throw and the rest speaks for itself… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 A ridiculous play call under the circumstances and you couldnt have screwed it up more than they did. I dont know why this is so tough, QB sneak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 hours ago, BTB said: Help me out. It was supposed to be a 1st down for us, but ended up being a first down for the opponent…. The bright side is we were 1/2 successful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Watch here at 1:18. Looks like almost the exact same play. Drew and Willis ran it better. When they ran it I immediately thought of this play. I remember it vividly cuz I was at that game. I recalled it immediately too and posted the video in another thread on here. it only worked on the Seattle game because Seattle sold out to stop the sneak. The Steelers didn’t and couldn’t because we were at like 4th and almost 2— they stayed disciplined in case we ran the ball. So, I think it is a good play, but was not run in the right scenario today for it to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Too cute by Daboll. Your O line has to be able to get you a yard. Reading between the lines of McDermott’s postgame presser, I think that’s where he is. He said “I need to do better” as though his mouth hurt. I think Daboll earned the right to be left alone to call plays last season, but I think McDermott is gonna be having a “heartfelt chat” with him 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: I remember they pulled that play YEARS ago with Bledsoe and McGahee and it worked for a huge gain and a touchdown….I’ve seen it tried a couple times since then and it has always gone terribly Yep. When I saw a replay I thought the same thing. Looked like a genius play in a blowout win at SEA that year. I’ll take josh on a 1 yard plunge for a first in that situation. Just get to the line quick, snap and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Interesting piece from the Athletic on the Steelers anticipating that call...... Tomlin and his staff noticed the Bills ran several fullback dives during the preseason and figured a complement would be for them to pitch the ball outside to a speed back. They practiced that scenario, and it came to fruition at the most critical of times. “That is something that we anticipated,” Tomlin said. “They got in that formation a bunch, four or five times in the preseason. We figured the next phase of it would be to fake it to the fullback and flip that ball out to them. We talked about it, but you can’t take anything away from Cam Sutton for making that play.” “They put some fullback on tape early in the year, and recognizing the play, trying to get the speed guy out in space,” Sutton said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Yes, that Seattle game, but IIRC it was a much tighter formation there. This looked to me like an option pass. It looked like Gilliam was also back there to maybe pass block but by the time he saw the DB it was too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 The play would have worked but the guy that Gilliam was supposed to block (Sutton) was already 7 yards in the backfield by the time Gilliam got into blocking position. So in summary they tried a cute play to get Brieda to the outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) I mean all around it was a horrible play call but why would you motion McKenzie across and bring his defender to the side you are trying to run to? And unsurprisingly the defender that was covering McKenzie made the stop on the play. Just burn it. Edited September 13, 2021 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Slants and outs were open all day. Lining up in these tight formations are 50/50 to squeak out first downs. There was no space to operate because all the Steelers were jammed 1 yard from the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 15 hours ago, BTB said: Help me out. Cannot remember who did it. But was done in the NFL in 2000s. it was a fake sneak flip very poorly executed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Warcodered said: We were trying to be too cute all game, you're the better team just be the better team. I was just so baffled in our propensity to try the trick play, rather than just let Josh be Josh and live or die by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: The other one was much worse. This looked like bad playcall in hindsight, but McD's decision to play 4&8 with no offensive rhythm instead of trying 53y FG after he didn't go for two shorter ones was extremely bad decision. I don't remember him making worse in game decision. The wind was so strong against the kick I doubt he makes it from 53. I was at the game Edited September 13, 2021 by MarkyMannn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 16 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: It was clearly to draw to them to Allen and to flip it over to Devin only problem Steelers saw it on film and 41 missed his block Devin was uncovered on the sidelines, it should have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Protocal69 said: The play would have worked but the guy that Gilliam was supposed to block (Sutton) was already 7 yards in the backfield by the time Gilliam got into blocking position. So in summary they tried a cute play to get Brieda to the outside Spencer Brown also missed his block, a big wiff on Ingram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Protocal69 said: The play would have worked but the guy that Gilliam was supposed to block (Sutton) was already 7 yards in the backfield by the time Gilliam got into blocking position. So in summary they tried a cute play to get Brieda to the outside Gilliam was "watching" Josh as part of the fake, so he was steps behind against a faster player. Coupled with Brieda getting outside faster because he didn't watch and making the block more difficult it really was a hot mess. Plus you're running it at Sutton, who made a lot of plays Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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