NewEra Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: That’s fine and dandy, but what do we have to do to get Reggie Ragland back? Take a dump in your pants. You got him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Other than the money, I assume Roberts figured he’d get a lot more opportunities returning kickoffs with Houston? That could be absolutely exhausting!!! Rarely does “run him ‘till he pukes” apply to kickoff returners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it? I wouldn't mind giving a late round pick up for him to ensure we get him. He's a superb kickoff and punt returner which is a rarity in the league nowadays. We could easily trade a late round pick for him and absorb his salary (2.5 million dollar cap hit). If not I'll be holding my breath every time McKenzie or whoever is returning punts is about to field it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Excellent shot he gets axed. He is their 7-8th listed WR and is second behind the infamous KeKe Coutee as a returner. Nothing worse than a bad case of Coutees on special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” So the cobra Kai of the nfl? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I was comfortable moving on from Roberts when we thought Mackenzie has his dropsies under control. But seeing as how it’s part of his game, I’d be okay with a 6th or 7th rounder to lose the TD return possibilities but to gain the ball security smarter decision making. When it comes down to it, Allen and company are what gets points, not returns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I have a box of tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 So has Lawson got that much worse or are the Texans a dumpster fire who can't evaluate players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Good thing he got paid by Miami. I never thought he was that bad. Maybe not a good scheme fit? Where’s Rex when you need him Personally, I didn’t care for him. Never lived up to his Draft status and his best year was his contract year. Hasn’t returned to that form and is too much of a I-Me-Mine kinda guy for my liking. I don’t wish ill will, just don’t want him back here. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 He may just not want to be there tbh. Houston might be 0-17 this year. Gotta be tough to go from a team on the rise (with Buffalo a couple years ago) to that situation unless all you really care about is $$$. He obviously chased the $$$ going to Miami though so who knows. I thought he was solid for us, especially that last season. He should be able to carve out a role somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Is that official team released? Amazing if true. They paid him a bunch of guaranteed money. I thought the same. Looks like he has been injured a lot during camp and hasn't played in any Preseason games. Here is the CBS stuff @Simon talked about. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1687529/andre-roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Screw Lawson. The dude chased the money instead of staying with a winner and the team that made him. I get wanting the best money but there can be middle ground. He was never that good anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I am thinking this guy has some consistency problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: So has Lawson got that much worse or are the Texans a dumpster fire who can't evaluate players? More like Houston had a need when JJ left and a LB they didn’t want and switched late round picks. Miami had paid some signing bonus and he has an out after this year. Of course - the Texans still are a dumpster fire anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: I posted this on another thread a month or so ago - the data to me doesn't seem to justify how Roberts provides value for a spot on the roster. "This data is from last October, but I have always been a bit skeptical of Andre Roberts .. he takes them out all the time and on average we were one of the better teams re: starting field position.. but by just a little bit ( a yard or two). I also think that Josh like most QBs struggle more when backed up .. I would be fine if Mackenzie took a knee every time .. and he has the added advantage of being a real WR. https://thecommutesports.com/2020/10/27/nfl-starting-field-position/ The chart is pretty interesting so I would recommend taking a look". You present an interesting point, especially since the kick return aspects of ST's have been neutered over the past 5 years or so. I just thought it may be an option considering McKenzie's injury and skepticism over our other options. 17 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Screw Lawson. The dude chased the money instead of staying with a winner and the team that made him. I get wanting the best money but there can be middle ground. He was never that good anyways. Really? Are you telling me you wouldn't have struck while the iron was hot? C'mon man. Buffalo wasn't coming anywhere near 10 mil per. Don't blame him or Phillips at all. NFL life is short. Edited August 27, 2021 by billsbackto81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Can’t get on the field in Houston? 😶 Just seeing those 2 names together is going to give me nightmares tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: No thank you. One hit wonder, and it wasn’t even that much of a wonder. Wasnt even that much of a hit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Zero interest. Happy he got paid and happy he's not on the Bills. Classic Rex Ryan regime pick. Look at his social media and it tells you everything you need to know about the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I would take Phillips back in a heartbeat. He would be a monster in this rotation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Dolphins say something similar. Their motto is: “you come to Miami and you’ll be the worst version of yourself.” You’re sneaky, Miyagi! You must be talking about Tua. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Wrote on here a few days ago Texans would likely cut Shaq Lawson and Andre Roberts. Roberts is old and has virtually no potential trade value. If they were to cut Roberts, do you think we pick him back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: Wait....when did he get traded to Houston and what for? Cause he didn’t play up to his contract that he got In Miami last year, sounds like he’s not doing well in Houston. I wonder if Beane and McD would consider bringing him back or if he would want to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Can’t get on the field in Houston? 😶 Lawson is actually a great fit for the the defensive rotation. But there really isn’t a spot for him, unless you want to cut Mario Addison and I’m not sure that will happen. I’d rather have the DE’s on the Bills roster over Lawson 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: Personally, I didn’t care for him. Never lived up to his Draft status and his best year was his contract year. Hasn’t returned to that form and is too much of a I-Me-Mine kinda guy for my liking. I don’t wish ill will, just don’t want him back here. For a mid-first round defensive lineman, you would expect better production especially when it comes to pass rush. The one thing he does really well is set the edge, and I remember him playing great against Lamar Jackson. Still I think DE is the one position group that doesn’t need an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Virgil said: No thank you. One hit wonder, and it wasn’t even that much of a wonder. Exactly, I want players who want to play hard beyond their contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Maybe not but Roberts would be welcome back I would think. I never heard why he left. Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, Utah John said: I never heard why he left. Does anyone know? I assume it was because hou offered more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Bad Ownership. Texans have a pastor who thinks he is the owner, an owner that thinks he is a pastor, a GM who thinks he is a coach and a coach that would like to retire. It really started to crumble giving Bill O Brien the Coach and GM positions. Had the idiot owner Cal McNair had any brains O Brien would have been fired on the spot for trading DeAndre Hopkins for a washed out running back who may also get cut this year. The stated reason for trading Hopkins was that the Texans couldn't afford to pay him, Watt, and Watson. THAT sure worked out, didn't it. Watt's also gone, and Watson is in limbo. Just now, WMDman said: I assume it was because hou offered more money Maybe that's it. But with all their other problems, outbidding another team for a returner doesn't seem like the place to start. 2 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: So lemme get this right: He leaves a playoff team for an inferior one, signs a 4 year deal worth about 40 million, then gets traded to the downward spiralling Texans, and has now been downgraded to a backup? What a fall from grace. I hope he got a lot of his money up-front. He probably won't be playing the full four years at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Texans finish with a better record than Jaguars. I think they beat them week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it? Yes, I think so. The other options on the team all have question marks. Roberts was dependable AND a real threat to score. He's a year older but he didn't seem to be tailing off last season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Maybe not but Roberts would be welcome back I would think. Vet minimum, and he may have a job..,, 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 If Lawson gets traded, he will be on his 4th in 2 years. He’s NFL version of Kenny Lofton. If you guys don’t remember Kenny Lofton, he was a baseball player that played for every major league team at least twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Lawson's game got much better in his contract year. He basically pulled a Dareus, or tried to. But that was then, and now the Bills have three great looking first-two-round DEs. No room/need for Lawson. Jordan Phillips is another story. I think we could use a big body, active guy at DT. Star can't play every down, and no one else seems to be able to hold up the interior of the line. 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If Lawson gets traded, he will be on his 4th in 2 years. He’s NFL version of Kenny Lofton. If you guys don’t remember Kenny Lofton, he was a baseball player that played for every major league team at least twice. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick's lead is safe. 11 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Texans finish with a better record than Jaguars. I think they beat them week 1. Wouldn't that be a Texan-style move? Lose next year's first draft pick right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Utah John said: Jordan Phillips is another story. I think we could use a big body, active guy at DT. Star can't play every down, and no one else seems to be able to hold up the interior of the line. Phillips is not the kind of guy you can rely on to hold the line, though. 3 minutes ago, Utah John said: Wouldn't that be a Texan-style move? Lose next year's first draft pick right off the bat. I hope you're not counting out the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Sign Roberts, cut McKenzie (his antics have become a distraction to the team and it's obviously rubbing McD the wrong way) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Utah John said: Lawson's game got much better in his contract year. He basically pulled a Dareus, or tried to. But that was then, and now the Bills have three great looking first-two-round DEs. No room/need for Lawson. Jordan Phillips is another story. I think we could use a big body, active guy at DT. Star can't play every down, and no one else seems to be able to hold up the interior of the line. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick's lead is safe. Wouldn't that be a Texan-style move? Lose next year's first draft pick right off the bat. Jags have a qb just trash upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Texans finish with a better record than Jaguars. I think they beat them week 1. I know the Jags got Lawrence but that’s not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Good thing he got paid by Miami. I never thought he was that bad. Maybe not a good scheme fit? Where’s Rex when you need him Not sure why you’d need him, but I’d take a closer look at any creepy guys hanging out outside of Nashville pedicure shops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, rayray808 said: Sign Roberts, cut McKenzie (his antics have become a distraction to the team and it's obviously rubbing McD the wrong way) Arguably our 4th best WR last season and was tearing up training camp and you want to cut him for an aging Kick returner? I like Roberts but no way am I cutting an actual weapon for a one trick pony. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Utah John said: I never heard why he left. Does anyone know? He was a UFA and Houston gave him a very nice deal for what he is. Beane actually said that at the time, he didn’t know what the cap space was actually going to be and he didn’t think they would be able to accommodate with all the deals they had in motion. At this point they could though… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Simon said: This one is newer and shows him where Roy claims Another one I saw also listed him not practicing and as questionable for Week 1 Just figured someone should post the OFFICIAL Texans' depth chart instead of third party sites: https://www.houstontexans.com/team/depth-chart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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