Mr. WEO Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Draconator said: So why isn't Tampa resigning him? He can still be effective in certain situations. Who knows? They are stacked with receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 "Good luck trying to block the right people now!" Brady posted on his Instagram story, with an image of the new numbers permitted. "Going to make for a lot of bad football!" WTF is he talking about? I had no idea only certain numbers could rush the QB. What a whiny little B****! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: "Good luck trying to block the right people now!" Brady posted on his Instagram story, with an image of the new numbers permitted. "Going to make for a lot of bad football!" WTF is he talking about? I had no idea only certain numbers could rush the QB. What a whiny little B****! I think the oncoming pass rush should have to loudly count to 'five Mississippi' before engaging Brady's O line. * All jerseys henceforth shall have no numerals, but a large 'GOAT' may be applied to the front and back of Mr. Brady's. * No, not this ⬇️ goat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 this is the next great debate after the tremaine edmunds debate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I'm not a huge supporter of the expanded numbers. Its fine, but I personally liked the "professionalism" of the number limits in the NFL. JMO But for Brady to complain about this when his offense in NE had a game where Edelman was ineligible on the line so the tackle was eligible and could catch passes to confuse the defense, seems like some sour grapes https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/03/25/new-england-patriots-ineligible-receiver-trick-banned#:~:text=NFL team owners voted to ban the ineligible receiver play,him as an ineligible receiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I'm not a huge supporter of the expanded numbers. Its fine, but I personally liked the "professionalism" of the number limits in the NFL. JMO But for Brady to complain about this when his offense in NE had a game where Edelman was ineligible on the line so the tackle was eligible and could catch passes to confuse the defense, seems like some sour grapes https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/03/25/new-england-patriots-ineligible-receiver-trick-banned#:~:text=NFL team owners voted to ban the ineligible receiver play,him as an ineligible receiver. Do you think Tainted T*m will hold our if head coach is not willing to take every advantage (cheat)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Limeaid said: Oh it will be harder for the old man to get calls in his favor. . He’s not wrong. It’s a horrible rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gugny said: Belichick: "If my player slips on that loogie, we're getting another conditional draft pick!" * Reaction from Florida: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, teef said: this is the next great debate after the tremaine edmunds debate. What debate, whether he is good or if he should switch to #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, without a drought said: What debate, whether he is good or if he should switch to #1 i think you've just created another debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I don't like the rule from a consumer standpoint. Nike jerseys are too expensive to be making so many outdated so quickly. Case in point, DeAndre Hopkins is teasing a switch from #10 to #6. And I'd bet a million Cardinals fans bought DeAndre Hopkins new jersey for $120 under a year ago. Hell, there's probably more than a few that randomly bought one within the past couple months. Glad we traded for this guy... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 9:35 PM, wppete said: Brady isn’t wrong. There is a reason they had rules for the numbers. Great comments by Brady, even though I can’t stand that guy I respect him as a football player. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31310379/tampa-bay-buccaneers-tom-brady-blasts-dumb-new-nfl-uniform-number-rule Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Tom Brady blasts 'dumb' new NFL uniform number rule TAMPA, Fla. -- While several NFL players expressed excitement this week over a newly adopted rule that allows more flexibility when it comes to the numbers worn on players' jerseys, Tampa Bay Buccaneersquarterback Tom Brady is not at all a fan. Brady took to Instagram on Thursday to express his dissatisfaction with the rule change, believing it will cause safety issues for the offense, such as identifying blitzers or who's the middle linebacker of the defense. Good luck trying to block the right people now!" Brady posted on his Instagram story, with an image of the new numbers permitted. "Going to make for a lot of bad football!" Brady then posted a screen capture of a story about the rule and directed it to the NFL and NFL Players Association, with the words "DUMB" and "Why not let the Lineman wear whatever they want too? Why have numbers? Just have colored jerseys...why not wear the same number?...DUMB." The NFL's new rule, adopted Wednesday with a number of other proposals, allows quarterbacks, punters and place-kickers to wear numbers 1-19, defensive backs 1-49, and then running backs, tight ends and wide receivers 1-49 and 80-89. Offensive linemen can wear 50-79, defensive linemen 50-79 and 90-99, and linebackers 1-59 and 90-99. Sorry, but I have to agree with Brady (for once.) This is just a stupid money grab by the NFL. The game has changed in so many ways for worst over the past 15 years. It's no where near the sport it used to be, but with that being said I still love it to death. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Zay Jones #11 best jersey evah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Sorry, but I have to agree with Brady (for once.) This is just a stupid money grab by the NFL. The game has changed in so many ways for worst over the past 15 years. It's no where near the sport it used to be, but with that being said I still love it to death. I agree with a bunch of this, but I don’t blame the NFL - the players in KC complained and that caused the staff to put in the request. This is 100% on a few stupid players that want to go back to their college days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I agree with a bunch of this, but I don’t blame the NFL - the players in KC complained and that caused the staff to put in the request. This is 100% on a few stupid players that want to go back to their college days. Which ones? Not that it’s possible to hate KC much more than I already do. I feel dirty agreeing with Brady but I liked having the numbers mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Is this the year Tom Brady fails? He throws more INT's b.c the numbers are changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I don't get this. Why are so many against this? It's just changing your number. Do colleges have trouble blocking the right people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 8:37 PM, ExWNYer said: Yes...and it's at the top of his head. Whether or not anybody thinks the rule change is bad is irrelevant. Brady will not elicit much empathy from anybody. He's an infamous whiner and has been involved in numerous cheating scandals during his career and is used to getting his way. I know it is hard for him to fathom but the league will survive without him or his opinions once he's gone. He's entering his 22nd year in the league and, if he can't handle this rule change or is afraid that his teammates can't, maybe it's time for him to finally hang them up. He's walking around with the 'GOAT' moniker...deal and STFU, Brady. Empathy has got nothing to do with it. He's simply trying to point out a bad rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 11:35 AM, teef said: i think you've just created another debate. Teef, I think we should really debate to have a debate and debate on how to proceed to debate and of course the ground rules for debating, and ohhhhh I’ve gone cross eyed. I think we should as k these two guys about the debate... Oh behave..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 9:35 PM, wppete said: Brady isn’t wrong. There is a reason they had rules for the numbers. Great comments by Brady, even though I can’t stand that guy I respect him as a football player. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31310379/tampa-bay-buccaneers-tom-brady-blasts-dumb-new-nfl-uniform-number-rule Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Tom Brady blasts 'dumb' new NFL uniform number rule TAMPA, Fla. -- While several NFL players expressed excitement this week over a newly adopted rule that allows more flexibility when it comes to the numbers worn on players' jerseys, Tampa Bay Buccaneersquarterback Tom Brady is not at all a fan. Brady took to Instagram on Thursday to express his dissatisfaction with the rule change, believing it will cause safety issues for the offense, such as identifying blitzers or who's the middle linebacker of the defense. Good luck trying to block the right people now!" Brady posted on his Instagram story, with an image of the new numbers permitted. "Going to make for a lot of bad football!" Brady then posted a screen capture of a story about the rule and directed it to the NFL and NFL Players Association, with the words "DUMB" and "Why not let the Lineman wear whatever they want too? Why have numbers? Just have colored jerseys...why not wear the same number?...DUMB." The NFL's new rule, adopted Wednesday with a number of other proposals, allows quarterbacks, punters and place-kickers to wear numbers 1-19, defensive backs 1-49, and then running backs, tight ends and wide receivers 1-49 and 80-89. Offensive linemen can wear 50-79, defensive linemen 50-79 and 90-99, and linebackers 1-59 and 90-99. Part of me feels like Brady is trolling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 WTH ... Changing numbers and they aren't allowing 0 and 00. I vote against this travesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 7:12 AM, K-9 said: Not buying it, Tommy. You don’t identify middle linebackers, etc., by their number; you identify them by where they are positioned on the field. But you know that. 43 is the Mike. Everybody knows this. I get your point and it may amount to just getting used to the change. However , Brady is a pretty cerebral guy so if he is seeing* potential problems, there may be something to his concern. For example, many Lb’s and safety’s are fairly close to each other in size or at quick glance. Now throw something in like Belicheck running that amoeba front that Josh actually had trouble with up until this past season. Even the first game was close and came down to the fumble covered by zimmerman. So all the guys are upright and shifting positions before the snap; I could easily see thinking a guy is a LB who looks like he is coming , but instead it’s a more sure handed safety who unexpectedly drops with the TE and Josh was thinking the TE was an open hot read and throws where a more mobile safety can react and pick it off. Josh went that way thinking he had a favorable matchup against a LB based on traditional uni numbers before the number changes , but now that guy is a safety , more agile in coverage , and I could at least fathom how this MIGHTbe an issue. Habit is a real thing, especially when you have had a certain system your entire career and you have 2 seconds to read and react. All I’m saying is if the most successful QB in NFL history sees potential issues, it probably has some validity and I imagine younger QBs and certainly rookies might struggle with it until they get games under their belt. Maybe they do identify players more by number and not just where they line up and I envision defensive coaches will try to use this in their favor somehow; hell once a year Belicheck pulls some obscure rule out to gain an advantage in a game! Just thinking it.might actually be an issue if Brady is concerned, and it just seems with all the issues in the NFL( making wrong calls, still making errors with replay, shaky definitions about what constitutes a catch etc), this just seems like they created a problem where there was no pressing need to do so! Lol! After 50 plus years of seasons, all the issues with COVID and attendance etc, this was an issue that HAD to be adresssed? A cynic might think it’s a way to generate jersey sales coming off a lower revenue season, and now some fans fav player whose jersey they own decides to change to his old high school number ! Guess we won’t know till we see what happens. 😊🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 I think he's right. I don't like any of these rules being added to the game in recent years. Expanding replay now, more emphasis on taunting, expansion of defenseless player, targeting, lower head penalties. Now we're going towards XFL with running backs wearing "3" and linebackers wearing "12". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 I disliked the rule until Brady started complaining and then I saw the merits.😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 shouldn't the color of the jersey matter more than the number? Throw the ball to the guy wearing same colors as you are. I don't get the big deal about this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 My knee jerk reaction to the numbers change was that I didn't like it for no other good reason than tradition/it was what I was used to. I am doing my best to not grow into a curmudgeon, so I just kept saying, "meh, it is just numbers, it will be fine". But I think Tom is on to something here. There will for sure be a learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Wow. All these years I never knew the reason Brad Van Pelt went to 5 straight Pro Bowls a a middle linebacker was because him wearing #10 consistently faked out the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 11:58 PM, BillsFan692 said: Can someone please explain to me the grievance? Each player on a team still has a unique number asigned to them so his case doesnt seem to hold water Because a 64 Skylark has independent suspension 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 ***** Tom brady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/27/2021 at 9:48 AM, HOUSE said: Because a 64 Skylark has independent suspension Thank you Mrs. Veto you have been a lovely, lovely witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nucci Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 9:19 PM, DrPJax said: I get your point and it may amount to just getting used to the change. However , Brady is a pretty cerebral guy so if he is seeing* potential problems, there may be something to his concern. For example, many Lb’s and safety’s are fairly close to each other in size or at quick glance. Now throw something in like Belicheck running that amoeba front that Josh actually had trouble with up until this past season. Even the first game was close and came down to the fumble covered by zimmerman. So all the guys are upright and shifting positions before the snap; I could easily see thinking a guy is a LB who looks like he is coming , but instead it’s a more sure handed safety who unexpectedly drops with the TE and Josh was thinking the TE was an open hot read and throws where a more mobile safety can react and pick it off. Josh went that way thinking he had a favorable matchup against a LB based on traditional uni numbers before the number changes , but now that guy is a safety , more agile in coverage , and I could at least fathom how this MIGHTbe an issue. Habit is a real thing, especially when you have had a certain system your entire career and you have 2 seconds to read and react. All I’m saying is if the most successful QB in NFL history sees potential issues, it probably has some validity and I imagine younger QBs and certainly rookies might struggle with it until they get games under their belt. Maybe they do identify players more by number and not just where they line up and I envision defensive coaches will try to use this in their favor somehow; hell once a year Belicheck pulls some obscure rule out to gain an advantage in a game! Just thinking it.might actually be an issue if Brady is concerned, and it just seems with all the issues in the NFL( making wrong calls, still making errors with replay, shaky definitions about what constitutes a catch etc), this just seems like they created a problem where there was no pressing need to do so! Lol! After 50 plus years of seasons, all the issues with COVID and attendance etc, this was an issue that HAD to be adresssed? A cynic might think it’s a way to generate jersey sales coming off a lower revenue season, and now some fans fav player whose jersey they own decides to change to his old high school number ! Guess we won’t know till we see what happens. 😊🧐 your opponent wears a different colored jersey. Number doesn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 God forbid one rule benefits a defense in todays day of age... everything goes the offenses way. Maybe you should actually do your research and be prepared on game day to find out who the teams Linebackers are.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/07/tom-brady-nfls-new-jersey-number-rule-is-crazy-big-advantage-to-the-defense/ Brady recently expanded on his thoughts: “The number rule is crazy,” Brady said. “Literally, guys changed their numbers today. I’m playing two guys who had different numbers in the preseason. So, yeah you’ve got to watch film and know who you’re studying but so do running backs. They’ve got to know who to block. So does the offensive line. So does the receivers who are adjusting their routes based on blitzes. “So one guys has got a 6, one guy has 11, one guy has got a 9. And they change every play when you break your routes and get to your spot. It’s going to be a very challenging thing. It’s a good advantage for the defense, which that’s what it is. “It would be like saying, ‘What if I let the offensive linemen wear 82 and No. 9?’ They wouldn’t know who was eligible. Well that’s not fair. You’ll get your tail kicked. At least identify who the D-line, the linebackers and the safeties are. You’re going to have a lot of matchups where guys are blocking the wrong guys. I don’t know why that should be.” Brady thinks the NFL would have benefited from talking to veteran quarterbacks before changing the rule..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Points "I'm not sure who is the Mike..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 52s the mike! I think. Maybe? The Goat does have a good point. I think I would’ve done single digits for DBs and WR only, but so many teams have DBs playing LB spots it doesn’t matter much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 11:04 AM, Boxcar said: Part of me feels like Brady is trolling. He is trying to fix his miserable reputation (sportsmanship, etc) with these recent statements, about Defenses being overly penalized, and the number thing, nothing this guy says has value, in which he is in effect, play acting so as to not appear to be the total suck up that he is, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: He is trying to fix his miserable reputation (sportsmanship, etc) with these recent statements, about Defenses being overly penalized, and the number thing, nothing this guy says has value, in which he is in effect, play acting so as to not appear to be the total suck up that he is, It all sounds like he got a PR person who's identified soft targets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Poor Tawmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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