78thealltimegreat Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Mock drafts this early are nuts but yeh to say he would be amazing in Buffalo is an understatement 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Mock drafts this early are nuts but yeh to say he would be amazing in Buffalo is an understatement cool with this or Higgins (or a DE.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 One thing I appreciate about Beane is that I am basically sure that we won’t be drafting a CJ Spiller, McCargo or Maybin again. For me, that makes the draft all the more fun. Last year I was somewhat stunned with the Singletary pick but, as per usual, Beane was right. My point is, whomever they pick, it has a high probability of being the right pick! 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) I’m fine with that if Beane thinks it’s the right pick. I like Beanes style for drafting. Beane goes into the draft with targets and then figures out how to get them as the draft evolves. Edited January 25, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 His highlight reel looks good but only 4 receiving TDs last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) Is this guy ever right? Edited January 25, 2020 by ALLEN1QB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Shenault Jr from the Colorado Buffaloes would be a good fit here. I've seen him going as high as #13 in a mock. The combine will fine tune the draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Is this guy ever right? Well he sat on nfl live last spring and got made fun of by the whole panel when he stuck his neck out for Allen and predicted Allen and the team would do well. Been posted on here a couple times..... so there’s that I guess 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Is this guy ever right? Well, here's a list of his biggest misses. To be fair, a lot of people missed on these guys. Add to the list Chris Spielman, who he saw as a decent player who would go in 4th or 5th round. In fairness to him, a lot of folks missed on these guys. But Mel is clearly not a man of his word, saying about Jimmy Clausen "If he is not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I'm done. That's it. I'm out." https://www.thesportster.com/football/mel-kipers-top-15-biggest-draft-mistakes/ The only one able to accurately predict Bills top picks is Berman's cabbie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I don't particularly like Shenault as a WR prospect. He seems more athlete than refined WR to me kind of like Cordarelle Patterson was coming out of Tennessee. To me there is a lot of risk that he never becomes a dominant WR and is just more of as gadget player. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eball said: His highlight reel looks good but only 4 receiving TDs last year? He was hurt much of season. Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL. Watch this piece on Laviska and his family. https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person. He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone. He is a amazing kid, with tough story. Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy. Edited January 25, 2020 by Billsflyer12 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: Last year I was somewhat stunned with the Singletary pick but, as per usual, Beane was right. My point is, whomever they pick, it has a high probability of being the right pick! What the Singletary pick shows is that fans and pundits can make Mock Drafts based on what they see as needs of any team, however none of us knows what’s going on inside the building or the locker room. Only Team management knows which current Bills players have a problem (injury, attitude, contract), etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 yes please. he is quick, physical, amazing hands, and can run pretty much any route most well rounded WR to come out of the draft in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I guess this comes with the (rare) excitement of having a playoff season...but i can’t get into the mocks when we are picking late in the draft. There is just to much happening in front. I still want the bills to look at certain players obviously but these draft expert’s have no clue for the 20s. They barely get close on the top 5-10. I like of feel like we may move anyway. Probably up but hard to feel strong about anything with this team. They play it close to the vest. The only thing I know is, for the first time in forever I actually trust the guys in charge of picking players. That’s a good feeling. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: He was hurt much of season. Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL. Watch this piece on Laviska and his family. https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person. He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone. He is a amazing kid, with tough story. Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy. Smells like process. Looks like process. And what a heartbreaking story about his father. Would absolutely love to see him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. Is a 'pure' WR the same as a 'true' WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. I agree with everything here. Protect yourself by drafting a wr in the 2nd. This will help insulate any risk from Shenault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: yes please. he is quick, physical, amazing hands, and can run pretty much any route most well rounded WR to come out of the draft in years. Are you talking about the same guy? He has a very limited route tree, doesn’t run them particularly well, and he has poor technique coming off the line. He’s a physical freak, but well rounded he ain’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Billl said: Are you talking about the same guy? He has a very limited route tree, doesn’t run them particularly well, and he has poor technique coming off the line. He’s a physical freak, but well rounded he ain’t. Indeed. Laviska is a RB playing WR right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. I am not sold on taking a wide receiver with the first two picks. I do want one early and then another one late. One guy I am keeping an eye on is Lawrence Cager out of UGA. Cager transferred from Miami and had an up and down year with UGA due to injuries. He is 6’5 220. I want to see how he runs since a late season ankle injury. Cager is a day three UFA with a ton of potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said: He was hurt much of season. Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL. Watch this piece on Laviska and his family. https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person. He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone. He is a amazing kid, with tough story. Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy. ^ This. My son goes to CU and I have seen Shenault play in person a couple times and many times on TV. As Billsflyer12 said, he is an excellent athlete but seems to be injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 ...don't get to see college ball, so I read our valued TBD'ers well versed with collegiate ball......would this kid be the consensus pick or are there better options at 22?...thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If he is a “Swiss army knife” type of player then he may be a luxury pick for us. I looked at the film and he will be a excellent #2 on a team with a great #1. Tee Higgins looks more like what we need. But I am no scout so I’ll defer to Beane. WRs are tough to figure out. Plus McBeane look for “Buffalo guys” so there is that element. I see the biggest needs as: 1. Big physical beast of a WR that is a real #1 and a threat at all times. 2. Edge rushes LB/DE - replace Lorax and add to sack total. With so many good WRs in this draft I could see picking defense first, then WR. I could see trading down to increase our picks in round 2 and 3. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Estro said: I don't particularly like Shenault as a WR prospect. He seems more athlete than refined WR to me kind of like Cordarelle Patterson was coming out of Tennessee. To me there is a lot of risk that he never becomes a dominant WR and is just more of as gadget player. Yeah Patterson looked and played like Shenault and got pushed up the board for the same reasons. Explosive athlete but had shown about as little NFL WR type projection as Shenault............ but it was like "well at least he can be a great return guy or gadget guy if he doesn't develop". Those traits actually add little value. A gadget/KOR/PR is like a 6th round pick. But at least Patterson came from a relatively average WR class that was exceptionally short on deep speed. To some extent the reach was understandable. Hopkins/Woods/Keenan Allen/Stills..........that was pretty much everybody in that draft. This draft is so deep in everything at WR it would be a crime to use a first round pick on a guy like Shenault IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Penfield45 said: yes please. he is quick, physical, amazing hands, and can run pretty much any route most well rounded WR to come out of the draft in years. He’s not even the most well rounded in this draft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah Patterson looked and played like Shenault and got pushed up the board for the same reasons. Explosive athlete but had shown about as little NFL WR type projection as Shenault............ but it was like "well at least he can be a great return guy or gadget guy if he doesn't develop". Those traits actually add little value. A gadget/KOR/PR is like a 6th round pick. But at least Patterson came from a relatively average WR class that was exceptionally short on deep speed. To some extent the reach was understandable. Hopkins/Woods/Keenan Allen/Stills..........that was pretty much everybody in that draft. This draft is so deep in everything at WR it would be a crime to use a first round pick on a guy like Shenault IMO. Starting to feel exactly like this. He’s a fun toy, but the more I watch and read, we should select him at 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said: Is this guy ever right? My guess is he is right as much as anyone else is. But there may be some good data out there proving otherwise. I’ll say this much for him, he has become a bit of a joke over the past few years but this guy essentially invented the whole “draft pundit“ Industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SCBills said: I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. Let harrison Phillips walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SCBills said: I like the pick, but under certain scenarios. My ideal one.... Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency. Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson. Cut Murphy. Let Phillips walk. Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. A pure WR in the 2nd. RB in the 3rd. DT in the 4th. We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. I like your approach to free agency. As for the draft, I can not see Beane going WR with our first two picks. It's a good idea, and the Bills certainly can use all the help they can get at that position. Then again, Beane is unpredictable on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 About this same time in 2018, Kiper had the Browns taking Josh Allen #1 overall and the Giants taking Josh Rosen #2 overall. 2019 this time of year. Bosa to the Cardinals #1 overall. That Is All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaSquad Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Where does he have Ruggs going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said: He was hurt much of season. Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL. Watch this piece on Laviska and his family. https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person. He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone. He is a amazing kid, with tough story. Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy. I was thinking the same thing. Teams have a tendency to push down the draft value of guys that appear to be injury prone. With so many good WR's in this draft, he may slip to round two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 This Buffalo could really help Buffalo. And perhaps we wait on his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Indeed. Laviska is a RB playing WR right now. I don’t know, but is he like Tyreek Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, PIZ said: I don’t know, but is he like Tyreek Hill? No because he has NOTHING close to that speed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Even a broken watch is right 2x a day. Is this our time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Estro said: I don't particularly like Shenault as a WR prospect. He seems more athlete than refined WR to me kind of like Cordarelle Patterson was coming out of Tennessee. To me there is a lot of risk that he never becomes a dominant WR and is just more of as gadget player. How do you feel about Taysom Hill, considering the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I could go along with Kiper's prognostication...if Russ Brandon was still heading the show circa 2008. The decision to take Hardy (RIP) was total need. It speaks to the penchant for (credit to @BADOLBILZ) using their 2nd round picks across multiple regimes on needs. I know it's popular to project Buffalo taking a WR in RD1, but I still can see them focusing on a DE and then moving around the board for a WR. It's waaaay too early, but I could see that scenario playing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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