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10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Mock drafts this early are nuts but yeh to say he would be amazing in Buffalo is an understatement 


cool with this or Higgins (or a DE.) 

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One thing I appreciate about Beane is that I am basically sure that we won’t be drafting a CJ Spiller, McCargo or Maybin again. For me, that makes the draft all the more fun. 
 

Last year I was somewhat stunned with the Singletary pick but, as per usual, Beane was right. My point is, whomever they pick, it has a high probability of being the right pick!

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I’m fine with that if Beane thinks it’s the right pick. I like Beanes style for drafting.  Beane goes into the draft with targets and then figures out how to get them as the draft evolves. 

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His highlight reel looks good but only 4 receiving TDs last year?

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Is this guy ever right?

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Shenault Jr from the Colorado Buffaloes would be a good fit here. I've seen him going as high as #13 in a mock. The combine will fine tune the draft position.

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38 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Is this guy ever right?

Well he sat on nfl live last spring and got made fun of by the whole panel when he stuck his neck out for Allen and predicted Allen and the team would do well. Been posted on here a couple times..... so there’s that I guess 

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38 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Is this guy ever right?

Well, here's a list of his biggest misses. To be fair, a lot of people missed on these guys. Add to the list Chris Spielman, who he saw as a decent player who would go in 4th or 5th round. In fairness to him, a lot of folks missed on these guys. But Mel is clearly not a man of his word, saying about Jimmy Clausen "If he is not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I'm done. That's it. I'm out."

https://www.thesportster.com/football/mel-kipers-top-15-biggest-draft-mistakes/

 

The only one able to accurately predict Bills top picks is Berman's cabbie.

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I don't particularly like Shenault as a WR prospect.  He seems more athlete than refined WR to me kind of like Cordarelle Patterson was coming out of Tennessee.  To me there is a lot of risk that he never becomes a dominant WR and is just more of as gadget player.  

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1 hour ago, eball said:

His highlight reel looks good but only 4 receiving TDs last year?

 

He was hurt much of season.  Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL.


Watch this piece on Laviska and his family.

 

https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado

 

I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person.  He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone.

 

He is a amazing kid, with tough story.  Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy.

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I like the pick, but under certain scenarios.
 

My ideal one.... 
 

Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency.  Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson.  Cut Murphy.  Let Phillips walk.  

Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. 
 

A pure WR in the 2nd. 
 

RB in the 3rd. 
 

DT in the 4th. 


We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. 

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1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

 

Last year I was somewhat stunned with the Singletary pick but, as per usual, Beane was right. My point is, whomever they pick, it has a high probability of being the right pick!

What the Singletary pick shows is that fans and pundits can make Mock Drafts based on what they see as needs of any team, however none of us knows what’s going on inside the building or the locker room. Only Team management knows which current Bills players have a problem (injury, attitude, contract), etc. 

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yes please. he is quick, physical, amazing hands, and can run pretty much any route

 

most well rounded WR to come out of the draft in years. 

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I guess this comes with the (rare) excitement of having a playoff season...but i can’t get into the mocks when we are picking late in the draft. There is just to much happening in front. I still want the bills to look at certain players obviously but these draft expert’s have no clue for the 20s. They barely get close on the top 5-10. I like of feel like we may move anyway. Probably up but hard to feel strong about anything with this team. They play it close to the vest. The only thing I know is, for the first time in forever I actually trust the guys in charge of picking players. That’s a good feeling.

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58 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

 

He was hurt much of season.  Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL.


Watch this piece on Laviska and his family.

 

https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado

 

I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person.  He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone.

 

He is a amazing kid, with tough story.  Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy.

Smells like process. Looks like process.

And what a heartbreaking story about his father. Would absolutely love to see him here. 

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I like the pick, but under certain scenarios.
 

My ideal one.... 
 

Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency.  Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson.  Cut Murphy.  Let Phillips walk.  

Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. 
 

A pure WR in the 2nd. 
 

RB in the 3rd. 
 

DT in the 4th. 


We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. 

Is a 'pure' WR the same as a 'true' WR?

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I like the pick, but under certain scenarios.
 

My ideal one.... 
 

Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency.  Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson.  Cut Murphy.  Let Phillips walk.  

Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. 
 

A pure WR in the 2nd. 
 

RB in the 3rd. 
 

DT in the 4th. 


We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. 

I agree with everything here. Protect yourself by drafting a wr in the 2nd. This will help insulate any risk from Shenault. 

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46 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

yes please. he is quick, physical, amazing hands, and can run pretty much any route

 

most well rounded WR to come out of the draft in years. 

Are you talking about the same guy?  He has a very limited route tree, doesn’t run them particularly well, and he has poor technique coming off the line.  He’s a physical freak, but well rounded he ain’t.

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7 minutes ago, Billl said:

Are you talking about the same guy?  He has a very limited route tree, doesn’t run them particularly well, and he has poor technique coming off the line.  He’s a physical freak, but well rounded he ain’t.


Indeed. Laviska is a RB playing WR right now.

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

I like the pick, but under certain scenarios.
 

My ideal one.... 
 

Get us a RT & EDGE in Free Agency.  Re-sign Shaq Lawson, Quinton Spain & Kevin Johnson.  Cut Murphy.  Let Phillips walk.  

Draft Swiss army knife Shenault in the 1st. 
 

A pure WR in the 2nd. 
 

RB in the 3rd. 
 

DT in the 4th. 


We don’t have a need for all our picks so I’d expect later picks to be used as draft ammo to move around. 

I am not sold on taking a wide receiver with the first two picks. I do want one early and then another one late. One guy I am keeping an eye on is Lawrence Cager out of UGA. Cager transferred from Miami and had an up and down year with UGA due to injuries. He is 6’5 220. I want to see how he runs since a late season ankle injury. Cager is a day three UFA with a ton of potential.

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1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said:

 

He was hurt much of season.  Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL.


Watch this piece on Laviska and his family.

 

https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado

 

I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person.  He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone.

 

He is a amazing kid, with tough story.  Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy.

 

^ This.  My son goes to CU and I have seen Shenault play in person a couple times and many times on TV.  As Billsflyer12 said, he is an excellent athlete but seems to be injury prone.

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...don't get to see college ball, so I read our valued TBD'ers well versed with collegiate ball......would this kid be the consensus pick or are there better options at 22?...thanks....

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If he is a “Swiss army knife” type of player then he may be a luxury pick for us.  I looked at the film and he will be a excellent #2 on a team with a great #1.  Tee Higgins looks more like what we need.  But I am no scout so I’ll defer to Beane.  WRs are tough to figure out.   Plus McBeane look for “Buffalo guys” so there is that element.  
 

I see the biggest needs as: 
 

1. Big physical beast of a WR that is a real #1 and a threat at all times.  
2. Edge rushes LB/DE - replace Lorax and add to sack total.  
 

With so many good WRs in this draft I could see picking defense first, then WR.  I could see trading down to increase our picks in round 2 and 3.  
 

 

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2 hours ago, Estro said:

I don't particularly like Shenault as a WR prospect.  He seems more athlete than refined WR to me kind of like Cordarelle Patterson was coming out of Tennessee.  To me there is a lot of risk that he never becomes a dominant WR and is just more of as gadget player.  

 

 

Yeah Patterson looked and played like Shenault and got pushed up the board for the same reasons.    Explosive athlete but had shown about as little NFL WR type projection as Shenault............ but it was like "well at least he can be a great return guy or gadget guy if he doesn't develop".

 

 Those traits actually add little value.   A gadget/KOR/PR is like a 6th round pick.

 

 But at least Patterson came from a relatively average WR class that was exceptionally short on deep speed.    To some extent the reach was understandable.  Hopkins/Woods/Keenan Allen/Stills..........that was pretty much everybody in that draft.    

 

This draft is so deep in everything at WR it would be a crime to use a first round pick on a guy like Shenault IMO.

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