finn Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 No 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 thats what duke williams is 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Common man!!! Enough of this crap.... 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I won’t fault the Ford pick at 38... Look at all the “experts” on nfl.com final mock drafts... They all had him going in the first round.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilton Bills Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Whoa. Stop now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I still like the Ford pick, at worst you kick him into the LG position next year and let Spain walk. Ideally you could have an O-line of : Dawkins-Ford-Mitch-Feliciano-Ty (and draft a RT again to push Ty.) I would have preferred the team package some picks with the pick that was used on Singletary to go up and get DK as he was falling into the late 50's instead of taking him around pick 40. I however would still rather have Cody who has shown to be a pretty capable guard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I preferred Risner. Anyway if they play Cody in his position he could turn out really well. There has been a bit of a thing the last few years for playing newly drafted OL out of position. Play to his strengths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Ford has played 5 games. Let's all settle down 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seoulofstone said: I preferred Risner. Anyway if they play Cody in his position he could turn out really well. There has been a bit of a thing the last few years for playing newly drafted OL out of position. Play to his strengths. Right. Ford could still turn out to be a monster, especially at guard. I do liked Duke a lot, too. He's ferocious and hungry, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Common man!!! Enough of this crap.... Fortunately, it’s not THAT common. This is.....”special”. ? It’s way too soon to make this call. Five games in an NFL career, playing in a completely new group at OL, I’d say it’s too early to judge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Ford is a NFL starting lineman. Just don't know if it will be RT, G, or C. Give it time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Fortunately, it’s not THAT common. This is.....”special”. ? It’s way too soon to make this call. Five games in an NFL career, playing in a completely new group at OL, I’d say it’s too early to judge. Its a very high bar we have here.. Not only do they have to hit on every draft pick ( seems they are hitting on several), they have to all come in and play lights out immediately .. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Metcalf has been that deep threat for Seahawks the Bills are definitely needing now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Thank you, Captain Hindsight. It was a good pick on draft day, and it's not a bust situation yet by any means. Edited October 12, 2019 by skibum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? I remember character being mentioned somewhere regards metcalfe. That plays into this regimes thinking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Just now, the skycap said: Metcalf has been that deep threat for Seahawks the Bills are definitely needing now It appears that they thought Foster was going to have that role... Maybe he can still get there after this latest injury.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: Metcalf has been that deep threat for Seahawks the Bills are definitely needing now hasnt that been John Brown his entire career? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I hope you realize Metcalf’s muscles are about to burst, if he does any more lifting. He will be on IR indefinitely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, london_bills said: I remember character being mentioned somewhere regards metcalfe. That plays into this regimes thinking Another criticism of Metcalfe was limited pass route development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Did you guys know we could have drafted Patrick Mahomes? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? Yes they should have taken Metcalf. His skillset would have been a perfect fit with Allen. He leads the NFL in ypc and passes thrown to him average 19 air yards......which is A LOT.......for folks who doe-no. Cody Ford is a guard. You REALLY gotta' be good at an interior position like guard to be worthy of a first or second round pick. Those rounds are where you need to get your edge talent(if you aren't drafting a QB)...........you can get good guards in free agency. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? You have decided that he is not good based on one month of football? Especially when he should probably be a guard? Give him some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? Do you think every other team whiffed or just us? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? So have you applied to the Bills for the I know more than the staff opening ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, White Linen said: Do you think every other team whiffed or just us? Just us. We’re definitely the only ones. Probably should have taken him in the 1st instead of Oliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 56 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Ford has played 5 games. Let's all settle down With the same feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 5 weeks in and now this? Really? Let's give it some time before we decide. This whole "snap-judgement" mindset drives me nuts. Frankly, it doesn't make sense. Talk to me after two years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, finn said: I'm not usually a big fan of hindsight drafting, and I think Beane et all have done a great job overall drafting high-character, high-motor guys. But I do think they might have whiffed when they drafted Cody Ford instead of WR DK Metcalf in the second round last year. It's too early to be sure, and Ford could eventually become a monster, but we really could use a big, fast receiver like Metcalf, and we already had a nicely developing guard in Wyatt Teller. (Yes, they were/are hoping Ford will be RT, but his feet seem just too slow for that position.) I'll take a whiff in the second for a hit in virtually every other draft spot, but, let's face it, they seem to have blown it in the second. Do you agree? I never like the pick then and hate it even more now, should have taken Metcalf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, todd said: 5 weeks in and now this? Really? Let's give it some time before we decide. This whole "snap-judgement" mindset drives me nuts. Frankly, it doesn't make sense. Talk to me after two years. 2 years ago I said Bills should have taken Chris Godwin instead of trading up for Zay. it was right then and it’s right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) I loved the Cody Ford pick at the time, but I would have liked Mecalf too, and honestly Metcalf is looking like the better choice after a whopping total of five games. Let's give Ford a chance to settle in and find a place on the line, and we can address WR next year in a draft stacked at the position. Edited October 12, 2019 by BillsFanSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Reader said: Did you guys know we could have drafted Patrick Mahomes? Tom Brady too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Noob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Far far too early to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I’m still pissed we didn’t draft Brady. Fire someone for ***** sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 So the Bye week generates threads calling rookies busts after 5 NFL games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 There are Two constants in the universe, 1) hydrogen, 2) stupidity Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Christ! When will it stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 It’s not hindsight if you wanted metcalf. He’s playing pretty well. The Bills biggest need is WR for at least two years now and some people here realize that. Go go back to the draft threads and you’ll see the same ppl insulting the OP saying they’d like to see what we have in Robert Foster before drafting a WR. Well, he couldn’t beat out Zay Jones in the depth chart to start the season. Go back even further and you may see them say it’s too early to call Zay a bust after one terrible season and an offseason embarrassment. Its always too too early to call someone a bust until he’s traded for a future 5th. And then it’s in the past let it go man. Look at at how many WR have been drafted for the young QBs in the league. Allen has Zay the year before him and then 6/7th round and undrafted talent. Meanwhile mahomes, Murray, Jackson, etc have multiple young WR drafted with them or after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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