Mahomes crying

[Malazan]

I've said from the start that Mahomes is fake. He's had had an amazing PR team and was drafted into an incredible situation situation. He *is* his brother and his wife. It's not an accident that two of the most annoying and vile hangerons in the NFL are his..

Edited December 26, 2023 by Malazan

[Buffalo Super Fan]

Remember when so many NFL football fans and many in the sports media were crowning Patrick Mahomes as the next Tom Brady. And will he break Tom Brady’s number of Super Bowls? Of course he won’t because one Tom Brady comes along once a decade and two there are more good quarterbacks now today compared to when Tom Brady was playing in the NFL just in the AFC East alone the quarterback position is loaded with only the New England Patriots ironically not having a quarterback today in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Buffalo Super Fan

[RunTheBall]

Come on guys, Mahomes is clearly a better QB than Josh. Josh is clearly a better leader and I’d rather have Josh as our QB 100%. 

 

It’s kind of like Kelly/Marino. Marino was a better pure QB, Kelly was a better leader.

 

What we are seeing in Mahomes is a guy who has NEVER had to face adversity. His true character is starting to show and it’s not the polished, friendly, good dude the league PR team pushed for years. He’s emerging as a whiney, entitled, arrogant douche who thinks he deserves special treatment from the refs, fans, and league in general. Any doubt of this was eliminated with his response to losing to us and Reid’s response as well.

 

With that hideous wife, obnoxious brother, and his HOF TE more concerned with Yoko Swift than his diminishing production I’d be a little salty too.

 

Josh needs a ring and he’ll be elevated to that level in the national discourse, which I couldn’t care less about (the discourse, not the ring. We deserve a SB win).

 

[Cubanmist 1]

Remember when Allen had crappy receivers? How many times did he bicker? 

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I can't really believe it, but Flacco is playing better now than at any point since his weird/outlier 2012 Super Bowl playoff run. They would be toast if Watson hadn't been injured again.

 

That's not saying a whole lot though.

 

 

[BigDingus]

I know I won't be popular for saying it, but I still have a ton of respect & praise for Mahomes as a player & person. 

 

HATE, HATE, HAAAATE him when it comes to playing against him or the excuses made for him in the media, but as a dude, he's cool. 

 

I watched him every game in college, went to most all the home games, know many people who met him during that time, and everyone I know has only said positive things about him. He's always been a vocal & intense competitor, so all the yelling on the sidelines is no big deal. Diggs is like that too. 

 

But do I feel bad that he's struggling this year? HAHAHAHA! Helllll no! The more losses the better! Sorry Patty, can't win em all! 😁

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

But he currently isn't the best QB playing in the league.

Define currently.  I think you can absolute make a case that this year he is the best QB playing. 

At this point I don’t think anyone is taking Purdy seriously after tonight. Sorry, you can’t be 0-4 and consistently have your worse games when your supporting cast is not 100%

 

such a weird year all around for QB’s across the league. Not saying Allen will win the MVP. He still has an uphill battle because that is such a team success dependent award typically. 
 

But Allen is third in QBR, one of only three QB’s this year with a 70+ QBR. The two QB’s ahead of him in QBR, (Purdy and Dak) despite having great seasons, appear to be heavily flawed QB’s trending in the wrong direction as the season winds down. 
 

Then you have Lamar, he is having a good season, but not even close to a great season. 

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

Mahomes getting a taste of what Josh Allen dealt with most of his career. 

and he has not learned how Allen has dealt it with class.  Josh will never throw anyone under the bus.

[mykidsdad]

3 hours ago, Cubanmist 1 said:

Remember when Allen had crappy receivers? How many times did he bicker? 

So true! And Josh Allen’s hc is a dc at heart. JA is special on and off the field.

[SoMAn]

7 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Yup, and he's not handling it well at all.

 

Allen has the stronger arm, doesn't act like a spoiled brat that's owed something, and his voice doesn't sound weird.

 

We have the better quarterback.

You forgot to mention Allen doesn’t walk like a girl

[TonyBeets]

All your have to do is look where the guy came from.  Not exactly humble beginnings.  Dad was pro baseball player, always had everything he wanted.  God given talent on top of it, of course he's not exactly dealing with actual adversity.

[Since1981]

See how these QB1s all look without WR2?

welcome to Josh’s world !!

[Dablitzkrieg]

Mahomes has regressed.   He's a turnover machine.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

11 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Adversity reveals character. We now see his true character.

I can't stand just about anything Mahomes related, but really- life is that simple?

[Gregg]

The "homefield advantage" of Arrowhead is dead this year. Week 1 Lions 21 Chiefs 20 in KC. The last three Chiefs home games had the Eagles, Bills, and Raiders all winning at Arrowhead. Four losses overall at home by KC this year.

[eball]

It’s funny to me when we have supposed Bills fans on this board who seem to think they need to carry on crusades for other teams/players (I’m looking at you, @thenorthremembers).  I’m pretty satisfied right now knowing the Chiefs are going to have to win at least one road playoff game to get to the Super Bowl.  I won’t ever discount Mahomes but clearly that offense is a shell of its former self.

 

I don’t need to tell myself Josh is “better” than Mahomes, and Kermit’s accomplishments to date are unprecedented, but anyone watching the games can see that right now Josh is playing at a higher level.  Mahomes has the best defense he has had at KC and they have their worst record.

 

All of my focus right now is on two 1:00 games on Sunday that will be on side-by-side screens.

 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I am here for a bit of Kermit eating humble pie. I hate say "Josh would never..." because I would like to give Josh some slack if it ever happens. 

What I'll say is that if Diggs got caught on a hot mic like Mahomes has been he would be getting absolutely roasted by that national media. There would be a flurry of stories about how the Bills are doomed, about a toxic locker room, etc.

9 hours ago, Warcodered said:

They won the division the year he was on the team and he wasn't starting and the year before he was on the team.

The core (now aging) that Mahomes stepped in and had immediate success with had been division champions in 2016 and 2017 before Mahomes took the helm in 2018. Mahomes got to ride the pine for a year and learn from arguably the one coach whose success rivals Belicheck. (Bill has the championships with Brady and looked sup par without him, Reid has had success with various QBs and has a much better coaching family tree).

 

He stepped into an ideal situation from his first start. If things stand, this is likely the first year he plays playoff game in a hostile stadium (or gets bounced in the wild card round). This really is the most adversity he's faced.

 

And he's still going to waltz to a #3 seed.

Edited December 26, 2023 by WhitewalkerInPhilly

[Peace Frog]

[JerseyBills]

Mahomes has looked mediocre at best for 2 months now. 

Kelce clearly not the same and he can't do nothing without him

[Buffalo Boy]

10 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

There is no argument to be made that says he has. 

“Stats are for losers”

How about that argument ?

In the absence of context, they sure do look good though😕

[Gregg]

8 hours ago, Malazan said:

I've said from the start that Mahomes is fake. He's had had an amazing PR team and was drafted into an incredible situation situation. He *is* his brother and his wife. It's not an accident that two of the most annoying and vile hangerons in the NFL are his..

 

Show some respect for the Most Valuable Bundler. MVB baby!!! 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Mahomes isn’t use to losing.

[Scott7975]

9 hours ago, Rico said:

What if Lamar loses a playoff game to Joe Flacco? Joe’s revenge. 

 

I didn't even think about that.  That would be pretty freaking awesome!

[Gregg]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Mahomes isn’t use to losing.

 

What about Kelce slamming his helmet to the ground. He seems like another crybaby.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

Clearly this isn't about Mahomes crying, this is about a very high standard set that is suddenly not there at all, and he's tired of the constant failure to meet the standard.

 

While he has failed to adapt to it and should shoulder some of the blame for yesterday, the GM clearly has left him in a position where the receiving corps is an absolute s-show when you draft like Billy B for WRs, let a guy like JuJu go and bring in a guy who couldn't even hang with the Giants in Toney.

 

I echo the comment made where he now has to experience what Josh has had to experience and he can't overcome it. I imagine Brady would have thrown fits similar to Pat if he didn't have reliable pass catchers outside of Gronk... and you all know he would have.

Edited December 26, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[NewEra]

7 hours ago, BigDingus said:

I know I won't be popular for saying it, but I still have a ton of respect & praise for Mahomes as a player & person. 

 

HATE, HATE, HAAAATE him when it comes to playing against him or the excuses made for him in the media, but as a dude, he's cool. 

 

I watched him every game in college, went to most all the home games, know many people who met him during that time, and everyone I know has only said positive things about him. He's always been a vocal & intense competitor, so all the yelling on the sidelines is no big deal. Diggs is like that too. 

 

But do I feel bad that he's struggling this year? HAHAHAHA! Helllll no! The more losses the better! Sorry Patty, can't win em all! 😁

Are you a red raider fan?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

What about Kelce slamming his helmet to the ground. He seems like another crybaby.

Same thing. Not use to things not going their way on the football field. 

[MiltonWaddams]

14 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

What about Kelce slamming his helmet to the ground. He seems like another crybaby.

Nah. If our guys do that, it’s frustration and passion. It’s not a double standard because it’s Kelce. You’d take him and his helmet toss on this team every day.

[Scott7975]

It would be funny if KC found a way to lose and they would miss the playoffs after all the talk about Buffalo missing.  The world might explode.  I mean, it could happen.  KC is playing like ass right now and the Bengals are no pushover even without Burrow.  Chargers can play pretty tough.  Never know.

[C.Biscuit97]

I mean most qbs cry. Brady cried. Rivers cried. Allen flops to sell calls. 
 

dude isn’t used to losing and is acting like a baby. They have surrounded him with the one of the worst offensive groups and it has to be frustrating. 

30 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

What about Kelce slamming his helmet to the ground. He seems like another crybaby.

Yeah, that was weirder to me. I’m not even sure what he was mad about.

[mannc]

13 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

I have always been a huge fan of his both on and off the field 

Why?

[jethro_tull]

wow, another episode of as the crybaby turns.  the public and his team can forgive one instance but this one is going to sting.  his team support and advertising likeability are imploding before our eyes.  not quite the affable stoic hero any more.  

[Rico]

52 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I didn't even think about that.  That would be pretty freaking awesome!

Two teams the Ravens want no part of are the Bills and the Browns, and not in that order.

Edited December 26, 2023 by Rico

[DJB]

Always knew he was a giant douche and baby and now the rest of the media and Nation sees it too

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, eball said:

It’s funny to me when we have supposed Bills fans on this board who seem to think they need to carry on crusades for other teams/players (I’m looking at you, @thenorthremembers).  I’m pretty satisfied right now knowing the Chiefs are going to have to win at least one road playoff game to get to the Super Bowl.  I won’t ever discount Mahomes but clearly that offense is a shell of its former self.

 

I don’t need to tell myself Josh is “better” than Mahomes, and Kermit’s accomplishments to date are unprecedented, but anyone watching the games can see that right now Josh is playing at a higher level.  Mahomes has the best defense he has had at KC and they have their worst record.

 

All of my focus right now is on two 1:00 games on Sunday that will be on side-by-side screens.

 

I think I said it in one of my posts, maybe not, but I'd love to see Josh be the greatest of all time when he is done.  I loathe the Chiefs, and would very much like to see them fall off the face of the NFL landscape.   

 

But, the question asked was why everyone thinks Mahomes is better than Allen, and I am not going to let my Fandom completely cloud my ability to have a real conversation.  And to this point in their careers Mahomes has been better in every category.  The conversation was never strictly about this year.   

 

Letting your emotional connection to something get in the way of your ability to understand reason and logic is a really bad way to go through life.   I've been a Bills fan for 35 years, have coached football for the last 10.  Never thought I'd have my allegiance and football knowledge ripped apart because I had the audacity to say a guy with multiple Super Bowl wins and MVPs is a little better than Josh. 

 

 If it makes you guys feel better I've bought spent hundreds of dollars on Josh Allen merchandise for my family and truly think Mahomes looks like Darlene from Roseanne.

Edited December 26, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[Beck Water]

13 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I've thought for years that the Mahomes we see publicly is a mix of success and very carefully crafted PR department work. His sense of entitlement just really chaps my ass.

 

I think that's probably true of every NFL star.  I don't for a minute expect that the Josh Allen face we see and the carefully crafted words he says, are the same he is every moment of the day and in private.  Do you?

 

But yes, Mahomes has had great success and it does seem to have bred a sense of entitlement there.

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think that's probably true of every NFL star.  I don't for a minute expect that the Josh Allen face we see and the carefully crafted words he says, are the same he is every moment of the day and in private.  Do you?

 

But yes, Mahomes has had great success and it does seem to have bred a sense of entitlement there.

I agree 100%. No one is who they are in front of the camera in the NFL. I would offer up that there are some guys that are closer to the role they show in interviews, however. Allen would be one that seems a bit more genuine. Dak Prescott is another. Of course, full transparency, I thought Watson was a class act at the start of his career as well, so to your point you never really know.  

[WideNine]

I love the idea that he was crapping on his O-Line on national TV.

 

I can see the wheels turning now for some of those guys... "what free rusher?".

 

Adversity brings out the best and the worst in folks. Seeing it play out in KC this season and where is Mahomes ownership throwing that weak pick six with that defender watching his eyes all the way?

 

 

 

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

11 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Depends on how it happens…that chiefs defense is really good and it’s the reason they’ve been winning this year 

 

It’s not just a rough patch for the kc offense….theyve looked off all season 

Maybe Bienemy was a better coach than we thought 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, WideNine said:

I love the idea that he was crapping on his O-Line on national TV.

 

I can see the wheels turning now for some of those guys... "what free rusher?".

 

Adversity brings out the best and the worst in folks. Seeing it play out in KC this season and where is Mahomes ownership throwing that weak pick six with that defender watching his eyes all the way?

 

 

 

 

 

How was he crapping on his oline? Have you ever played football? Those conversations have multiple times a game. He bought them custom golf carts and tried motivating them to play better. I would love to be crapped on like that. 

1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Maybe Bienemy was a better coach than we thought 

He is. The fact he is making Sam Howell look like a passable nfl starter is proof enough.