I'm Spartacus Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 The Bills seem to really like this guy. If he makes the final roster, what might be the fate of Basham and/or Epinessa? Your thoughts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Do they “like” him anymore than Basham and AJ? Just asking the question… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Do they “like” him anymore than Basham and AJ? Just asking the question… There ya went and did it, poof the whole premise up in smoke…, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 He will be the next Mike Love. Around the team for years, occasionally on it. 2 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He will be the next Mike Love. Around the team for years, occasionally on it. Sounds about right If given the chance he probably produces as much as Epenesa and Basham at a fraction of the cost. Still seems unlikely at this point. If Miller was healthy they might be more willing to move on from Epenesa nad Basham but with Miller likely going to PUP they are likely to keep the two guys that they drafted and know the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: The Bills seem to really like this guy. If he makes the final roster, what might be the fate of Basham and/or Epinessa? Your thoughts... Basham has actually looked decent in the preseason IMO. If he's not traded I think he makes it. Epenesa hasn't really stood out to me at all...but he did have 6.5 sacks last year in limited time. I'm betting KJ is part of the initial cuts and they try and get him back for the PS. I really like the guy and hope it works out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Going to be tough cutdown day for the dlime. If the cut Jonathan someone will ***** him up quick. I don’t think Practice Roster is an option for him this year. He’s improved a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Sounds about right If given the chance he probably produces as much as Epenesa and Basham at a fraction of the cost. Still seems unlikely at this point. If Miller was healthy they might be more willing to move on from Epenesa nad Basham but with Miller likely going to PUP they are likely to keep the two guys that they drafted and know the system. He makes about 800k base salary. Basham and A.J. about 1.5 or so. Not really significant savings. Not sure I would move on from either of them but I might trade Lawson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 They'll cut him and re-sign him to the PS. The man is green as a football player. When re-signed they should work him as a MLB. If nothing else at 6'4" 260 he'd be imposing in the middle and the team seems lacking and small at that position. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I’d honestly rather move AJE over anyone else, purely due to his contract status with only one year left in his rookie deal. Maybe he’s shown a lot in practice.. he just seems to disappear in preseason games, which was an issue last year despite decent sack numbers. We head into next year without any money as it stands, a bunch of guys on one year / last year of deals, and on the DL, only 3 guys under contract if we trade Basham. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’d honestly rather move AJE over anyone else, purely due to his contract status with only one year left in his rookie deal. Maybe he’s shown a lot in practice.. he just seems to disappear in preseason games, which was an issue last year despite decent sack numbers. We head into next year without any money as it stands, a bunch of guys on one year / last year of deals, and on the DL, only 3 guys under contract if we trade Basham. Who would want AJE and what would they give with everything you said? He’s done enough to probably not be a vet min guy in FA. Which means he will count in the comp pick formula, and keep in mind that Gabe will likely be getting paid elsewhere. AJE has more value on the roster so we can try to get a third when Gabe walks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: They'll cut him and re-sign him to the PS. The man is green as a football player. When re-signed they should work him as a MLB. If nothing else at 6'4" 260 he'd be imposing in the middle and the team seems lacking and small at that position. Our team/FO just seems love these 6'0" 225 converted safeties. It reminds me of Dick Jauron 2006-2009 Keith Ellison, John Wendling, Coy Wire, Alvin Bowen, Nic Harris, Marcus Buggs, John Digiorgio, Ashley Palmer 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: They'll cut him and re-sign him to the PS. The man is green as a football player. When re-signed they should work him as a MLB. If nothing else at 6'4" 260 he'd be imposing in the middle and the team seems lacking and small at that position. So he's green as a football player, but they should put him in an entirely different position than he's ever played on and see how that goes at the NFL level? Sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Basham has actually looked decent in the preseason IMO. If he's not traded I think he makes it. Epenesa hasn't really stood out to me at all...but he did have 6.5 sacks last year in limited time. I'm betting KJ is part of the initial cuts and they try and get him back for the PS. I really like the guy and hope it works out. careful on Basham- he is mostly playing against future amazon drivers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillyG Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Robert Paulson said: careful on Basham- he is mostly playing against future amazon drivers When people say this it always reminds me of a guy we had a few years back. A RB. Flashed a bit late in preseason games. Thought to myself...ah...good for him but he'll be out of the league next week. He's looking good against the other grocery clerks. Guy just kept playing. Next thing you know the fella actually had a spot on the team and made a former 1st rounder at his position expendable. Point is, they have to start somewhere and some players use the opportunity to get their reps in, hone their craft a bit and make improvements. While it's easy to see a guy like Basham as a waste due to draft status, sometimes guys just take a bit longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I thought he had a JAGish camp? At least that is what I have heard. They guy I have heard played up some is Cam Kline. I definitely think they could trade Basham if an offer was there. I hear Shaq is in danger but down the stretch last year the guy was pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Needs a big game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 He won't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) He's what Brandin Bryant was for us but at the DE position. A talent they like and they'll bring in to camp yearly, just to be released and put on the Practice Squad and be called up when there's an injuries. With the guys we have at DE and the investments we've made in them, even with Von on PUP, there's no room on the 53 for him. Epenesa isn't going anywhere this season. Basham could be traded if someone makes an offer, but I think it's more likely they'll keep him with Floyd, Epenesa, and Lawson all on 1 year deals this season. Edited August 25, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I sat on his name for a beat when I did my last 53. Any of Jonathan, Epenesa, Basham, and Lawson could make the team or be punted to the moon. I'm not sure it makes much difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, wppete said: If the cut Jonathan someone will ***** him up quick. What are they gonna do to him??! Beat him up?? Poo on him?? Edited August 25, 2023 by Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Nope. Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I still have him off my 53 but damn close. The key factor is what they do w AJ. I think Basham will stick around. Also, keep in mind Cline plays ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I think it's a matter if they think they will lose hill to another team. Even then I'm not sure he would make the roster. I like him a lot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 hours ago, frostbitmic said: They'll cut him and re-sign him to the PS. The man is green as a football player. When re-signed they should work him as a MLB. If nothing else at 6'4" 260 he'd be imposing in the middle and the team seems lacking and small at that position. to paraphrase a poster from yesterday ( @FireChans i believe, in the breakdown of draft hits / misses) I think the days of having a Scarecrow on our defense are over. We appear to have moved on to a different philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Not a chance. Also, people unfairly group Epenesa and Basham. It's not fair to Epenesa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said: What are they gonna do to him??! Beat him up?? Poo on him?? I'm going to go with ***** ? Yep, s-n-a-t-c-h Edited August 25, 2023 by Simon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 5 hours ago, wppete said: Going to be tough cutdown day for the dlime. If the cut Jonathan someone will ***** him up quick. I don’t think Practice Roster is an option for him this year. He’s improved a lot. Huh. Looks like s n a t c h is censored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Huh. Looks like s n a t c h is censored. yeah. Hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 7 hours ago, That's No Moon said: He will be the next Mike Love. Around the team for years, occasionally on it. Nobody puts Beach Boy in a corner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 He could If they consider Kingsley Jonathan, anything close to boogie or AJ, they could be looking to move those guys at least one of them for draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, balln said: While he beat the Steelers first round pick in Jones, there was a reason Jones played into the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Kingsley Jonathon is certainly a good practice squad candidate. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I think he sticks around. Just a hunch, no rhyme or reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 He’s getting to the age - 25 - where it’s put up or shut up time. You can’t wait on a guy to hit 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCat Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Herb Nightly said: He makes about 800k base salary. Basham and A.J. about 1.5 or so. Not really significant savings. Not sure I would move on from either of them but I might trade Lawson. Who is going to want Shaq at his age & career stats? 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I think he sticks around. Just a hunch, no rhyme or reason. I have to agree. He has some special talents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECRET SQUIRREL Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Huh. Looks like s n a t c h is censored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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