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I used to care about this award. Never. Again. I thot it was like 50 lesser known guys like Vic carucci around the country voting. Real sports guys / girls. I also don’t care if anyone brings up mvp / all pro in describing the greatness of players - at least this generation and going forward

https://wtop.com/nfl/2024/02/panel-of-voters-for-ap-nfl-awards/ Haha ok. This is a joke. I thought it was like old school newspaper / beat sports guys. BRUSCHI! ACHO! edit : Vic is dead to me

For sure. I’m arguing mostly that the media award is going to be biased. Well …. Based on social media. And that stuff drives me nuts

I hear that. But as usual. The nfl hits their off season “point of emphasis” in the first half. Penalties everywhere. The masses and broadcast partners grumble. and then second half and playoffs. There’s absolutely nothing called. Point being these guys just get held. You can’t rely on pass rushers anymore. Unless they are an absolute freak that can win immediately. and second point - just draft offense.

Yea - I agree. Hes a top 16. DEFINITELY a top 20 pick. Do we have any shot of him at 28? ???? can this finally be the year where there are a million qbs taken so we can get some blue chippers?

Good response. I wrote the above before reading the last pages. Someone posted - happy days? The article Aaron schatz wrote- the lone Allen voter. That is full stop - mic drop - what everyone needs to read. It’s all there. Everything I’ve said. You better believe the twitter mob is real. He hints at it in the intro. But the analysis the methods the independent critical thinking is what I appreciate from him. It’s validates a lot of the Josh “walk on water “ arguments ppl have made here - correctly so in saying he just MIGHT actually be the mvp this year. In reality the mvp / awards stuff is a joke. Wins and Super Bowl are all that matter. Maybe I’m a little worked up now - but it’s the only thing now to cling to as our team isn’t playing Sunday It’s the 49-1 vote that’s startling.

I know what he is saying. Without diving into the record books. I would guess that the #1 seeds generally have a great qb. Or a great performing qb (stats). Lamar stats aren’t mvp imo and are akin to Tannehill. Where Lamar outdoes Tannehill is rushing which makes their offense “better” - more first downs / sustained drives / points. Lamar first mvp I think was legit. This year was clearly odd. You definitely had tua / purdy / cmc / tyreke love until the ravens niners game. A big national tv night game. The fact that Lamar had 49 first place votes out of 50? Pure media narrative bias. Or at best - they couldn’t give it to anyone else - no truly viable option. Dak? No way. Purdy can’t bc of the ravens game. CMC? Not a rb. In reality cmc probably is the MVP this year - great stats. Great weapon in pass and run. Their team and O look really bad when he doesn’t play. And oh. Great o. #1 seed. Race does account here. When you get a loud group of ppl in media and tv calling for Lamar for mvp. I’ll give you a big hint. ESPN - Swagu and Ryan Clark. He has a good / great game vs niners on national tv. The rest of those AP voters for mvp would get vilified if they didn’t pick Lamar - social media justice police would come after them. Not public vote but it’s subconscious now. It’s in their minds on some level. Of course Lamar didn’t win it bc they wanted to give it to a black guy. These things are complex and more subtle. And I’m not even saying it’s right or wrong. But it does have an effect

Def Vic Carucci

Youre making (unknowingly) the very strong argument for why Lamar isn’t the mvp - bc their D / coaching is so much better

Bc their defense , special teams and coaches are sub par especially relative to the ravens!

Looks like a dominant BAL D. Wonder what the turnover profile was in those games. How many short fields BAL get? Niners game Lamar had 2 wow plays. He also had a laughable safety / grounding call that doesn’t show up in the stats. Purdy threw up 4 times and they had 3 short fields. Other int was in the red zone Welll. On social media. Especially twitter. Josh Allen is hated. It’s incredible. And unfortunately the media and the 50 all pro voters all exist now in the twitter space…. And that’s why the race thing is fair to bring up for multiple reasons.

Yup. Should have been drafting replacement future serviceable starters depth players last two years. i DO not understand the shorter wr pick in the 4th round ! Or the tenuta OL pick. Shorter is NoT going to turn into anything. Not even special teams. really needed to draft a young safety or DL w some of those late picks.

So…. Basically need everything

Were getting a 3rd for losing edmunds

Correct. Can’t stand him. He’s a sociopath. And he’s getting weirder and weirder. The recent Michigan success - so what ? He can out recruit and get alumni to shell out money . I know I know. His resume is amazing.

He wants to leave the ncaa investigations and punishments bc he’s a cheater

I’ll go back and watch him in 13 seconds. its not just ONE bad game. He had a great season. Sometimes starters in the nfl have great performance and even multiple within one season. That doesn’t mean he’s a great player, All pro, Game wrecker. And that’s what he needed to be at pick 9. Were what 5-6 years in?

Nah rice is good. KC has once again (coaching) morphed their offense to fit the times and using a quick pass , screens . Hit the te and RBs and sprinkle in wr.

Oliver had 1 assisted tackle in the biggest game of the year. Before you say “well you can’t just look at box score.” Ok sure. I watched the game. I watched Oliver. Once again it looked like Cincy game last year where he gets OWNED in run game. so fine he’s a penetrating rusher. Where’s he affect the qb when it matters most ?

Seems like you just have an issue with me. I’m talking ball. Oliver is an average to above average rotational player

Niners win by 10

Gonna fire Wilkes and scapegoat him

I heard. Gasp. Jon Feliciano name called as he was run over