davefan66 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: nope, if you are that close with this offense, you go for it. With this offense? Have you not been watching the last few weeks? 3 hours ago, Bob Jones said: How do you know that MA hasn’t been working on that part of his game? I mean, he’s had a lot of free time, so I would assume that he’s not just sitting on the couch watching MeTV. And of course you can’t deny that he has one of the strongest legs in recent years. You did see that 80 yarder during the preseason, right? Yes. Saw the 80 yarder. That’s why in my post I said “net over 50”. Has he been working on short kicks? Hope so if he wants to stick on a team if he’s picked up. Edited November 7, 2023 by davefan66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, davefan66 said: With this offense? Have you not been watching the last few weeks? I have. I'd still go for it. Or just punt a touchback. Depends on where we are. Can't give teams like Cincy or other good offenses short fields, esp. with the current state of the D. Would rather be able to get out of our own end and then give a touchback on a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I mean this kindly and humbly, and with all sincerity: Punter is the absolute least of the Bills' worries. No punter on earth would change the Bills' record or fix their primary shortcomings this season. We can take the genetics of Ray Guy, Brian Moorman, Lionel Messi, and a kangaroo, put them in a petri dish, mix 'em up, and create a perfect Franken-punter, and it still won't fix what ails the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The legal stuff is old news. But I thought his civil trial was supposed to have started already. Did they cancel it for lack of evidence like they should have? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 hours ago, davefan66 said: Ok, dude would kill the ball from the 10 yard line and net over 50. Fine. Just wait until he is asked for a shorter coffin corner punt and he fails. Will there be “bring back Martin threads”? Proof that we should carry two punters. Oh, and bring back Taiwan Jones, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecos Bills Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Speak for yourself ****boi,, we're here to support Araiza, deal with it and eat your Crow! Change your diaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 He's a boomer, but Martin IS much better in directional punts and pinning teams inside the 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Ah gotcha. I still would have like them to state "innocent until proven guilty". Instead they caved to "me too" and media pressure. Kinda funny if the Bills would’ve said that, since they aren’t a criminal court and that evidentiary standard doesn’t apply to them at all. 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Hard pass -- just because he wasnt found guilty does not mean he was found innocent. Prosecuters declined to go after him based on single eye witness testimony from one of Arizas friends. So no one even had a chance to weigh his guilt really I couldn’t give less of a **** about Araiza either way, but this isn’t even close to the truth. There were a multitude of things that went into the prosecution’s decision not to pursue charges. The alleged victim was a trainwreck and not the least bit credible by witness standards. Multiple people disputed the alleged victim’s account, including people who know and did not know Araiza. Cell phone data and videos also contradicted her accounts, including her assertion that Araiza was present inside the house during the gang assault. Edited November 7, 2023 by JoPoy88 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Or ..... let's play offense where we don't need to punt 7 times in a row 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Here we go again with this. There was a MASSIVE thread about it when this news dropped months ago. But now we realize Martin is a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. 4 hours ago, Livinginthepast said: Araiza's civil trial wont be until February next year. So he will have to wait until then to have any chance of an NFL comeback. There's a good chance that he will be exonerated at that trial too. He should countersue imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: But now we realize Martin is a liability. Martin's not a liability... he hasn't cost us one single game. The fact that there is an obsession over a punter when we have so many more serious problems is disturbing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I was thinking of this a few weeks ago. Martin is hot and cold like a motel shower. Bringing in a zero experience punter who hasn’t played in 2 years will surely fix that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. He should countersue imho. Yeah but no other team signed him either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Sure. Bring back the punt g-d! If we can help remove the curse, I’d be all for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Bad offense leads to punter talk. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) Sweet gobbly-guck did I really fall asleep for a few minutes only to wake up and it is already May 2024 TSW? Edited November 7, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, without a drought said: Bad offense leads to punter talk. Reminds me of the drought years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Pecos Bills said: Change your diaper. You can do the honors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Martin's not a liability... he hasn't cost us one single game. The fact that there is an obsession over a punter when we have so many more serious problems is disturbing My post was an indictment of Martin, not in support of MA. Martin is great punting from the 30 yard line or better. He's old and his leg is limited. Not gonna save us if we start within our own 10-15 yard line (like we did three times versus Cincy) and go three and out. Cincy worked short fields all game and sent Martin a game ball. Edited November 7, 2023 by BuffaloMatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: I agree, Martin is not the answer. Our special teams has been terrible most of the season and we are always losing the field position game We suck in all three phases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: We suck in all three phases! Is this the balanced football McD has been talking about? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) I'm on board with this. When Martin isn't dropping it inside the 20, he's kicking right down the middle and opening us up to big returns. Let's bring back Punt God. He was unfairly accused, and the Bills should make it right. Edited November 7, 2023 by Freddie's Dead 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Dear lord. Out offense sucks this bad we have to go back to the awful days where a punter was our best player??? I haven’t thought about our punter once this season. also, for a guy who was screwed so bad, why are no other teams bringing him in? Punter talk is awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Kinda funny if the Bills would’ve said that, since they aren’t a criminal court and that evidentiary standard doesn’t apply to them at all. I couldn’t give less of a **** about Araiza either way, but this isn’t even close to the truth. There were a multitude of things that went into the prosecution’s decision not to pursue charges. The alleged victim was a trainwreck and not the least bit credible by witness standards. Multiple people disputed the alleged victim’s account, including people who know and did not know Araiza. Cell phone data and videos also contradicted her accounts, including her assertion that Araiza was present inside the house during the gang assault. Makes sense why we use the term not guilty in court and public opinion instead of innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 hours ago, bigK14094 said: I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. He should countersue imho. What an awful mess. If he's innocent and wasnt even present when the acts occurred then its a total injustice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Is this the balanced football McD has been talking about? Why yes it is 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, bigK14094 said: I am thinking that if he returns to the NFL, he may well not want to be with the Bills who canned him without due process. I know I would not return to such an employer. Well, 31 other possible employers aren't beating down his door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, loyal2dagame said: Well, 31 other possible employers aren't beating down his door. His civil trial is still pending. No one's signing him before it's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 19 hours ago, CSBill said: One week ago, Sam Martin had the best punting game of the year in the NFL; this week, we're ready to ditch him. People? Special teams players of the week Sam Martin, punter, Buffalo. In an odd way, Martin had one of the most impactful games a punter ever could have Thursday night against Tampa Bay. Amazing that Martin is in here, seeing that he never booted the football for the first 39 minutes of Buffalo’s 24-18 win. His first punt, with 20 minutes left in the game, pinned Tampa at its 3-yard line. His second punt, with 14 minutes left, pinned Tampa at its 4-yard line. His third punt, with 10 minutes left, pinned Tampa at its 8-yard line. Crazy thing: Martin did it one more time, and the ball was hanging in the air at the 1-yard line, and the Buffalo gunner couldn’t bat it back into play. Araiza is superior is why you bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Araiza is superior is why you bring him back. If so, why has no other team sought his services--he is a free agent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, CSBill said: If so, why has no other team sought his services--he is a free agent? 9 hours ago, Doc said: His civil trial is still pending. No one's signing him before it's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Is Ariaza still available. The guy forgot how to punt. Josh has more of a hang time on his INTs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Every punt is a line drive. It's unreal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Cut him immediately. Inexcusable to consistently punt that poorly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 He is so terrible. Just now, stinky finger said: Really? Yes really, he's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Bferra13 said: He is so terrible. Yes really, he's terrible. With what happened tonight….Punter? bad for sure but… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The Matt Araiza thread we need right now lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, stinky finger said: With what happened tonight….Punter? bad for sure but… I mean, he can take the coaches and Davis with him. I'd be fine with that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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