Matt Araiza

[JESSEFEFFER]

I suspected that the pending civil suit would prevent any team from signing him at this point.  There could be details that come from it which might lead to a bad PR situation at the very least. Different rules for 6th round punters vs. franchise QBs and all was my thinking.   So it is interesting to me that the Jets are giving him a shot now even though that means I was wrong.

[Chandler#81]

Bastards!😡

[The Jokeman]

10 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Glad he's getting another shot.

Me too but I wish the Bills had tried first. 

[Mr. WEO]

13 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I told you before that Gilleon is hoping for a jury of people like you, who believed the allegations and that he was guilty from the outset, who don't care about the facts of the case.  There is simply no other explanation for him to continue this charade with such a loser of a case.  And if the judgment goes against Araiza, teams likely shy away because the court of public opinion will lead to a team that signed him prematurely getting "heat" as you came around to above.

 

 

I've acknowledged, since the DAs announcement, that he's been cleared.  I've said it in many posts.  So you're wrong again.

 

An entire jury will ignore the facts of the case??  Is the OJ jury hiring out as a group these days?!

 

I don't think a defense attorney will let such a jury be seated doc.  He would do well to pool his choices from the PPP crew..

 

Anyway, maybe the NFL just wasn't as completely blown away as you were by Araiza's single pro punt......

[CincyBillsFan]

I hope he make the Jets and leads the NFL in punting.  And against Buffalo I hope he averages 50 yards a kick for the 20 punts he launches in those 2 games.

 

 

[ALLinALLEN]

9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Me too but I wish the Bills had tried first. 

You're insane if you think he would want to give buffalo another chance.

[Jay_Fixit]

23 minutes ago, nucci said:

why is it very interesting?

Because it’s a punter, and for some reason Bills fans are obsessed with punters. Sorry, lots of Bills fans (not myself as I’m not insane enough to care about the least important position on any field at any time).

10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Me too but I wish the Bills had tried first. 

Yeah, punters. He’d totally be worth another couple of wins.

 

Or nowhere near that because he’s a punter.

[chongli]

I read about this last month that this was in the works, but i was just a rumor, so I didn't post it.

 

Also, just a summary Schefter wrote just now:

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 minutes ago, chongli said:

I read about this last month that this was in the works, but i was just a rumor, so I didn't post.

[Blank Stare]

Seemed pretty unlikely, but was hoping the Bills would kick the tires on one of their draft picks to compete for a spot like last year. Don’t get me wrong - I like what Sam Martin did last year and he’s probably the better punter to have right now based on the part of the field they’ll most likely be punting from, but he’s no spring chicken. 

[BritBill]

The Jets have just re-turfed their pitch which is good for Araiza as he likes playing on fields with no grass. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, BritBill said:

The Jets have just re-turfed their pitch which is good for Araiza as he likes playing on fields with no grass. 

Oh, stop 'whinging'...

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[RoyBatty is alive]

We will always have the memory of his one punt as a Buffalo Bill, the 82 yard bomb.

 

Havent keep up with his saga so in ignorance, I will go ahead and wish his a very long career with the Jests and hope he kicks his leg to death next few years.

[BillsFanThru-N-Thru]

59 minutes ago, nucci said:

why is it very interesting?

Only from the stand point that a team is willing to take a chance on him and bring him in with I believe a still pending Civil suit going against him.  

[Irv]

How many picks do the Pats get for the work out?  

[4merper4mer]

41 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

You're insane if you think he would want to give buffalo another chance.

Huh?

[Doc]

2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Final roster is a term with a definition.  Araiza did not make the final roster.  Had you used the words “would have made”;you could make your case, but even then it would be opinion.  Haack got cut.  This means Araiza was beat Haack.  That’s it.

 

It is possible, even likely, that the Bills thought the SDSU matter was settled.  It was also possible that they simply let Haack go and still had concerns about Araiza.  Maybe the Carolina preseason game was a final audition.  When they did let him go it wasn’t exactly difficult finding a new punter who was a known quantity.

 

"Would have made" was always implied.  And your "maybe the Carolina preseason game was a final audition" is your opinion.

 

52 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I've acknowledged, since the DAs announcement, that he's been cleared.  I've said it in many posts.  So you're wrong again.

 

An entire jury will ignore the facts of the case??  Is the OJ jury hiring out as a group these days?!

 

I don't think a defense attorney will let such a jury be seated doc.  He would do well to pool his choices from the PPP crew..

 

Anyway, maybe the NFL just wasn't as completely blown away as you were by Araiza's single pro punt......

 

The Bills, a SB favorite, were.  And don't look now, but the Jets are working him out...

Edited May 24, 2023 by Doc

[Gregg]

52 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I hope he make the Jets and leads the NFL in punting.  And against Buffalo I hope he averages 50 yards a kick for the 20 punts he launches in those 2 games.

 

 

 

I would also add in those two games hopefully we get a blocked punt or two returned for a TD or a punt return for a TD.

[Doc]

33 minutes ago, BritBill said:

The Jets have just re-turfed their pitch which is good for Araiza as he likes playing on fields with no grass. 

 

The accuser is into Brazilian waxing?  Never heard that bit...

[Process]

It's going to suck watching him boom kicks against us twice a year. But good for him, he deserves to be in the NFL. 

[Gregg]

Just now, Process said:

It's going to suck watching him boom kicks against us twice a year. But good for him, he deserves to be in the NFL. 

 

Why would that be bad. That means the Bills defense is stopping their offense.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

There is nothing interesting about punters

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I suspected that the pending civil suit would prevent any team from signing him at this point.  There could be details that come from it which might lead to a bad PR situation at the very least. Different rules for 6th round punters vs. franchise QBs and all was my thinking.   So it is interesting to me that the Jets are giving him a shot now even though that means I was wrong.

The teams don’t care about the pending civil suit, but Ariaza should.  You know her lawyer will be after every penny of his contract regardless of the validity of accusation.  

[MJS]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

Me too but I wish the Bills had tried first. 

We've got a pretty good punter already.

[Franco_92]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Of course. Surprised Bill Belichick didn't do this first.

Don't they have a good punter? 

[DJB]

37 minutes ago, Irv said:

How many picks do the Pats get for the work out?  

All of them 

[Franco_92]

11 minutes ago, Process said:

It's going to suck watching him boom kicks against us twice a year. But good for him, he deserves to be in the NFL. 

Nah I hope we see him kick like 30 punts to us this year. That would be awesome

[4merper4mer]

22 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

"Would have made" was always implied.  And your "maybe the Carolina preseason game was a final audition" is your opinion.

 

 

 

Why imply something you can just as easily state?  You straight up said he made the final roster, which is false.  Nobody stopped you from saying  he “would have made” the final roster which, while still an opinion and never a fact, was at least a defendable position.  You didn’t.  My use of the word “maybe” acknowledges the Carolina statement was opinion.  Leaving it out would have made it seem as if I was calling it a fact.  This is how languages work.  Words have meanings which when used properly communicate ideas.  When used improperly they cause misunderstandings, confusion or incorrect conclusions.

 

When Tim Graham stated that there was a “direct quote” from Araiza he was demonstrably wrong and personally I can’t think of a reason other than stupidity, agenda or antagonism.  Being better than Tim Graham is a pretty low standard I’d hope we could all achieve even when we disagree.
 

 

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

Just seen this on Twitter ... very interesting.

 

 

The Jets are actually a good team to consider him.  Prior to Rodgers a weak offense and stellar defense.  That leg could keep them in games.  
 

Im also of course glad he’s getting a chance or maybe more to get back on track.  This is why I’m not quick to demonize players or coaches when allegations come out.  It’s always best to just let the system work it out and then make a judgment.

 

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by machine gun kelly

[BillsShredder83]

23 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

The teams don’t care about the pending civil suit, but Ariaza should.  You know her lawyer will be after every penny of his contract regardless of the validity of accusation.  

Hope he takes her to the cleaners in court and takes 20% of her income for life, even If it's minimum wage. 

 

This should be a jailable offense. A false accusation creates more victims than a real assault even, and the victims are real SA victims. Scum of the earth 

[TBBills Fan]

hes giving them our ST playbook! NOOOOOOOOOOO

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Why imply something you can just as easily state?  You straight up said he made the final roster, which is false.  Nobody stopped you from saying  he “would have made” the final roster which, while still an opinion and never a fact, was at least a defendable position.  You didn’t.  My use of the word “maybe” acknowledges the Carolina statement was opinion.  Leaving it out would have made it seem as if I was calling it a fact.  This is how languages work.  Words have meanings which when used properly communicate ideas.  When used improperly they cause misunderstandings, confusion or incorrect conclusions.

 

When Tim Graham stated that there was a “direct quote” from Araiza he was demonstrably wrong and personally I can’t think of a reason other than stupidity, agenda or antagonism.  Being better than Tim Graham is a pretty low standard I’d hope we could all achieve even when we disagree.

 

You're arguing semantics and are the only who had a problem with what I said.  Why, I have no idea, but it's silly.  You and everyone else knows very well that had these bogus allegations not come out, Araiza is on the opening day roster.  You could give a thousand "maybes" but the Bills weren't cutting him at such a late date and jeopardizing his chemistry with Bass for anything but extraordinary circumstances, like this was.  

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Did Aaron give his blessing? Will he need a week in a dark isolation chamber to contemplate the ramification of switching punters? Will the New York/Jersey media leave the story be or will they make it a season long story that serves as a distraction? Will Lazard get "hit in the gonads" again today? Will Saleh FINALLY reveal the secret to how he gets his head so shiny? 

 

All this and MORE on the next episode of "J-E-S-T SUCK SUCK SUCK"

 

I can answer one of your questions.  He will reveal how he gets his head so shiny when he gets an endorsement deal.

21 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

hes giving them our ST playbook! NOOOOOOOOOOO

 

Well NFL changed rules make 1/4 of it useless.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

"Would have made" was always implied.  And your "maybe the Carolina preseason game was a final audition" is your opinion.

 

 

The Bills, a SB favorite, were.  And don't look now, but the Jets are working him out...

 

impossible!  the trial hasn't even stated yet!!

 

The Jets will need a Punter more than the Bills have for the past several seasons.

 

27 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You're arguing semantics and are the only who had a problem with what I said.  Why, I have no idea, but it's silly.  You and everyone else knows very well that had these bogus allegations not come out, Araiza is on the opening day roster.  You could give a thousand "maybes" but the Bills weren't cutting him at such a late date and jeopardizing his chemistry with Bass for anything but extraordinary circumstances, like this was.  

 

Yes....the "chemistry" with Bass....lol, come on.

[TBBills Fan]

10 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

I can answer one of your questions.  He will reveal how he gets his head so shiny when he gets an endorsement deal.

 

Well NFL changed rules make 1/4 of it useless.

 

that means they got 3/4!  we are screwed!

[The Jokeman]

57 minutes ago, MJS said:

We've got a pretty good punter already.

Good yes, but Martin doesn't have a leg that can flip the field which Araiza can, toss in the latter likely be cheaper. 

[jethro_tull]

good for him.  

[boyst]

I am still awaiting all of the mea culpas and apologies this guy is owed by so many. Amazing the vocal mental midgets are so quiet now.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

I am still awaiting all of the mea culpas and apologies this guy is owed by so many. Amazing the vocal mental midgets are so quiet now.

He’s not owed anything by anyone not involved. Only person that needs to apologize is the person that accused him.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Simon Says]

2 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

I know we have sam martin but little surprised the Bills didnt sign him and allow him to still negotiate with other teams (maybe NFL doesnt have a process for that either).  Maybe it was offered and declined.  But at least he could be on PS.  not as good as being a starting punter but start to give back some of what was lost.

What? If you sign a player, he can't negotiate with other teams. I think he would quickly get poached off the PS and as for returning to Buffalo, that ship has probably sailed.