Matt Araiza

[benderbender]

Will they make him shower separately? Everyone seems to forget that he admitted to having at least one STD on the phone call with his accuser. 

[Simon Says]

2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I suspected that the pending civil suit would prevent any team from signing him at this point.  There could be details that come from it which might lead to a bad PR situation at the very least. Different rules for 6th round punters vs. franchise QBs and all was my thinking.   So it is interesting to me that the Jets are giving him a shot now even though that means I was wrong.

He is not on the Commissioners "bad boy list" so I don't think a possible Civil suit is much of an obstacle. 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

The accuser is into Brazilian waxing?  Never heard that bit...

I think the joke, in extremely poor taste, was that the girl was so underage that...you can finish the rest

[Simon Says]

I believe Araiza is suing the school,San Diego State, for some statements or leaks that damaged his reputation. 

[Rc2catch]

Wish it wasn’t the Jets but I’m happy he can get back to work and try to rebuild his life/image after having his character shredded through the media circus. I remember being pretty active in the monster thread when all this drama went down and I could understand the fans that just wanted the drama away from the team cause the focus was Super Bowl.  I was on the side of wanting the league to step in and put him on the exempt list (was quite a debate about if they could even do it since the incident was from college) 

But then there were those who read HER attorneys accusations as facts and wanted him under a jail immediately and boy were they active that week. 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

impossible!  the trial hasn't even stated yet!!

 

The Jets will need a Punter more than the Bills have for the past several seasons.

 

Yeah, a team is working Araiza out.  Imagine that!

 

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Yes....the "chemistry" with Bass....lol, come on.

 

It's a thing.  Kickers like to be comfortable with their holders.  And for the Bills, a team that rarely punted in 2021, holding for kicks is more important than the punts.

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

I think the joke, in extremely poor taste, was that the girl was so underage that...you can finish the rest

 

I know.  

[Brandon]

That sucks,  but at the same time,  best of luck to him.  I never thought the story added up and I'm glad to see that NFL teams are apparently willing to give him another chance. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

24 minutes ago, benderbender said:

Will they make him shower separately? Everyone seems to forget that he admitted to having at least one STD on the phone call with his accuser. 

WTH relevance is that?  Is he guilty of something contracting a STD?

[78thealltimegreat]

The kid has been through enough glad he’s getting another chance wish it where in the nfc though 

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

You're arguing semantics and are the only who had a problem with what I said.  Why, I have no idea, but it's silly.  You and everyone else knows very well that had these bogus allegations not come out, Araiza is on the opening day roster.  You could give a thousand "maybes" but the Bills weren't cutting him at such a late date and jeopardizing his chemistry with Bass for anything but extraordinary circumstances, like this was.  

Dude whatever.  You stated something that was 100% false.  Own it.  It doesn’t really matter how many people believed it.  It was false.
 

The only demonstrated fact about the Haack cut is that Haack was no longer a viable option for the Bills.  ALL of the rest is speculation/probables.  I could list some probables that refute yours but there really isn’t a point,  The probables I’d list actually came to pass….admittedly with the benefit of having hindsight….but your probables, stated as facts by you, proved untrue.

55 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

 

Yes....the "chemistry" with Bass....lol, come on.

In this thread I am frustrated that he is making me agree with you.  I stress that it only in this thread and I will not be coming around on your assertion that “the deflator” is a common weight loss nickname.

[FLFan]

Super Bowl.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

Thanks, I hate it

 

[Ralonzo]

4 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

I figured he'd end up with the Browns or the Chiefs.

 

Nah, he wasn't charged.

[quinnearlysghost88]

He still admitted to having sex with an underage girl. And he alibi for not being part of the ***** was:

 

“Gilleon told CBS8 in San Diego that the witness on whom prosecutors based their opinion that Araiza was not present during the alleged gang rape was a “buddy.””

 

Got it. Case closed. 

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

He still admitted to having sex with an underage girl. And he alibi for not being part of the ***** was:

 

“Gilleon told CBS8 in San Diego that the witness on whom prosecutors based their opinion that Araiza was not present during the alleged gang rape was a “buddy.””

 

Got it. Case closed. 

It's not illegal in CA when the girl falsely claims she is of age and lying.

 

Also you're trusting the defense attorney to be 100 factual in a statement to the press.

 

Further, the institution of American justice is innocent until proven guilty. You have no respect for this process and thus should have no respect given to you.

 

My heart breaks for the way in which so many Americans agree with your opinion. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

15 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Nah, he wasn't charged.

Insightful and inciteful!

[HappyDays]

16 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

He still admitted to having sex with an underage girl. And he alibi for not being part of the ***** was:

 

“Gilleon told CBS8 in San Diego that the witness on whom prosecutors based their opinion that Araiza was not present during the alleged gang rape was a “buddy.””

 

Got it. Case closed. 

 

Why are you so keen on rooting for Arazia to be a rapist? That's what I don't understand about people in your camp.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, a team is working Araiza out.  Imagine that!

 

 

It's a thing.  Kickers like to be comfortable with their holders.  And for the Bills, a team that rarely punted in 2021, holding for kicks is more important than the punts.

 

The Kicker is very comfortable with the next guy who showed up--just like the guy before him and before him.

[Prospector]

I was actually in his corner until now… he just may have been shady in this situation… the Jets?!?! Makes sense now

[Buffalo_Stampede]

28 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

He still admitted to having sex with an underage girl. And he alibi for not being part of the ***** was:

 

“Gilleon told CBS8 in San Diego that the witness on whom prosecutors based their opinion that Araiza was not present during the alleged gang rape was a “buddy.””

 

Got it. Case closed. 

He’s not charged with anything and it doesn’t seem he’s going to be charged with anything. 

[Prospector]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He’s not charged with anything and it doesn’t seem he’s going to be charged with anything. 

Now he is charged with being a wannabe Jersey Jet… that’s worse in most parts of the country

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, arcane said:

Don't they have a good punter? 

 

They need the best they can find since they will be punting a lot this year.

[YattaOkasan]

2 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

What? If you sign a player, he can't negotiate with other teams. I think he would quickly get poached off the PS and as for returning to Buffalo, that ship has probably sailed.

Figured if there was an exception to the rule this could be it.  but i understand.

[AuntieEm]

4 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

I suspected that the pending civil suit would prevent any team from signing him at this point.  There could be details that come from it which might lead to a bad PR situation at the very least. Different rules for 6th round punters vs. franchise QBs and all was my thinking.   So it is interesting to me that the Jets are giving him a shot now even though that means I was wrong.

 

 I doubt he has any real grounds for a lawsuit against the nfl. No player is guaranteed employment in the league regardless of their talent.  He could have a lawsuit a gainst the accuser as he was proven to have left that location before the incident took place so could not have assaulted the girl.  He gets to choose what teams he will tryout for basically getting a early shot at being a free agent while not failing to impress with his punting skills.  Maybe he's always been a Jets fan or they were one team that offered him a shot to compete for a roster spot.  Hope he does well except of course when he plays against the Bills if he does land a spit on any other nfl team. 

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Oh damn.  This got the mob trying to double down on getting the pound of flesh from him. 

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s a punter. 

24 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Why are you so keen on rooting for Arazia to be a rapist? That's what I don't understand about people in your camp.

I mean if he admitted to having sex with underage girl, I don’t know how I’d be rooting for the guy. 
 

but if they prove that girl lied, she definitely should face charges and lawsuits.

[Billsfan777]

I hope he destroys the bills for not standing behind a innocent man an letting the media mob pressure them in releasing him

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan777 said:

I hope he destroys the bills for not standing behind a innocent man an letting the media mob pressure them in releasing him

Are you serious with this crap? Yeah, the Bills should have had stood by a rookie punter who had a rape charge hanging over his head when they were SB contenders. That definitely won’t have been a distraction. For a punter. Brilliant!

 

Guess why the Steelers stood by Big Rape when got accused (thank god he didn’t kneel!)? Because he’s a star qb. No team with a brain is standing by a punter with that charge. Is it right l? Hell no, but it absolutely idiotic to blame the Bills for not wanting to deal with the headache. For a punter. 

 

 

[Albany,n.y.]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Good yes, but Martin doesn't have a leg that can flip the field which Araiza can, toss in the latter likely be cheaper. 

Here are 2 reasons why the Bills wouldn't have re-signed Araiza;

 

1) Martin got a lot of money & it would be a dead cap hit of $2,265,000 if he got cut before playing this season.  So at least for 2023 he's the punter.  

https://overthecap.com/player/sam-martin/2246

 

2) Martin is a proven veteran holder.  Araiza is still a question mark as a holder.   

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Youse bills fans are dun !!!

[Doc]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Dude whatever.  You stated something that was 100% false.  Own it.  It doesn’t really matter how many people believed it.  It was false.
 

The only demonstrated fact about the Haack cut is that Haack was no longer a viable option for the Bills.  ALL of the rest is speculation/probables.  I could list some probables that refute yours but there really isn’t a point,  The probables I’d list actually came to pass….admittedly with the benefit of having hindsight….but your probables, stated as facts by you, proved untrue.

In this thread I am frustrated that he is making me agree with you.  I stress that it only in this thread and I will not be coming around on your assertion that “the deflator” is a common weight loss nickname.

 

Congrats.  You have WEO.  I have everyone else.  Have fun with that.

[HappyDays]

18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I mean if he admitted to having sex with underage girl, I don’t know how I’d be rooting for the guy. 
 

but if they prove that girl lied, she definitely should face charges and lawsuits

 

He admitted to having sex with her but in California it is defensible if you believed the girl was at the age of consent.

 

She didn't lie about Araiza possibly gang raping her. In fact she didn't even accuse him of that. That is a narrative the media chose to run with because that's the clickbait world we exist in now.

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

He admitted to having sex with her but in California it is defensible if you believed the girl was at the age of consent.

 

She didn't lie about Araiza possibly gang raping her. In fact she didn't even accuse him of that. That is a narrative the media chose to run with because that's the clickbait world we exist in now.

 

Huh?  She absolutely accused him and 2 of his teammates of raping her.  She also suggested he roofied her.

[Draconator]

37 minutes ago, Billsfan777 said:

I hope he destroys the bills for not standing behind a innocent man an letting the media mob pressure them in releasing him

Is this Araiza's agent?

Edited May 24, 2023 by Draconator

[CoudyBills]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Huh?  She absolutely accused him and 2 of his teammates of raping her.  She also suggested he roofied her.

Well, she lied

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Well, she lied

 

I know.  Multiple times at that.  Just saying she definitely accused him of raping her inside the house.

[finn]

22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

He admitted to having sex with her but in California it is defensible if you believed the girl was at the age of consent.

 

She didn't lie about Araiza possibly gang raping her. In fact she didn't even accuse him of that. That is a narrative the media chose to run with because that's the clickbait world we exist in now.

Why let facts get in the way of opinion? Posters here made up their mind well before the night in question. 

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Congrats.  You have WEO.  I have everyone else.  Have fun with that.

WEO + objective truth > everyone else + provably false statements

[HappyDays]

31 minutes ago, Doc said:

She absolutely accused him and 2 of his teammates of raping her. 

 

She actually did not. If you read the allegation to the letter, she accuses his teammates of raping her, not Araiza himself. She says he "threw her onto the bed" but never directly accuses him of participating in the alleged gang rape. Her attorney just used Araiza's name to draw attention to the complaint. But he chose his words very carefully.