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Mikie2times Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 8:15 PM, Augie said: Yep, it’s like “successful surgery”. They rarely come out and say “yeah, I really effed that one up!” Meh, it was ok, I feel like I have had better surgeries. In any event, good luck! Hope everything turns out ok! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: That’s fair, but I wasn’t necessarily thinking of guys who were big time signings, I was just thinking of veteran players signed by Beane. Guys like Anquan Boldin and Vontae Davis. I understand they weren’t expected to be superstars, but they were supposed to be a veteran presence, instead they were epic busts. I know those guys didn’t cost much, but it’s a road I’d prefer not to travel going forward. I’ll take the Sherfield signing everyday over a mediocre veteran with name recognition. Campbell is obviously a step above many of the rest, but the price would have to be a bargain for me to have any interest. I forgot Frank Gore. I think he was 36 when we signed him. Now he was purely meant to be a “veteran presence” on a rebuilding team, but he was kind of toast by the time we got him. Veteran Leader Toast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Does this mean they won’t get round to it or they have a ball park figure that he’ll be asking for and won’t be able to match it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: He obviously wanted more than $1.7Mil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Jordan P is in for a "visit". Not sure why it is labeled as a visit. Isn't it just resigning him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, ngbills said: Jordan P is in for a "visit". Not sure why it is labeled as a visit. Isn't it just resigning him? I guess since he is a free agent and it's the offseason, he's in the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 1:10 PM, Eastport bills said: I admit that signing Miller was a proactive attempt to fix our D-line and create a successful formula similar to the Rams championship winning defense. Everything looked good at the start of the season but the injury that effectively killed our season is a microcosm of the faulty reasoning that inspired the signing. A 33 year old D-lineman for 120 million over 6 years is risky to say the least. Injuries have to be factored in with older players and the damage to the cap flexibility makes keeping a roster competitive difficult. Other than franchise QBs, the contracts for 33 yr old edge rushers are never that much. This is Peak Captain Hindsight. Are we really complaining about money spent on the 2nd highest paying (and 2nd most important position)??? Throw the ball well. Disrupt the qb. It's very simple. A fluke bang bang knee injury is incredibly common in the sport. Should we have not paid Allen in case he blows up a knee? Miller isn't a 6yr deal, and anybody in football knows it. Quit talking like an agent. This place is fn bonkers. Draft needs to hurry. Maybe we shouldn't pick anyone in the first round! What if they blow their knee out during the football game 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: This is Peak Captain Hindsight. Are we really complaining about money spent on the 2nd highest paying (and 2nd most important position)??? Throw the ball well. Disrupt the qb. It's very simple. A fluke bang bang knee injury is incredibly common in the sport. Should we have not paid Allen in case he blows up a knee? Miller isn't a 6yr deal, and anybody in football knows it. Quit talking like an agent. This place is fn bonkers. Draft needs to hurry. Maybe we shouldn't pick anyone in the first round! What if they blow their knee out during the football game 😱 Always appreciate the kind words. Perhaps your comparison to paying a generational 24 yr old franchise QB to a 33yr old edge rusher is silly and naive. QBs like Josh must be paid and in some cases fully guaranteed. They define your franchise as relevant for a decade. They justify building new stadiums.Paying an old edge rusher, with an injury history, 20 million a year for at least 4 years with what was guaranteed, is not a no brainer. Not only did his injury crush our chances last year, but our cap restrictions prevented bringing in difference makers this year and for years to come with Beane’s restructures kicking the can down the road. By the way, Miller even admitted he wanted to sign with Dallas for a lot less before Beane blew him away with the monster deal. The problem with 34 yr old edge rushers is after serious knee injuries, they tend not to recover fully especially with their get off. Let’s see if he’s ready to go in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 20 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: He obviously wanted more than $1.7Mil Why are bills being so cheap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Why are bills being so cheap ? You do know the answer to that without asking, right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You do know the answer to that without asking, right Compensatory picks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Compensatory picks ? Looks that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Why are bills being so cheap ? 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: You do know the answer to that without asking, right Team history? Because Ralph was? 🤔 Edited March 29, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 NFLN says this morning Campbell signing with Falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 9 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Compensatory picks ? They're the new Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 great dude....nfl man of year for a real treat.....type this in the search box for you tube Calais Campbell & Darrell Green HATE When QBs Get The Tackle | NFL Generations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Atlanta aka whoever gives me the most $ Atlanta doesn't even believe in Atlanta, what a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Compensatory picks ? Calais was released and would not count towards comp pick formula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Compensatory picks ? No. Cap space and the Bills don’t want to overpay for a player who turns 37 this September. Campbell was an outstanding player and still has enough in the tank to be a good rotational player this season, but there’s a reason the Ravens didn’t try harder to hold onto him. Let the man go get the last dollar from another team. There is no other reason for him to sign in Atlanta. Bring in players looking for a title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Probably an announcement coming that we’ve re-signed Jordan Phillips. Usually how these things work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Pure speculation on my side, but I wonder if the visit was scheduled because they felt they could be moving Ed, but the trade fell through so they canceled it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) I think they're gonna let Ed play through this year and see if they get more consistency at his spot. Last yr. I wanted to trade Edmunds , but it didn't happen. As a matter of fact, I was just cleaning out some files and found my thoughts from last year. 4/27/22 Rd.1 Trade pick 25 - 32 (for pick 66) Detroit Zion Johnson Pro bowl LG for years to come and can play multiple spots. Beane is going to build a BA oline and he's not gonna wait any longer. God forbid if Saffold goes down, Beane is NOT going to let this oline go thru what it did last year. TRADE: Tremaine Edmunds to NYG for picks 36 and 67. The Giants have 2 3rd rounders and are basically giving up a 2nd rd. pick for Edmunds, not to mention taking his 12.7 mil. cap hit. The Bills give them pick 203 rd. 6. Maybe they'll move him to the outside where he belongs...and could possibly pay dividends, away from Leslie Frazier...don't get me started... PLEASE NOTE: Edmunds is in no way worth 12.7 this year just to watch some team offer him a stupid amount next offseason and he's gone, so why not make a move now. 12.7 is an absolute waste of money this year. My personal last straw was the floundering, bewildered look in his eyes during th K.C playoff game. Conversely, K.C's rookie MLB Nick Bolton looked like a stud. Pick 36; Christian Harris LB. He may not be a giant but as a 3 year signal caller for Nick Saban, he's got great instincts, is a baller and great in coverage. He can play inside or out Pick 57: John Metchie WR YAC monster. Maybe he doesn't catch the ball 70 yds down field, but can turn 20 into 70. Catch him if you can. Pick 66 ( from Detroit): Troy Anderson LB Too good to pass up here. The NFL is always evolving and where it's being called a passing league, I;m willing to bet we'll see more 2 tight end offenses as well as having to deal with bigger backs, ie. Henry as well as remembering getting run over by Indy and NE last year. Taron Johnson cannot tackle the bigger , more powerful backs. We are going to have to have a 4-3 capability. Anderson has played multiple positions and should bring great anticipation. Pick 67 ( form NYG) Tariq Woolen Cb Big and Fast and NFL comparison ...Marlo Humphries. Pick 89 Cam Taylor Britt CB Double dipping here because this guy's a hitter. I don't know know how the pecking order will work out with Tre's return date and Dane Jackson, but we could be set for years with 4 stud corners...and if we ever wanted or needed to drop 7 like Cincy did, we can do it. Pick 130 Darien Kinnard A big nasty talented olineman who is also very versatile and drops to us here because of some bad press at the senior bowl where he may have rubbed the coaches the wrong way. Dude's a beast. Again, Beane is not going to spend 10 yrs. building an oline or be nonchalant about it because JA's mobile. Pick 168 John Ridgeway DL I think this guy falls through the cracks and deserves a shot here. He could turn out to be a punisher. Pick 185 I'm guessing this would be a good spot to take either the punter from Penn State or Ga. Pick 231.....IDK,,,,Stevie Johnson? I'd just like to make one more point about our Oline. I believe Beane is going to really address this issue. What if Saffold gets hurt?...What if Morse gets concussed?...What if Spencer Brown gets hurt again? We are grabbing our ankles praying Josh doesn't get injured, If Ike comes back mid season, so...what's that gonna help?. If Bates has to move to center, then what? ...Mantz? I think Quessenbury can step in and be servicable, but it's time to build a Colt's type of line. I think Johnson can give us the next Ruben Brown and Kinnard can grow into a vicious RG...plus they are both versatile. As of right now, this current Oline can easily become our Achilles heel. i'd like for a vet like Bates to be next to Brown and Saffold to teach Johnson. He doesnt have to be a starter day one. We have to build a kickass Oline! Thank goodness Aaron Kromer is here. Let's get nasty. Edited March 29, 2023 by nosejob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Do we get a Comp Pick for losing him to Atlanta? Asking for a friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Do we get a Comp Pick for losing him to Atlanta? Asking for a friend. Nah but the Patriots might. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 year deals are all the rage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 More than likely because Campbell told him what he wanted to get paid & it wasn't in the Bills budget . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Campbell is visiting Bills and Jets. Campbell is not scheduled for a visit with the Bills. Campbell is visiting the Jets after the league meeting. Campbell signs with the Falcons. Alright.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Campbell could very well be a deadline deal candidate next season. Win-win for him. He gets paid in a market that has otherwise dried up and then ends up in KC or Jax for a stretch run. Of course, maybe his good friend Lamar ends up in Atlanta after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: Probably an announcement coming that we’ve re-signed Jordan Phillips. Usually how these things work. I found odd we had Phillips in "for a visit" yet whatever it takes to bring him back. 19 minutes ago, SCBills said: Campbell is visiting Bills and Jets. Campbell is not scheduled for a visit with the Bills. Campbell is visiting the Jets after the league meeting. Campbell signs with the Falcons. Alright.. I think some of the visits are just his agent trying to drum up leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, nosejob said: I think they're gonna let Ed play through this year and see if they get more consistency at his spot. Last yr. I wanted to trade Edmunds , but it didn't happen. As a matter of fact, I was just cleaning out some files and found my thoughts from last year. 4/27/22 Rd.1 Trade pick 25 - 32 (for pick 66) Detroit Zion Johnson Pro bowl LG for years to come and can play multiple spots. Beane is going to build a BA oline and he's not gonna wait any longer. God forbid if Saffold goes down, Beane is NOT going to let this oline go thru what it did last year. TRADE: Tremaine Edmunds to NYG for picks 36 and 67. The Giants have 2 3rd rounders and are basically giving up a 2nd rd. pick for Edmunds, not to mention taking his 12.7 mil. cap hit. The Bills give them pick 203 rd. 6. Maybe they'll move him to the outside where he belongs...and could possibly pay dividends, away from Leslie Frazier...don't get me started... PLEASE NOTE: Edmunds is in no way worth 12.7 this year just to watch some team offer him a stupid amount next offseason and he's gone, so why not make a move now. 12.7 is an absolute waste of money this year. My personal last straw was the floundering, bewildered look in his eyes during th K.C playoff game. Conversely, K.C's rookie MLB Nick Bolton looked like a stud. Pick 36; Christian Harris LB. He may not be a giant but as a 3 year signal caller for Nick Saban, he's got great instincts, is a baller and great in coverage. He can play inside or out Pick 57: John Metchie WR YAC monster. Maybe he doesn't catch the ball 70 yds down field, but can turn 20 into 70. Catch him if you can. Pick 66 ( from Detroit): Troy Anderson LB Too good to pass up here. The NFL is always evolving and where it's being called a passing league, I;m willing to bet we'll see more 2 tight end offenses as well as having to deal with bigger backs, ie. Henry as well as remembering getting run over by Indy and NE last year. Taron Johnson cannot tackle the bigger , more powerful backs. We are going to have to have a 4-3 capability. Anderson has played multiple positions and should bring great anticipation. Pick 67 ( form NYG) Tariq Woolen Cb Big and Fast and NFL comparison ...Marlo Humphries. Pick 89 Cam Taylor Britt CB Double dipping here because this guy's a hitter. I don't know know how the pecking order will work out with Tre's return date and Dane Jackson, but we could be set for years with 4 stud corners...and if we ever wanted or needed to drop 7 like Cincy did, we can do it. Pick 130 Darien Kinnard A big nasty talented olineman who is also very versatile and drops to us here because of some bad press at the senior bowl where he may have rubbed the coaches the wrong way. Dude's a beast. Again, Beane is not going to spend 10 yrs. building an oline or be nonchalant about it because JA's mobile. Pick 168 John Ridgeway DL I think this guy falls through the cracks and deserves a shot here. He could turn out to be a punisher. Pick 185 I'm guessing this would be a good spot to take either the punter from Penn State or Ga. Pick 231.....IDK,,,,Stevie Johnson? I'd just like to make one more point about our Oline. I believe Beane is going to really address this issue. What if Saffold gets hurt?...What if Morse gets concussed?...What if Spencer Brown gets hurt again? We are grabbing our ankles praying Josh doesn't get injured, If Ike comes back mid season, so...what's that gonna help?. If Bates has to move to center, then what? ...Mantz? I think Quessenbury can step in and be servicable, but it's time to build a Colt's type of line. I think Johnson can give us the next Ruben Brown and Kinnard can grow into a vicious RG...plus they are both versatile. As of right now, this current Oline can easily become our Achilles heel. i'd like for a vet like Bates to be next to Brown and Saffold to teach Johnson. He doesnt have to be a starter day one. We have to build a kickass Oline! Thank goodness Aaron Kromer is here. Let's get nasty. Yeah this would have been great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, BritBill said: They're the new Super Bowl. Hah! 🤣 * Oh, as you Brits would say, "Well played, sir." 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Pure speculation on my side, but I wonder if the visit was scheduled because they felt they could be moving Ed, but the trade fell through so they canceled it? I think that's exactly what happened. The league isn't dumb. They can see Ed's inconsistent play. No one is willing to pu that 10M. We'll let him walk after this season and wait for our 2025 3rd round pick. Wouldn't be surprised to see us drafting a late DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Wow that is a lot of guaranteed money for a guy that will be 37 this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: Wow that is a lot of guaranteed money for a guy that will be 37 this year. There is no more rudderless franchise in the NFL right now than Atlanta. I have genuinely no idea what they are doing or what the plan is. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: There is no more rudderless franchise in the NFL right now than Atlanta. I have genuinely no idea what they are doing or what the plan is. That entire division tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: That entire division tbh Yea I kinda see the Saints thinking though... they have a talented roster in a weak division so they are in "why tear it down when we can win the division and make the playoffs a few times here" mode. I know some people think every team should either believe "we are in a Superbowl window" or be trying to lose but that just isn't reality. I see their plan and tbh in that division I understand it. The Panthers have at least hired a coach who has had some success in the NFL and then got themselves to #1 to have their pick of the litter at QB. Tampa I presume know that they will not be good this year and then are hard re-setting this time next year (I think they might completely clean house next January). The Falcons there seems to be no plan. Like this is about to be year 3 of this regime and where are they? What do they have? Kyle Pitts if he can get back healthy..... a half decent oline and err... a couple of good not great corners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: There is no more rudderless franchise in the NFL right now than Atlanta. I have genuinely no idea what they are doing or what the plan is. That contract makes no sense they have no qb they are likely a 7 win team but good for CC get paid at that age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I'm guessing the visit was scheduled until ATL offered 7 million and Beane's max offer was 1.77 - 2 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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