Alphadawg7 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) I mean really? This guys got some nerve given his own track record… 👇👇This guys response was classic 😂😂😂😂😂 Edited January 14, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I’m not sure what he said that was wrong? 13 30 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: I’m not sure what he said that was wrong? He kinda insinuated Lamar isn't out there due to his contract issue or to prevent himself from any further injury rather than because he is injured badly enough that he couldn't be out there. 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, AlfaBill said: I’m not sure what he said that was wrong? I mean he is implying Lamar might be dogging it because of his contract situation and calling him out for not playing through the injury essentially. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: He kinda insinuated Lamar isn't out there due to his contract issue or to prevent himself from any further injury rather than because he is injured badly enough that he couldn't be out there. Not what I read. Seems like he wants Lamar to play because he’s a difference maker. I suppose we could read into it how we like. Personally I don’t think Lamar wants to play 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, AlfaBill said: I’m not sure what he said that was wrong? When he said, "I'm being very selfish right now," I knew he was being sincere. Eff that a-hole. Edited January 14, 2023 by Gugny 3 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) He's saying Hurts is out there playing hurt and he isn't Edited January 14, 2023 by motorj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I hope Lamar tells Sammy to go “eat a bag of d#%s” 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I actually agree with Watkins. If it weren’t for his future contract, I think Lamar would be playing. Living here in Baltimore, there’s been some smoke to support it 6 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: I actually agree with Watkins. If it weren’t for his future contract, I think Lamar would be playing. Living here in Baltimore, there’s been some smoke to support it I don't think anyone questions that. And considering he's watch other teams give a QB that hasn't played in 18 months a full guaranteed contact for Watson and traded their future and bank for Wilson, I'd be dragging my feet as well. They are going to end up franchising him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Sucks that he isn’t playing but the Ravens for all the good they’ve done haven’t ever acquired or done much to try to acquire a really good receiver that would make Lamar’s job easier. That and the K are the sour points and the Ravens would be smart to try a sign and trade deal with some other team. I can actually see the Giants or Bucs in the mix here. Lamar and the Ravens are destined for a divorce and it’s been a slow motion train wreck. It sucks for the league and Ravens that he won’t be playing but I get it and think his injury is more serious than reported. I think it has been helping the team with its narrative to part ways without the fan base getting too upset. Watkins is just a moron who cost the team any chance to have a shot at the end of the last game with his fumble. His career and what the Bills gave up for him in that draft full of talent at WR just makes you appreciate the current FO so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ayjent said: Sucks that he isn’t playing but the Ravens for all the good they’ve done haven’t ever acquired or done much to try to acquire a really good receiver that would make Lamar’s job easier. That and the K are the sour points and the Ravens would be smart to try a sign and trade deal with some other team. I can actually see the Giants or Bucs in the mix here. Lamar and the Ravens are destined for a divorce and it’s been a slow motion train wreck. It sucks for the league and Ravens that he won’t be playing but I get it and think his injury is more serious than reported. I think it has been helping the team with its narrative to part ways without the fan base getting too upset. Watkins is just a moron who cost the team any chance to have a shot at the end of the last game with his fumble. His career and what the Bills gave up for him in that draft full of talent at WR just makes you appreciate the current FO so much. The problem is that most wrs don't want to play in their system since it's not designed around passing but Lamar running. See Hollywood Brown requesting a trade. That has changed some but still a major concern when these players are thinking of their future contracts on a team that doesn't throw the ball. Lamar hasn't been in the top 20 for pass attempts ever while he's been in the league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Go back to a 14 game season and 4 playoff teams in each conference. Is that better? The old days when players had it easier... 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Sammy’s an enigma, but there is no question the fact that Lamar doesn’t have a contract past this season is a HUGE issue right now. If Lamar goes out there in a compromised condition and hurts himself worse, he is screwed. Both Lamar and the Ravens have f***ked themselves by not getting a deal done. (and I really want them to beat the Bengals, too…) 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Interesting. I don't think he is dogging Lamar. It is Sammy's always weird (different) way of trying to be supportive and maybe inspire him ??? This is Sammy being Sammy. Edited January 14, 2023 by CSBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) Lamar is 6 weeks out from an injury that was originally thought to be a 1 or 2 week injury. I think it's fair to wonder what's going on. I think the entire league is wondering what's going on with him. Lamar gambled on himself this season and he lost. He certainly hasn't done anything that is going to make him more money whenever and wherever he signs his next contract. Edited January 14, 2023 by Inigo Montoya 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Lamar is 6 weeks out from an injury that was originally thought to be a 1 or 2 week injury. I think it's fair to wonder what's going on. I think the entire league is wondering what's going on with him. Lamar gambled on himself this season and he lost. He certainly hasn't done anything that is going to make him more money whenever and wherever he signs his next contract. His agent really should have told him, you don’t gamble 200+ million, trying to win another 20. The guy is a fool. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Lamar is 6 weeks out from an injury that was originally thought to be a 1 or 2 week injury. I think it's fair to wonder what's going on. I think the entire league is wondering what's going on with him. Lamar gambled on himself this season and he lost. He certainly hasn't done anything that is going to make him more money whenever and wherever he signs his next contract. I think Lamar is going to cash in. He may be the next Cousins as far as being franchised tagged a couple of times by Ravens at $43 M per season but after that he's free and clear. It seems half the league is looking for a QB1. Some team will pay him crazy money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Man, Sammy’s all over the place with that quote. Doesn’t know if Lamar is really hurt or not, but insisting he should play anyway…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I’ve said since Aug+. Lamar take the $200M 2nd highest and generations of family is set. Force team to put $ in OL in your contract. He’s a fool. Even Sammy knows a dumbass when he sees it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, eball said: Sammy’s an enigma, but there is no question the fact that Lamar doesn’t have a contract past this season is a HUGE issue right now. If Lamar goes out there in a compromised condition and hurts himself worse, he is screwed. Both Lamar and the Ravens have f***ked themselves by not getting a deal done. (and I really want them to beat the Bengals, too…) Lamar is also losing bags of money if he goes out there cold at 70% physical capacity and has a really bad game. Right now the prevailing narrative is that the Ravens were serious contenders who have swan-dived after he wasn’t on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Don't you just love it one other teams have turmoil I know I do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Jackson is out of there, and I don't blame him. They won't franchise him, they are too cheap. Ravens should trade him for a boatload of picks and bring Trent Dilfer back for QB, their team is so boring. Ever watch a Ravens game? Like watching paint dry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Virgil said: I actually agree with Watkins. If it weren’t for his future contract, I think Lamar would be playing. Living here in Baltimore, there’s been some smoke to support it you catch him getting loose in that strip club under the other strip club ? 4 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Jackson is out of there, and I don't blame him. They won't franchise him, they are too cheap. Ravens should trade him for a boatload of picks and bring Trent Dilfer back for QB, their team is so boring. Ever watch a Ravens game? Like watching paint dry. lmao @ people who make excuses for Lamar year after year. You’re advocating paying him more than Allen and Mahomes for first round exits on repeat ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: He kinda insinuated Lamar isn't out there due to his contract issue or to prevent himself from any further injury rather than because he is injured badly enough that he couldn't be out there. Well…Lamar isn’t out there because of his contract….so…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I agree with Watkins as well. Here's where he went wrong: It's fine to think everything he does about Lamar it's just not OK to say it out loud. Why not just say it to his face instead of some reporter at the WaPo? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 It’s someone who says a man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client. It works the same for an agent. This deal would’ve been done by now if he had good representation. For what, an additional 2%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Neither of these guys is particularly brilliant, so there is that…, 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I don't think this is all that bad. He's saying he doesn't know hos situation but he wishes he could play. That's how everyone in Baltimore felt this week. The crazier part of this is him saying he wishes someone could reach out to him and talk him into playing. The players don't have a way to contact their QB? That's pretty weird in today's day and age. Everyone texts each other all day every day. I would think every single player has Josh's phone number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I don't think this is all that bad. He's saying he doesn't know hos situation but he wishes he could play. That's how everyone in Baltimore felt this week. The crazier part of this is him saying he wishes someone could reach out to him and talk him into playing. The players don't have a way to contact their QB? That's pretty weird in today's day and age. Everyone texts each other all day every day. I would think every single player has Josh's phone number I believe what he’s saying is that he doesn’t believe it’s the player’s place to do it. It’s an awkward position to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Virgil said: I actually agree with Watkins. If it weren’t for his future contract, I think Lamar would be playing. Living here in Baltimore, there’s been some smoke to support it A Boo-boo foot, lazy bum with a recent big time drop is in no position to comment on Jackson's willingness to play through injury. I really think Watkins will be done in the league after this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: Lamar is 6 weeks out from an injury that was originally thought to be a 1 or 2 week injury. I think it's fair to wonder what's going on. I think the entire league is wondering what's going on with him. Lamar gambled on himself this season and he lost. He certainly hasn't done anything that is going to make him more money whenever and wherever he signs his next contract. Mostly agree. He’s still going to get PAID. No deshaun Watson money so I guess in his mind he “lost.” He’ll be slotted in under Dak/ Josh / pat contracts. Someone will pay him. I’m terrified it’ll be jets or pats And you know what? I’m sort of w Lamar here. I’m not rushing back to get slaughtered / look bad in a playoff game with NO wr on my team. 3 outcomes 1) he’s still too injured / or ineffective 2) he’s healthy and plays bad 3) he’s healthy and plays well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Whaley didn't really do his homework on Watkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I’ve read lots of posts where people think Lamar will hurt his value by playing. Isn’t also then possible that he actually thinks he helps his negotiations by not playing? He’s showing the Ravens where they are without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Virgil said: I actually agree with Watkins. If it weren’t for his future contract, I think Lamar would be playing. Living here in Baltimore, there’s been some smoke to support it If I were Lamar, I don't think I'd play either. Someone will pay him $250 million this offseason, and it's pretty obvious it's not the Ravens. Why risk it to go out there and get crushed by the Bengals and risk another serious injury? They don't have a shot to win this game, with or without Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I’m sick of Lamar at this point. I absolutely think he’s dragging out this injury due to the contract situation. He’s looking out for himself, and himself only… right, wrong or indifferent. As for Lamar the player, I may get flamed for this, but I just don’t think he’s that good. I think he’s dangerous… but not a great QB. I wouldn’t give him anywhere close to Josh/Mahomes type money. Above all said, Sammy should keep his mouth shut. Not his place to publicly call out anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Ayjent said: Sucks that he isn’t playing but the Ravens for all the good they’ve done haven’t ever acquired or done much to try to acquire a really good receiver that would make Lamar’s job easier. That and the K are the sour points and the Ravens would be smart to try a sign and trade deal with some other team. I can actually see the Giants or Bucs in the mix here. Lamar and the Ravens are destined for a divorce and it’s been a slow motion train wreck. It sucks for the league and Ravens that he won’t be playing but I get it and think his injury is more serious than reported. I think it has been helping the team with its narrative to part ways without the fan base getting too upset. Watkins is just a moron who cost the team any chance to have a shot at the end of the last game with his fumble. His career and what the Bills gave up for him in that draft full of talent at WR just makes you appreciate the current FO so much. Making a lot of leaps here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean he is implying Lamar might be dogging it because of his contract situation and calling him out for not playing through the injury essentially. Now who do we know who used to do that. I agree with Sammy on one point - it would be amazing if he came back for playoffs and beat Bengals. We know we can beat Ravens with our without #8. 40 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: A Boo-boo foot, lazy bum with a recent big time drop is in no position to comment on Jackson's willingness to play through injury. I really think Watkins will be done in the league after this season I think like P5t5rman there always will be some team who will look at his potential especially with expanded practice squads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Well…Lamar isn’t out there because of his contract….so…. There have been some reports with pictures he has been at parties while injured from people he went to college with. I am sure he will say "that was not me" or "date on picture is doctored" but I am sure some teams will see them and decide they do not need a QB being paid big bucks who wants to concentrate on things other than football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: He kinda insinuated Lamar isn't out there due to his contract issue or to prevent himself from any further injury rather than because he is injured badly enough that he couldn't be out there. Lamar isn't out there due to his contract issue. If the knee was that bad he should have had surgery and gone to IR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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