Success Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just curious what others think - because I see that all the time on opposing fans message boards, and I don't relate to it. I think the window will be WIDE open as long as JA is QB, and Beane is GM. I don't need any more proof from either. JA is elite, and Beane seems like a wizard w/ the cap, who knows how to build an A1 team for today, and also keep an eye on building a model for success that's sustainable. We'll lose players like all great teams do, but he is a very good drafter, finds gems in FA, and has a real vision for keeping this team in contention. I think we'll be knocking on the door for a title every year for at least a decade. I tend to lean homer, but I also think this is objective based on how good these guys are at their jobs. What say you? 7 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Success said: I think the window will be WIDE open as long as JA is QB, and Beane is GM. Pretty much agree 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Pretty much agree Same although there may be a down year here or there while they reload. By down year like 9-8 or 10-7 and might miss the playoffs. Edited November 5, 2022 by Big Turk 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 With as good as Josh is, I agree. It would be nice to get started on their quest to win the last game. Brady had an 18 year window. Stability in coaching and front office will be key to keeping the window open. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 As long as Josh is our QB, our window is WIDE open 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Same although there may be a down year here or there while they reload. By down year like 9-8 or 10-7 and might miss the playoffs. We won’t be missing any playoffs with Josh ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 As Long as we draft well the window will be open for a very long time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I think we can be optimistic about the future without being overconfident. There’s always a window and it’s never certain when it will close. Look at the Colts. That looked like it would be a decade-long run, with great weapons, a great defense, and Andrew Luck. Then he retired. Look at the Texans. I would have imagined they’d win at least one SB with a 24 year old Deshaun plus Deandre Hopkins. Look at Seattle. Unbeatable defense with a young superstar QB, great fan base and front office… unbelievable WR tandem… then the window closed fast. Being overconfident or promising yourself 10 years of success is dangerous. That’s why every single year counts these next few. 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Several windows. Some bigger than others. 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Asset management. Draft, FA, retain and/or cut bait. First exam: Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, mrags said: As long as Josh is our QB, our window is WIDE open We won’t be missing any playoffs with Josh ever Can't really say that because if he misses time during a season we easily could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Honestly, about 12 more years. Can we win a couple championships in that span? I think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: Honestly, about 12 more years. Can we win a couple championships in that span? I think so. Lets hope so. Go Bills ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) I see several windows. This one has probably 3 years. When Von Miller, Diggs, Poyer, Hyde, White, Dawkins and Edmunds are either gone or have moved toward the back end of their careers, we hope another window has opened with a new set of young, controllable, and less costly assets to surround around Josh. As has been mentioned, the playoff caliber team window has 10-12 years in a row with a healthy #17. Hopefully 2-3 championship windows present themselves. That is why this year is so important. This is a good window and windows like these are rarely as open as this one right now. All Aboard! Edited November 5, 2022 by Wizard 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I gotta say I think, unlike Brady and Rodgers, Josh’s career will max out at 15 years based on the way he plays. He takes a beating and as soon as he loses his ability to get away from blitzers, he will be significantly lesser than what he is. We need to win one in the next four or five years. That’s gonna be Josh’s prime and our best shot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) More like an aircraft hangar door Edited November 5, 2022 by Coldfronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 McDermott has a great system in place on defense. Even when they are missing an all pro safety or Milano or Ed Oliver, they just plug someone in and play well. Having a defense that you never have to worry about and a ridiculous talent like Josh Allen at QB, they could win the AFCE for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Question….How many years can he keep the running part of his game going? When this starts to diminish … it will have an impact on his game as teams won’t have to respect this as much… So he will need to keep improving the passing element…which will eventually reach a ceiling… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Josh is the window. There's a chance he ends up on the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks before it's all said and done. And if that's the case, you're looking at three or more Super Bowl championships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, Success said: Just curious what others think - because I see that all the time on opposing fans message boards, and I don't relate to it. I think the window will be WIDE open as long as JA is QB, and Beane is GM. I don't need any more proof from either. JA is elite, and Beane seems like a wizard w/ the cap, who knows how to build an A1 team for today, and also keep an eye on building a model for success that's sustainable. We'll lose players like all great teams do, but he is a very good drafter, finds gems in FA, and has a real vision for keeping this team in contention. I think we'll be knocking on the door for a title every year for at least a decade. I tend to lean homer, but I also think this is objective based on how good these guys are at their jobs. What say you? I tend to agree with you. As long as Josh continues to have help surrounding him and solid Oline there's no telling how wide it can be. Defense has always been competitive under McD so that's likely not to change much. Don't want to take it for granted though because something could happen and that window can close pretty fast. But definitely going to enjoy every minute of it while it last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I see our "window" open as long as we have Josh at QB and Beane continues to build and manage the team well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 For only the second time in 5 decades of Bills fandom do I have 100% confident in our front office, coaching staff and ownership, the trifecta of stability. Josh has given us a championship window with his elite talents, but I also trust this FO to continue to find and develop these type of players and attract the right talent in free agency to sustain this window. I also feel the culture that was built here, the work ethic and the foundation for success has been firmly established and it won't leave here as long as the trifecta holds together. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 If by “window” you mean “time frame”, then yes, that time frame is as much as a decade or more long, subject to keeping our QB healthy, and maintaining a FO & coaching staff (Beane & McDermott or their equivalent) that know what the hell they are doing, and why the hell they are doing it, and an owner who will support them in doing their jobs. If these things are done we are golden imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Probably until Josh is about 44-45. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: I think we can be optimistic about the future without being overconfident. There’s always a window and it’s never certain when it will close. Look at the Colts. That looked like it would be a decade-long run, with great weapons, a great defense, and Andrew Luck. Then he retired. Look at the Texans. I would have imagined they’d win at least one SB with a 24 year old Deshaun plus Deandre Hopkins. Look at Seattle. Unbeatable defense with a young superstar QB, great fan base and front office… unbelievable WR tandem… then the window closed fast. Being overconfident or promising yourself 10 years of success is dangerous. That’s why every single year counts these next few. Nah, I’m just going to go ahead and believe as long as Allen is QB, the window is open… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Can't really say that because if he misses time during a season we easily could. Pretty much every other franchise in football could assume that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yes, we have window, it will last a long time as you say. The window closes when Josh is too old to do it, pending finding another stud QB to replace him. I don't think we have a smaller window within Josh's career. As long as he is here, we'll be good and have a shot! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Neo said: Asset management. Draft, FA, retain and/or cut bait. First exam: Poyer, Edmunds, Oliver. Gone, maybe, keep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) Pagula, Beane + McD, JA17 21 yrs Russ Brandon, can’t be repeated. Starts at the top. We can have pieces change but there’s no recovery for crap mgt. ask Browns, Lions. Edited November 5, 2022 by Since1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Wizard said: I see several windows. This one has probably 3 years. When Von Miller, Diggs, Poyer, Hyde, White, Dawkins and Edmunds are either gone or have moved toward the back end of their careers, we hope another window has opened with a new set of young, controllable, and less costly assets to surround around Josh. As has been mentioned, the playoff caliber team window has 10-12 years in a row with a healthy #17. Hopefully 2-3 championship windows present themselves. That is why this year is so important. This is a good window and wundiws are rarely this open than right now. All Aboard! This is how I see it. Case in point, Hyde and Poyer. Do I love them ? Yes! Should we spend big money on either, especially if we win a SB? Absolutely not! Beane needs to continue to work his magic while constantly and incrementally turning the roster over while not overpaying based on emotion. If things worked out perfectly, I could see three good windows. The first one opened two years ago. Had KC suffered a major injury in the playoffs we might have snuck in. Last year we should have been in. This year we should be in. Next year too. After that, we will see what happens rosterwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2032 ish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) figure about 15 more years ... and yes Josh will still have the strongest arm in the NFL Edited November 5, 2022 by gordong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: As Long as we draft well the window will be open for a very long time You are correct and I would add that Beane needs to avoid bad big dollar contracts (can't overpay for marginal players). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yes. It’s open right now. Win it this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) I was thinking about this as well. On one hand, I wondered how Josh would age. Clearly his current form isn't sustainable over the very long term. I also think Josh is a very intelligent player and will eventually turn into an Elway like QB late in his career, still able to run, but savvy enough that rarely has to. But even outside Josh, Beane is a witch. This is a playoff team without Josh nearly all hand picked. He is the best GM in football. So even taking Josh out of it, Beane should have us relevant as long as he is here. He's only 46 and seems to be very well adjusted. Maybe it's the last name, but I always envision him in real life like Brad Pitt in Moneyball in that scene he trades for a closing pitcher with Jonah Hill. Edited November 5, 2022 by KzooMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Definitely there is a window. There can also be multiple windows. We are in a window now where 2 years ago they were 1 game away from the super bowl and were pretty well disposed of by KC. They built it back up to purposefully beat KC and the following year had a team that could do it but blew it with 13 seconds left. This year we are quite possibly at the pinnacle of our first window of opportunity. How long will we stay at the top? History has shown not long. We very well could start to decline a bit next year already. Does that mean we will not be able to get it done? Nobody knows but as long as you have the QB then you are a contender. Brady had the Pats be a contender for close to 20 years but people forget there was a 10 year gap where they were very good but not a dominant team. I don't think Josh is a Brady type player that can play at this level for 20+ years so we will have less of a window than he had. He runs and takes hits and relies a lot on his legs and over time he will get slower and less elusive. He eats wings and drinks beer and fans love that but it will also result in him being out of shape as he gets into his 30's. His current situation is not sustainable long term. So it will come and it will go so it's important to capitalize on your opportunities. This year might be their best chance so hopefully they take care of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 There will be ebbs and flows over the next 10 or so years with a couple reloads, but other than those dips there will be incredible success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Starts at the top. Imagine if we had a Snyder/Irsay, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Kaenon said: Probably until Josh is about 44-45. and then later on once he becomes mecha Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Super Bowl windows open and close based on the great X factor which is health. As long as Number 17 feels good we can beat anybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 What I think is the reality: Go get that ring right now, and god it hurts that we didn't waltz to it last year. What I suspect: we'll always have a shot with Allen, Beane and McD. My concern (again, not what I think): the Seahawks story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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