ToGoGo Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: No, Von Miller is our Randy Moss Why not two? I didn't realize it was one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Can people stop suggesting Moss has any trade value whatsoever? Nobody wants him. As soon as they stop insisting that Akers has any trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: Can people stop suggesting Moss has any trade value whatsoever? Nobody wants him. Lol, yeah it's like some of those ppl talk sh*t about him and how bad he sucks and shouldn't get another carry etc...... Then will suggest him in some sort of trade scenario to get some other player lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Akers for Moss seems like equal trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, transient said: I don't know, an incentive laden deal for a talented player looking to bounce back from injury sounds familiar... Major brain fart here, but who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 4:56 PM, Solomon Grundy said: Is this legal? I dont know that I trust what this guy says but I dont follow what you are asking. Is what legal? ODB is a FA so they can talk and make any kind of handshake deal they want. 9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Why is OBJ still a FA? both Brady and Rodgers are in need of WR talent there must be something … Because no team is going to sign a player until they can pass an NFL physical and they see he can do their team drills. ODB is steal healing and isnt ready for that yet. 7 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Gabe Davis is like most likely gonezo if we sign this guy after this year right? I don't want that. I'll pass. Much rather have Davis. I still think the people that think he's coming here are in for a big surprise, but we will see. I dont think so. I think Beane is going to do what it takes to get Gabe signed. He is homegrown, young, and a good team fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Major brain fart here, but who? Most recently OJ Howard, but there have been a handful over his tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I think the opposite, have more need for WR than RB as the Bills are a passing team first and don't prioritize running the ball so whomever is back there, outside of S Barkley or CMC 2 RB's rumored at one point to be available, not sure adding a guy like Akers is going to make any difference. Looking at Rookie stats Akers and Moss weren't all that different IMO so how much of an upgrade is he? The Bills have 4 guys including D Johnson who likely can all do about the same if called upon and really given the chance, but as much as the Bills pass the ball successfully running is never going to be worked on all that much. My guess is during practice too passing is worked on a larger amount of time and with limited practice time these days hard to be good at it. Not sure Akers is at all...now many RBs coming off an Achilles tear have ever made it back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Last game the Bills went with three TE's active. May have also been the first game all year all three were actually healthy so the Bills could even consider doing that. But if they do that again this Sunday, 2 weeks is a trend. It also seemed to work pretty well having two TE's on the field at once. If the active game day roster includes; 3 TE's, 5 WR, 8 OL, 2 QB, 1 FB, that leaves room for 3 RB's including Jones. Doubt the team is going to sit out either Singletary or Cook for an Akers type level player. So why would the Bills even consider trading away a draft pick for a player who very likely wouldn't even be active barring injury? Add in that the team currently has 4 RB all of a skill level similar to Akers and yes am including Moss in there. The Bills passing game is so good, it doesn't make much sense to try and run all that much add to that they also don't seem to really commit much effort to their running game. So when an RB goes into the game and makes a mistake or has very limited success, his next stop seems to be the bench which doesn't help players all that much . I'm really not all the convinced if they really made an effort and stuck with someone that Moss also couldn't succeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 15 hours ago, transient said: I'm not saying this is or isn't true, but every player has to pass a physical before executing a contract, and there would likely be contingencies/offsets in the language given the injury he's coming off of. If OBJ is healthy he's going to play somewhere, why is it so hard to believe that someone would have an tentative agreement in place beforehand? I'd say because you can't even begin to value a players worth until you see them perform. I'd also suggest if they had a "tentative" deal in place that the Bills would want him in his playbook now and that there's no point in waiting to sign him if this "tentative" deal is in place. Lastly, why would people think Beane would leak this to some off shoot unheard of website reporter. Click bait BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I had a dream that Odell Beckham Jr. announced he was signing with the bills by making a dramatic social media video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, Bills!Win! said: I had a dream that Odell Beckham Jr. announced he was signing with the bills by making a dramatic social media video. Ok Lebron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 3:44 PM, Mark Long Beach said: Twitter Fight! Clean up the cafeteria and detention after school. Interesting to see within the space of a single tweet a guy bragging about his bank account, yet lamenting that contrary tweets are causing his children to go hungry. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 21 hours ago, Big Turk said: And Cam Akers? The first i had ever seen of this guy was his OBJ tweet. I was skeptical. Now I’m even more skeptical than I was initially. This just feels like someone making stuff up and tweeting it. One of those people who tweet about multiple different teams being a “front runner” for a player in the rumor mill and then claiming he was “right” if that player goes to any of the multiple teams they mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 20 hours ago, transient said: I'm not saying this is or isn't true, but every player has to pass a physical before executing a contract, and there would likely be contingencies/offsets in the language given the injury he's coming off of. If OBJ is healthy he's going to play somewhere, why is it so hard to believe that someone would have an tentative agreement in place beforehand? the idea is not a stretch at LL of having some incentive heavy framework in place but need to wait till he is cleared to play evrn before a team evaluated him in a physical. is he old enough to understand his role on the team? He would not be 1 or 2. If you think 3 is a slot receiver, which I don’t see him, he’d be a 4 or 5 who’d be a back up in case 1 or 2 need to sit out a game. buffalo could have its seeding wrapped up before week 17 game at Cincinnati. You have Allen and Diggs sitting out / limited role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 8 hours ago, babulator said: I'd say because you can't even begin to value a players worth until you see them perform. I'd also suggest if they had a "tentative" deal in place that the Bills would want him in his playbook now and that there's no point in waiting to sign him if this "tentative" deal is in place. Lastly, why would people think Beane would leak this to some off shoot unheard of website reporter. Click bait BS. C’mon. OBJ is enough of a known commodity that IF he’s healthy enough to play both sides would have an idea of what they’re looking for in a deal. And as far as the playbook, that’s absurd. Do you really think a veteran WR is going to have a problem picking up this offense. He seemed to pick up the Rams playbook just fine last season when he joined them in November. As far as a leak, if this turns out to be true, why would you assume it was Beane that was responsible. I’m not at all saying this is true, I’m just saying that if OBJ is planning on returning sometime in November, being that he’s a free agent, it wouldn’t be at all surprising if he and his agent had a framework for a deal already in place with a team, and there has been smoke all season long linking him to the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) On 10/12/2022 at 7:38 AM, Greybeard said: To be fair to Shakir, the Bills actually have to be in a Championship game before you can make that comparison. To be fair, OBJ’s catches and yards in a Championship game are greater than Shakir’s career totals. Edited October 29, 2022 by mjohns85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, mjohns85 said: To be fair, OBJ’s catches and yards in a Championship game are greater than Shakir’s career totals. Coming off a torn ACL, I wouldn't shell out much for him, nor would I expect much either. He won't be "the old OBJ" playing only a few games this year with no training camp. I *would* like the Bills to get another WR who can play out wide in case Diggs or Davis get hurt again, but I don't know who they could get that would be any good AND would fit under the cap. Nice if they could nab a WR who had potential coming out of college recently, but hasn't put it together wherever they are so far. If you could nab a guy like that, he could be a long-term investment instead of just a vet that you trade for or sign completely expecting him to be gone after the season. I thought the Chiefs' trade for Kadarius Toney was a good gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 OBJ is a free agent so no draft capital is needed and he won’t be expensive as hes not going to play until December. He’s shopping himself for next year. We need the cheap labor in our draft picks to counter Allen’s and the other expensove contracts Beane has extended (all of which I agree). Its these conditions that draws me to wanting OBJ as our third guy. He certainly would be better if healthy than what we have on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: OBJ is a free agent so no draft capital is needed and he won’t be expensive as hes not going to play until December. He’s shopping himself for next year. We need the cheap labor in our draft picks to counter Allen’s and the other expensove contracts Beane has extended (all of which I agree). Its these conditions that draws me to wanting OBJ as our third guy. He certainly would be better if healthy than what we have on the roster. Especially if it is a 2 year deal he would likely get one more short deal after this if he is still effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Yeah Mike. He was playing well in the playoffs last year and was a significant portion of why the Rams won the SB. A soon as he was hurt in the game, the offense sputtered. Beane wouldn’t bring him one r if the team doctors and trainers didn’t sign off on his health from the surgery. I’ve heard enough doctors on various sites like NFLR who say the liklihood of a second ACL after a first one is significant. We’ll, he’s had two now. Someone else will pay him a much larger number than us next year. He’s a rental for the drive to win the championship this year. We have enough draft capital, and Shakir will likely continue to develop into his 2nd year. So bottom line, is no draft picks to give up, a short contract to finish this year, and only if he’s 100%. Why wouldn’t a Bills fan want that to close the year strong. We already have barring no other Hyde like injuries the deepest roster in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) The same people who don’t want OBJ are the same people who think that 4th-7th round picks are all valuable Edited October 30, 2022 by Bills!Win! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said: The same people who don’t want OBJ are the same people who think that 4th-7th round picks are all valuable Well… those are the picks that the Bills use to select their WR’s in the draft Just sayin… they don’t seem fond of Picking WR’s on Days 1-2 Edited October 30, 2022 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: What was this in response eto? What play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, boyst said: What was this in response eto? What play? There was a buffalo in his yard. Those damn buffalo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Until he posts a workout video I’m not buying into anything he anyone else says about playing football (for the Bills). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, TheWeatherMan said: Until he posts a workout video I’m not buying into anything he anyone else says about playing football (for the Bills). I heard he has a documentary or something coming out soon which will show his rehab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said: Until he posts a workout video I’m not buying into anything he anyone else says about playing football (for the Bills). All hype. Trying to keep his market up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 3:24 PM, Bangarang said: Can people stop suggesting Moss has any trade value whatsoever? Nobody wants him. Wrong. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just come here or don't. This whole thing needs to stop. Honestly my life doesn't revolve around checking this threat at least 5 or 6 times a day for any little hope that things get done (please). I'm a grown man with responsibilities dang it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Goin Breakdown said: Just come here or don't. This whole thing needs to stop. Honestly my life doesn't revolve around checking this threat at least 5 or 6 times a day for any little hope that things get done (please). I'm a grown man with responsibilities dang it. It's always been November/December that this whole thing was going to be decided due to his recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Just come here or don't. This whole thing needs to stop. Honestly my life doesn't revolve around checking this threat at least 5 or 6 times a day for any little hope that things get done (please). I'm a grown man with responsibilities dang it. You need not bother until after Thanksgiving at least. The soonest he could play is mid December and it is highly unlikely anyone will offer him a contract until he can demonstrate ability to play this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 9:11 PM, Bills!Win! said: The same people who don’t want OBJ are the same people who think that 4th-7th round picks are all valuable To the Bills they are. Laugh all you want but the Bills have been great at drafting players in rounds 4-7. Since either McDermott or Beane have been here the Bills have drafted: Matt Milano- 5th round Taron Johnson-4th round Siran Neal- 5th round Wyatt Teller- 5th round(mistake) Jaquan Johnson- 6th round Gabriel Davis 4th round Tyler Bass- 6th round Dane Jackson- 7th round Damar Hamlin- 6th round Khalil Shakir- 5th round Christian Benford- 6th round This doesn’t even include guys still in the league like Ray Ray McCloud or fringe guys like Tommy Sweeney, Tommy Doyle, or Daryl Johnson 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 If I had to guess, the bills won't even bring him in for the regular season (assuming they'd sign him). Bet a 6 pack they'd sign him for the playoffs. Why bring him in to risk injury? Maybe sign him with a few weeks left in the season and get him up to game speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: To the Bills they are. Laugh all you want but the Bills have been great at drafting players in rounds 4-7. Since either McDermott or Beane have been here the Bills have drafted: Matt Milano- 5th round Taron Johnson-4th round Siran Neal- 5th round Wyatt Teller- 5th round(mistake) Jaquan Johnson- 6th round Gabriel Davis 4th round Tyler Bass- 6th round Dane Jackson- 7th round Damar Hamlin- 6th round Khalil Shakir- 5th round Christian Benford- 6th round This doesn’t even include guys still in the league like Ray Ray McCloud or fringe guys like Tommy Sweeney, Tommy Doyle, or Daryl Johnson This is the example of why you trade the early rounds for known commodities in the league once you have your QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Well OBJ is definitely not going back to LA. I bet the Von recruitment will be enough to get him to Buffalo this winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: To the Bills they are. Laugh all you want but the Bills have been great at drafting players in rounds 4-7. Since either McDermott or Beane have been here the Bills have drafted: Matt Milano- 5th round Taron Johnson-4th round Siran Neal- 5th round Wyatt Teller- 5th round(mistake) Jaquan Johnson- 6th round Gabriel Davis 4th round Tyler Bass- 6th round Dane Jackson- 7th round Damar Hamlin- 6th round Khalil Shakir- 5th round Christian Benford- 6th round This doesn’t even include guys still in the league like Ray Ray McCloud or fringe guys like Tommy Sweeney, Tommy Doyle, or Daryl Johnson And although they weren’t drafted by Beane it’s worth mentioning that Diggs, Hyde, Poyer, and Daquan Jones were day 3 picks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, FLFan said: You need not bother until after Thanksgiving at least. The soonest he could play is mid December and it is highly unlikely anyone will offer him a contract until he can demonstrate ability to play this year. Yeah very true. Still it's like waiting for that mail to arrive. Got Vin Miller talking about it all the time and OBJ tweeting lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 OBJ is in ring chasing mode. Buffalo is the flavor of the moment. His buddy Von is here and putting on the full court press. He probably hears great things about Allen, his gun, and getting the WRs the ball. He hears about the “Mafia” and all the fun we’re having here. Assuming he can actually play at a high level again, i believe he will sign here, specifically for this playoff season. Not sure of anything beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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