Why I Want to Beat the Phins so bad this week

[mjd1001]

I have lost my 'hate' for specific teams as the years have gone by. Not quite sure.  Only 2 ideas I have why I may dislike a team more than another. 1.)  When I see a fanbase act like entitled jerks more than other teams.  2.)  When a team gets 'too good' for 'too long' and I just want to see something different.

 

I really don't have any dislike for Miami right now because they don't fit into either of those categories for me.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

16 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

I like the City, i have friends there, but agreed, the Browns have become unlikable in a way I didnt think possible, like a Heel in old school wrestling

I actually really liked the city the last time I was there. The Rock and Roll hall of fame is fun, I liked the Michael Symon restaurant I got to go to, the Cleveland Children's Museum was a blast as a kid, and I have family that needed to make regular trips to the Cleveland Clinic so I have nothing wrong with the city itself. But this stuff is new lows

 

 

[BuffaloBills1998]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I do want to shut up the Tua narrative that he’s good.

They’re only two games in, but I do believe that McDaniel has helped him turn the corner. So far he’s been better than Flores ever was

[Gen2]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

I've learned today that the posters from the 70s are not the best, to put it nicely.

How about posters from the 50's ????

[Royale with Cheese]

13 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I actually really liked the city the last time I was there. The Rock and Roll hall of fame is fun, I liked the Michael Symon restaurant I got to go to, the Cleveland Children's Museum was a blast as a kid, and I have family that needed to make regular trips to the Cleveland Clinic so I have nothing wrong with the city itself. But this stuff is new lows

 

 

 

I'm so glad that blew a 13 point lead with 2:00 minutes to play.

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

They’re only two games in, but I do believe that McDaniel has helped him turn the corner. So far he’s been better than Flores ever was

 

We'll see.  I heard this when they had a 7 game winning streak last year and won 7 of 9 in 2020 only to lose to the Bills by a lot in the finale where they didn't make the playoffs and we played our back ups.

[eball]

33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm so glad that blew a 13 point lead with 2:00 minutes to play.

 

 

To the JETS.  Bwahahahahahahahaha...

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, eball said:

 

To the JETS.  Bwahahahahahahahaha...

 

With 50 year old Joe Flacco too!

[Sestak4ever]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Some guys in this thread are old. 

I remember a game in 1975 against the Phins where a Miami fumble, late in a close game, went between the legs of an official. Pat Toomay, who the Bills picked up in the offseason from Dallas, went to retrieve the ball and knocked the official over as the ball was rolling between the official’s legs. Toomay recovered the fumble but was flagged for contacting an official. It cost us the game and the losing streak to Miami would have ended. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.

[BuffaloMatt]

Really not worried:

 

 

 

They beat a meh Patriots team and only scored 20.  Prior to the 4th quarter of Ravens game they put up only 17 points between the second half of Pats game and 3 quarters of the Ravens game. 

[smuvtalker]

2 hours ago, Greg S said:

I live in NJ so for me its the Jets who I enjoy seeing the Bills beat the most. Many family, friends, co-workers are Jets fans. I don't know one Dolphin or Pats fan. Anyway this week Squish the Fish.

My ex boss, from 2001 to 2004, was a diehard Jets fan.  Needless to say, those were three of the most frustratingly difficult years of my life.....

 

I took a job paying less money AND 30 minutes further away from home simply for the peace of mind lol....

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Really not worried:

 

 

 

They beat a meh Patriots team and only scored 20.  Prior to the 4th quarter of Ravens game they put up only 17 points between the second half of Pats game and 3 quarters of the Ravens game. 

 

7 of those points against NE were a defensive score as well.  

[Ramza86]

I live in Miami and the fans are on a big high right now. 

 

I think im ok with them being happy....but we should stomp them into the ground. If we were 100% healthy wed prolly blow them out of the water.

 

So im hoping we get healthy and stomp them so I dont have to sweat and or deal with the fans and media down here for the rest of the year.

[Mark Vader]

4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

I guess because Miami is a big market or something the Dolphins get a ton of undeserved hype. Like you said, any sign of possible quality play and the media jumps on board. They're like the Cowboys of the AFC. 

 

Can't stand it.

This.

 

The Dolphins are a glamour team with a rich history. The media loves to lift these teams up.

[Wayne Arnold]

I didn't hate the Dolphins much until Jimmy Johnson - this game specifically. Johnson celebrated in the locker room with Flutie Flakes.

 

 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Went to Buffalo at Miami game in 2003. If there is a Hell it must feel a lot like leaving that humid ***** hole stadium after Bills got their a$$es kicked. Freakin Travis Henry pass. Ironically we were 2-0 going into that game too after beating the crap out Pats at the Lawyer Malloy game and taking care of J-Ville pretty easily. Very different team though. Squish the nasty fish. Go Bills

[Jay_Fixit]

6 hours ago, Art in PNS said:

0 for the 70"s , nuff said.

Division rival. Or

A game. Or

A team that isn’t Buffalo.

 

Nuff said.

[BuffaloBill]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Some guys in this thread are old. 

 

 

I’d like to laugh but I am one of the grumpy old men around here.

[Nextmanup]

7 hours ago, Art in PNS said:

0 for the 70"s , nuff said.

That is so dead now, it's not relevant any more.

 

The rivalry between these two teams died close to 20 years ago, if not more.

 

But Bills fans for some reason love to keep it alive and pretend it's real.

 

We have a MUCH bigger rivalry going with KC now, for example.

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

7 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Obviously, we all want the Bills to throttle the Dolphins. But as I am getting ready for this game I've realized: I don't think there's a team left on the schedule who I so viciously want to dominate, and that puzzled me.

 

Obviously, I want to knock off the Chiefs but we proved that it can be done in the regular season last year, and if we don't manage it Week 6, there's darn good odds that we get another bite at the apple in January.

 

I want the Bills to beat the Ravens so I can have bragging rights versus a buddy of mine. I want the Bills to beat the Browns because eff those guys. But there is no one else left on the schedule that I would dread losing to. So why are the Dolphins bothering me so much?

Basically, it comes down to this: I remember back to 2020. The Bills had knocked off the Jets by a safe margin and edged out a division rival in the Dolphins (Fitz has played out of his mind) but now was the moment that the world told them they were in for a reality check. They were headed in to face the Rams, who had been to the Superbowl and had aspirations. And so the world said, "alright nice story but now it's time for a reality check". Sure, Stephon Diggs was a nice addition, and maybe they would scrap in but now they would be facing an elite team. Now, we know what happened as the end result, which is why we shouldn't get too cocky.

 

But I don't remember many "Man, this would be a statement win for the Bills" takes. I don't remember many "Josh Allen will be on the short list for MVP if this goes well" takes. I don't remember people asking if the Rams had been anointed too soon. And yet, I am hearing this level of hype for the Dolphins and it boggles my mind. I have heard legit questions of Tua being a dark horse MVP candidate after 7/8 quarters of meh play.

 

It took the Bills taking the 2nd seed and smacking the Ravens in the playoffs to be treated as legit contenders, and we still got "they're a nice underdog story". And, god forbid, if we lose, the Dolphins hold the head to head tiebreak and a 2-0 division record until we face them again...in mid-December.

 

I want this narrative to die horribly, and now. 

 

Bury 'em boys.

 

This is why this game is simply massive.

 

We lose and we might not have a chance to retake division lead until December again. And looking ahead at Miami's schedule it's much more inviting than the Bills who still have some very tough matchups ahead in the coming weeks.

[Greg S]

3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

That is so dead now, it's not relevant any more.

 

The rivalry between these two teams died close to 20 years ago, if not more.

 

But Bills fans for some reason love to keep it alive and pretend it's real.

 

We have a MUCH bigger rivalry going with KC now, for example.

 

 

 

I don't know if I would call the Chiefs a rival even with the recent playoff games. But Mahomes vs Allen are like the modern day Brady vs Manning matchups.

[RoyBatty is alive]

7 hours ago, Art in PNS said:

0 for the 70"s , nuff said.

is this the upshot of this long winded post?

[ArtVandalay]

15 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

My hatred of Dolphins in the 70s eclipsed my hatred of the ***Pats under Belichick and Brady (maybe because I was younger then)

 

But, ultimately: **** both of them

I hate the 90s Dolphins more than the Pats. 

 

We were never good at the same time as the Pats, when we were good they sucked, when we sucked they were good. There has never been a real rivalry,  unlike the 90s Bills v Dolphins. 

[billsherd]

Media does like dolphins I can see from the 2-0 start.  I have been in miami last couple of days there is already so much bills mafia presence here. This should be a good game. 

[machine gun kelly]

No, there is nothing sweeter than when we destroy the Pats.  I just want to win so we put the whole Tua hype to bed.  Allen has beat the Fish 7 of the last 8 times, and nearly even beat them if Clay didn’t drop the ball.

 

Virg made good points in his thread about how the rookie Ravens corners were torched by the Dolphins.  The Bills are a much better coached team, and will win Sunday.  The pundits will be out with pitchforks on Miami on Monday.

[CSBill]

22 hours ago, Art in PNS said:

0 for the 70"s , nuff said.

 

Lived through that, so I will always be a fish hater.

 

But, Back to the Future: Winning this weekend is huge because we do not want to give this team any hope. They need to walk out of the stadium on Sunday wondering if they can ever beat this monster from up north. Do not give them even a glimmer of hope. End the AFC race this weekend Beat the fish, along with a Pats and Jets loss, and you can phone AFC East in.

 

Don't just squish the fish this weekend, curb stomp them, and then grind them under your steel-toe boots. Crush them!!!  😝

[The Red King]

I don't want the 'phins fans and the media treating Miami like gods, and claiming Tua is the second coming just because our starting secondary is all injured.  I think I have an idea where Tua's got that horseshoe shoved. >.<

[Rigotz]

It's a shame the Bills are so banged up. Tua is going to look decent against our 2nd string DB's and our offense is going to put up points, so he'll be slinging it.

 

I think we win, but it probably won't be a beat-down, so regardless we'll have to hear the Tua hype and how "explosive" their offense is for another few weeks.

[Toyo321]

 

 TUA & Them Damn

 

 

[Real McClappy]

The early 90's Bills vs Phins rivalry was epic. For 7-8 yrs the Tuna fans would come here and literally get punched in the mouth. I can remember so, so many fights in the stands at Ralph, all over the stadium and in the lots. The crowd would "ohh and awe" the damn fights. lol

 

Looks like it's all about to pop again? We owned them back then liked we own them now.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Real McNasty

[DCbillsfan]

It seems the media is always waiting for the Dolphins to show any sign of improvement.  Then they pump them up to a point where you either love Miami or hate them.  It's impossible to remain indifferent or neutral.  I've been around long enough to live through the 70s where we lost every game to Miami.  There were some close games back then but never a win.  My favorite Dolphins moment was the Bills trashed the Dolphins in a playoff game and the Dolphins defensive coordinator cried during the post game show.  Kelly and company just shredded them that day.

[Xwnyer]

On 9/22/2022 at 8:24 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

I do want to shut up the Tua narrative that he’s good.

Kinda like the narrative last year about Mac Jones.  Hoping with just rushing we can rattle the hell out of Tua .  Hill and waddle will make big plays as will Gasecki if we can’t hassle the hell out of Tua

[SCBills]

Dolphins fans on Twitter seem to be celebrating the fact we have so many guys hurt on defense.   
 

I understand pointing it out, but to make jokes about it and clown the guys filling in for them is begging for an attitude adjustment.  
 

Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t see a Von Miller led, McDermott/Frazier coached defense getting yolked up.  Elam, Benford and Johnson are all good players.. with a week to prepare as starters, I feel confident that they’ll step up. 
 

This coaching staff knows how to get the most out of the secondary.  Anytime the defense has struggled under McD, it’s been due to DL issues, whether lack of pass rush or inability to stop the run.  Even without Oliver and Phillips, this DL still has waves of talent to throw at the Dolphins. 
 

 

Edited September 24, 2022 by SCBills

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Dolphins fans on Twitter seem to be celebrating the fact we have so many guys hurt on defense.   
 

I understand pointing it out, but to make jokes about it and clown the guys filling in for them is begging for an attitude adjustment.  
 

Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t see a Von Miller led, McDermott/Frazier coached defense getting yolked up.  Elam, Benford and Johnson are all good players.. with a week to prepare as starters, I feel confident that they’ll step up. 
 

This coaching staff knows how to get the most out of the secondary.  Anytime the defense has struggled under McD, it’s been due to DL issues, whether lack of pass rush or inability to stop the run.  Even without Oliver and Phillips, this DL still has waves of talent to throw at the Dolphins. 
 

 

Yep.  We’ve either been gashed on the ground or can’t get to the QB.  We aren’t going to let WR run free down the field like the Ravens did.

 

[TBBills]

17 hours ago, Rigotz said:

It's a shame the Bills are so banged up. Tua is going to look decent against our 2nd string DB's and our offense is going to put up points, so he'll be slinging it.

 

I think we win, but it probably won't be a beat-down, so regardless we'll have to hear the Tua hype and how "explosive" their offense is for another few weeks.

You know Tua is the QB right? The Bills feast on average QBs.

[Playoffs?]

This thread here is a big reason why I hope the Bills beat them badly:

 

https://finheaven.com/threads/josh-allen-says-he-can-relate-to-tua-tagovailoa-is-proud-of-him.374413/

Just now, Playoffs? said:

This thread here is a big reason why I hope the Bills beat them badly:

 

https://finheaven.com/threads/josh-allen-says-he-can-relate-to-tua-tagovailoa-is-proud-of-him.374413/

The parts about Josh being whiny and the most overrated QB in the NFL, and “Tua’s ceiling being Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, and his floor being Russell Wilson” are the best parts. Unreal, these jackasses. 

[frostbitmic]

They're next on the schedule is enough reason for me.

 

Nothing on a Sunday makes me happier than a Bills win and a patriots loss.

[SydneyBillsFan]

My beloved Sydney Swans just got humiliated in the Australian Football League Grand Final 133-52.

 

Please win this game and then win a Superbowl - nothing less will diminish my pain.

[BigDingus]

On 9/22/2022 at 6:58 AM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

But I don't remember many "Man, this would be a statement win for the Bills" takes. I don't remember many "Josh Allen will be on the short list for MVP if this goes well" takes. 

 

I do, as there were many times people in the media & around the league would point out the lack of "signature wins."

 

2019 - Patriots, week 4 (Bills were 3-0, playing at home against Tom Brady & the 3-0 Patriots). Didn't go well, Allen threw 3 x INT's, sacked 5 times & got injured.

2019 - Cowboys, Thanksgiving (Cowboys weren't great, but had a winning record). Allen played perfect, and put the Bills on everyone's radar

2020 - Chiefs, week 6 (Bills 4-1, coming off the COVID game, vs defending SB champs, 4-1 Chiefs). Team was still no-showing in the 3rd, Allen threw for 122 yards

2020 - Patriots, week 8 (Pats weren't good, but still the division's boogeyman). Got the monkey off our back & Allen's 1st win against the Pats!

2020 - Steelers, week 14 (Pittsburg was 11-1 going into it, big SNF game). Defense held them down all game, beat them down on primetime

2021 - Chiefs, week 5 (Obviously, biggest non-playoff game in ages for us). Bills came out & beat the brakes off the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Statement win.

2021 - Patriots, WC (It took until week 16 for us to reclaim the division lead, so many picked the Pats in an upset). Allen & co. put on a clinic, executing a virtually flawless performance & exorcising any demons of Belichick's Pats haunting the team.

 

You could also throw in the 2020 WC against the Colts, as it marked both a return to Orchard Park in the post season and our first playoff win in decades. 

 

I'd argue all of these games, win or lose, meant more to the development of this team & were hyped up as signature matchups/statement games. They all highlighted where the Bills were improving, or where they needed to grow. And all of them had a significant impact on the Bills' reputation in national conversation.

 

[TheWei44]

29 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

I do, as there were many times people in the media & around the league would point out the lack of "signature wins."

 

2019 - Patriots, week 4 (Bills were 3-0, playing at home against Tom Brady & the 3-0 Patriots). Didn't go well, Allen threw 3 x INT's, sacked 5 times & got injured.

2019 - Cowboys, Thanksgiving (Cowboys weren't great, but had a winning record). Allen played perfect, and put the Bills on everyone's radar

2020 - Chiefs, week 6 (Bills 4-1, coming off the COVID game, vs defending SB champs, 4-1 Chiefs). Team was still no-showing in the 3rd, Allen threw for 122 yards

2020 - Patriots, week 8 (Pats weren't good, but still the division's boogeyman). Got the monkey off our back & Allen's 1st win against the Pats!

2020 - Steelers, week 14 (Pittsburg was 11-1 going into it, big SNF game). Defense held them down all game, beat them down on primetime

2021 - Chiefs, week 5 (Obviously, biggest non-playoff game in ages for us). Bills came out & beat the brakes off the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Statement win.

2021 - Patriots, WC (It took until week 16 for us to reclaim the division lead, so many picked the Pats in an upset). Allen & co. put on a clinic, executing a virtually flawless performance & exorcising any demons of Belichick's Pats haunting the team.

 

You could also throw in the 2020 WC against the Colts, as it marked both a return to Orchard Park in the post season and our first playoff win in decades. 

 

I'd argue all of these games, win or lose, meant more to the development of this team & were hyped up as signature matchups/statement games. They all highlighted where the Bills were improving, or where they needed to grow. And all of them had a significant impact on the Bills' reputation in national conversation.

 

Think you'd have to add the 13 seconds game and the Rams game this season as well in terms of games that continued to launch the Bills onto the national radar.  

[folz]

On 9/22/2022 at 8:01 AM, Art in PNS said:

0 for the 70"s , nuff said.

 

Some of the young'uns don't fully understand Miami week. It ain't what it used to be, but we remember. And having Tyreek and all this hype, makes me want the win even more.

 

SQUISH THE DAMN FISH!!!!!!!