Motorin' Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m interested if you had this guy in any of your 1000 mock drafts… even in the 7th…? I didn't. I honestly didn't recognize the name... But several scouting services had a 3rd round grade on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Media call https://www.buffalobills.com/video/terrel-bernard-one-of-my-biggest-dreams Seems like a smart dude. Fits the bill to be a Bill. Probably our 4th round pick. Seems he would have lasted to then, but we don't have a pick that round. Seems Bills were heavily invested in him in the pre-draft process. Expect him to be a coverage guy. Seems he excels in that. Speedy. One thing Edmunds can't do. Like the dude for sure! Edited April 30, 2022 by davefan66 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Fair enough , I did miss the Milano 2.0. My apologies. All good. You’re probably right. Backup/st in the 3rd rd. I’m just trying to see the what McBs vision would be. I don’t think Core STer is their vision. Sure hope not anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That was my thought, Milano backup/possible Milano replacement. But I do wonder if they think they can convert him to Safety? Did Beane say he could play Safety? Way too slow for safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Sure. I think that's promising and explains some of the thought process behind it, but how is this guy gonna see the field? Barring an injury, is he pushing Milano or Edmunds for a spot? I don't think that's likely. Are we running more base package? I don't know about that either. We had other LBs play last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Kiper hates the pick as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Bills had some good timing on this LB pick. There were 2 picked after by the Chiefs and Dolphins. Beane showing the draft wisdom as expected. Edited April 30, 2022 by DieHardBillsFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I needed some time to "process" this pick... I have come upon my conclusion: Vosean Joseph 2.0 (except Joseph was taken in the 5th... FIFTH... round - 2019). -Undersized LB "tweener". -Fast trigger. -Made splash plays, but also got duped, from time to time. -Vicious tackler, but undisciplined. From the bit of snatching at straws I've done, Bernard seems to be more disciplined, and a better character / smarts guy. TWO ROUNDS better, though? Well... I hope so... I really effin hope so. Beane: You are testing all of our collective hope. I'm praying you're right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 59 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Now I'm actually mad we didn't trade up for Jameson Williams i think hes mad we didn’t too. its between him and Stephon Gilmore for the least happy draft day face of all time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, junior said: Watched the 3 or 4 YouTube videos I could find on him... Kid just sifts through traffic to make the play. And he absolutely fires his gun when he sees a play develop/sees a QB who's vulnerable. Remember the KC game when NO ONE on defense could bring down Mahomes? Maybe that's where Bernard fits in. This. Also, have read several other valuable ideas here. Potential to cover these monster TE's. Contain Rb's. Effective blitzer. Big Nickel guy that McD could find fun uses for. Future of the game is a smaller, faster LB'er. ^^^ all things we struggled with, or dont have. Guy could be a switch army knife situationally (in many diff roles). McD is one of the smarter defensive thinkers in the league, hoping he has plans for him that us dumb folk arenr privy too. Be interesting to hear how used in TC and pre-season 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Lotta hopes in there. Sigh. Yeah the roster is a bit lopsided in terms of pedigree. 6 first and second rounders on offense........Allen, Diggs(trade), Dawkins, Morse, Saffold and now Cook. 10 first and second rounders on defense........Miller, Oliver, Rousseau, Phillips, Basham, Epenesa, Shaq, Edmunds, White and now Elam. And of course........the spending on defense has been massive. 6 of the back 7 is either on a big second contract or on a fat one year deal(Edmunds). If they underachieve again next season and end up back on the road in January it's most likely going to be for the same reason as last year........a lack of quality and depth on the OL and not enough juice in the WR corps. Not over yet though........still some good veterans out there. Better talent at veteran WR than is left at CB. Edited April 30, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Wait a minute....so round 1 an athletic corner, with man/zone press skills and recovery speed. Then now this is round 3, an instinctive cover LB who can lock up on TEs. Seems like we are trying to fix something that must have been a glaring weakness against KC. Not sure why so many feel the need to say "I had so and so as a 6th rounder", or what value is he going to bring. Hello, Beane and staff know what they're doing, and have a plan to keep adding the necessary pieces to put us over the top. I'm sure if you go back and rematch thr KC game, our lack of speed on defense will stand out in more than 1 occasion. We needed to fix that, and our physicality at the DT spots...check and check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Tampa's two LB's are among my favorite. 6 ft 237 and 6'1" 233.. Let this young man add 10-13 lbs and he'll at their size. It's the new norm soon for combating NFL offenses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Kiper hates the pick as well Kiper is wrong a lot more than he is right. His fellow mock draft “expert” Mayock just might be the worst GM of the last 20 years too. Who cares what Kiper thinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: This. Also, have read several other valuable ideas here. Potential to cover these monster TE's. Contain Rb's. Effective blitzer. Big Nickel guy that McD could find fun uses for. Future of the game is a smaller, faster LB'er. ^^^ all things we struggled with, or dont have. Guy could be a switch army knife situationally (in many diff roles). McD is one of the smarter defensive thinkers in the league, hoping he has plans for him that us dumb folk arenr privy too. Be interesting to hear how used in TC and pre-season I agree. McBeane didn't take this guy without having a vision for him. He's a playmaker, and McDermott will find ways for him to make plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 From the comments under that highlight video: "ATG MVP Sports Highlights 25 minutes ago He wore 34 in 2017, 26 from 2018-2020, and 2 in 2021!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 So the thought process from what I'm reading/hearing is that Beane believes that Bernard can backup up both Milano and Tremaine Edmunds, what he lacks in size he can make up with athletic ability. If that's the case and can indeed play both without missing the athletic ability of either of those LB's than I love this pick her because lets face when both Milano and Edmunds went down to injuries, we weren't as efficient and rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Will unlock after Beane finishes trading for 34 more 6th round picks I have not idea who this player is but I did not like this pick and hated all of the 6th round draft picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Theme of this draft is speed and more speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) I think McDermott's intel from his friend Dave Aranda, head coach at Baylor, probably was a decisive favor in drafting Bernard. Edited April 30, 2022 by Bag of Milk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Josh ***** Allen! Diggs, Davis, knox, Cook, motor, crowder, Mckenzie, Howard, Dawkins, Saffold, Morse….. miller, Oliver, tredavious, Poyer, Hyde, Johnson, Rousseau, Milano, edmunds, elam we have a very good team + the best player in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) Ok, now I see. He's the big nickel that McD has been begging for. He hoped Siren Neal was that guy but it didn't happen, Terrel has what he wants to complete his defense. He has the speed and instincts to attack the short and intermediate zones while being able to bring heat on opposing QB's and RB's when it's available. Taking away the quick underneath routes while staying in a controlled zone coverage. This is definitely a McDermott pick. There's just something about him that he likes, and Beane let it happen. If it fails, then blame him. Edited April 30, 2022 by ScorpionZero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Are his arms long enough? What does the research say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 It is kind of hilarious, there have been so many people on here begging for the Bills to get a LB, Bean Drafts one and suddenly it's "Not that one!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Turk71 said: Are his arms long enough? What does the research say? I think what your saying is a joke, but I've never thought of long enough arms, how tall you are, or any of that stuff. Do those things give you an advantage, absolutely. But I want a guy no matter what, lives, breaths and eats football, and the such. I believe that your either a football player or your not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 59 minutes ago, london_bills said: I was pleased with a RB selection but thought it should have been OL after Saying you want a team draft a certain position in a certain round will never make any sense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) The way I am seeing this draft is, as this regime has said in the past, "We are building a team, not collecting talent." I think all 3 of these guys fill in to what the team needs (see below). Also, McBeane always looks at what went wrong last year and tries to fix that, as well as keeping up with the Jones'. Well first things first, we have to look at Kansas City and the 13 seconds, and then the upsurging AFC (Bengals, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, etc.). We are going to face a lot of great QBs over the next couple of years. And where were we weak last year? Defensive speed (particularly over the middle of the field) against fast teams (WRs/TEs), with good QBs. Elam should be an upgrade to Levi and is much faster. And instead of eliminating just one weapon on Tre Island, hopefully (eventually), we can have two shutdown corners, making it tough on two pass catchers. They can play more man and not have to compensate for anyone (Levi or Dane). And this pick (LB Terrell Bernard Pick 89) may look bad because most draft experts will say, "eh he's a tweener" and not rate him as high, knowing that some teams will not want/pick a tweener because of their defensive system. But, as Milano has shown, that type of player fits perfectly in our system. So it might not be a great pick here for another team, but it may be for Buffalo. And as good as Milano is, he has been oft injured and the defense usually takes a big hit/drop when he is out. So, first off, Bernard is insurance for a Milano injury, that our coverage doesn't suffer if he is out. But also, remember when Klein first got some starts and he looked awful? That's because best case scenario, they needed him to be able to cover. But that wasn't his skillset, so they had to adapt things. They don't have to adapt with Bernard. In certain situations against certain teams, they could go with 3 LBs and two of them (Milano and Bernard) are fast and can cover. Does the 13 seconds happen last year if you swap in Elam for Levi and Bernard for Klein? Maybe not...plus we got Von now too! I feel like they are addressing a serious weakness that they saw. And finally with Cook, we now have a legit hr threat (speed-wise) in and coming out of the backfield. This was obviously an area they wanted to upgrade as seen by the attempt at signing McKissic and then adding Duke. I don't know enough about these individual players (I don't watch a lot of college ball) to know if they will all reach the potential the Bills see in them. But the picks do seem to make sense to me when you match up the player's traits and our needs (where the team felt that they needed to get better). And there is nothing wrong with adding speed, speed, and more speed. As for WR, I didn't see that as a big of a need as others to start with, we have a lot of pass catchers (Diggs, Davis, Crowder, McKenzie, Knox, Howard, Kumerow, Singletary) and they just added Cook to the mix who will not only be great for screens and dump offs, but the guy can also line up wide and go deep. I'm not saying they'll use him like that all the time, but maybe enough to keep defenses honest (people said we needed a speed WR to take the top off the defense...maybe between Cook and McKenzie, we have that covered). I mean, how much playing time would a rookie receiver have gotten next year anyhow with our depth chart? I'm really not concerned with Josh not having enough weapons. Look at last year's playoffs...and essentially all we did was swap Crowder for Beasley and added Howard and Cook. To me Sanders is a wash, because he was just taking reps away from Gabe. Just trying to see the rationale to the picks. Go Bills! Edited April 30, 2022 by folz 7 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It is kind of hilarious, there have been so many people on here begging for the Bills to get a LB, Bean Drafts one and suddenly it's "Not that one!" Hah You cracked me up there. That's exactly it. Good post. This is going to take some time for me to grow to like. On the face of it, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But they do need someone to replace Klein as the #3 and to back up Milano and Tremaine. I'm hoping it'll look good in retrospect. Certainly a decent chance of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, JohnNord said: I have not idea who this player is but I did not like this pick and hated all of the 6th round draft picks You have no idea who this player is, absolutely no knowledge of him, and you hated the pick? Curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Blazman11 said: Just so I get this straight. Kromer is supposedly going to make every lineman into Tony Boselli with no infusion of talent. But McDermott needs 78 premium defensive draft picks to ensure 13 seconds never happens again? Which was his own fault to begin with. So according to you, bringing in Saffold equals "no infusion of talent"? And you feel you now have enough information at the end of the 3rd to know they're not going to infuse any talent to the OL in the draft or FA? Yeah, those are both wrong. There's certainly room for frustration here - I'd rather have had Parham myself - but that take is just wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Richard Noggin Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: So according to you, bringing in Saffold equals "no infusion of talent"? And you feel you now have enough information at the end of the 3rd to know they're not going to infuse any talent to the OL in the draft or FA? Yeah, those are both wrong. There's certainly room for frustration here - I'd rather have had Parham myself - but that take is just wrong. Glad to see you weigh in at this point. The internet would be PAINFULLY BORING if everyone using it strived to be this objective and rational. So here we are, navigating obviously hyperbolic (emotional) takes with dull pleas for reasonable discourse. And while I agreed with you about Parham representing better value, I'm like immediately ready to abandon my own derivative assessments of these prospects in favor of an ego-less, balanced inquiry into their potential fits on the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blazman11 said: We are replacing Beasley with a castoff from the Jets. The Jets!!!!!!!!!! Despite the fact that this is its entirety is presented like the rant of a 15 year old, I'll highlight this because it's where things really went off the rails. Crowder is a tough, 28 year old target machine. Fantastic route runner. You either need to be trolling or opening your first pack of football cards to think that 33 year old, half-broken Cole Beasley is going to produce more than Jamison Crowder on the same field with Josh Allen in 2022. Edited April 30, 2022 by Nelius 4 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nelius said: Despite the fact that this is its entirety is presented like the rant of a 15 year old, I'll highlight this because it's where things really went off the rails. Crowder is a durable, 28 year old target machine. Fantastic route runner. You either need to be trolling or opening your first pack of football cards to think that 33 year old, half-broken Cole Beasley is going to produce more than Jamison Crowder on the same field with Josh Allen in 2022. It's not like Cole Beasley was this hot commodity when he came to the Bills either. His best years are because of Allen, not the other way around. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, Bruffalo said: It's not like Cole Beasley was this hot commodity when he came to the Bills either. His best years are because of Allen, not the other way around. Still available as well. Crowder on the other hand also had interest from the Browns and 49ers at least and easily would have had a home by now, and yet this dude is acting like the Bills gave him the league minimum 2 months after free agency started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Kiper is wrong a lot more than he is right. His fellow mock draft “expert” Mayock just might be the worst GM of the last 20 years too. Who cares what Kiper thinks Nah, Kiper is actually quite good. And man you like to shout down Bills fans. People remember Kiper's bad takes because his opinion matters to them...........but for the industry he is quite good and well connected. He was one of the few who were all-in on Josh Allen as a prospect............but you probably hated that opinion too. And what the unaffiliated Mayock has to do with him when there are hundreds of draft "experts" now I don't know. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Almost everyone in the country likes this buffalo roster. Fans of other teams are complaining they can’t build a team like this one. Giants fans are praying Schoen and Daboll can copy the Buffalo Bills blueprint of roster building. And people are really upset over draft picks. Beane could of probably forfeited this entire draft class and just signed UDFA later to plug holes and maybe a vet corner and we’d still sitting at the super bowl favorites table. Is that because of Josh Allen? Of course. But I would think Beane has earned some trust around here. He’s given this fan base everything they wanted. Maybe not when you want it but it arrives and sometimes it has a team friendly contract. Lighten up and have some fun with all this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Nothing like a little mid round reach to get fans juices going. 😂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: So according to you, bringing in Saffold equals "no infusion of talent"? And you feel you now have enough information at the end of the 3rd to know they're not going to infuse any talent to the OL in the draft or FA? Yeah, those are both wrong. There's certainly room for frustration here - I'd rather have had Parham myself - but that take is just wrong. Saffold is 5 years older than Daryl Williams, he can't play tackle like Williams and he was pretty banged up last year. Whether he is any kind of improvement or just a downgrade from what Daryl Williams provided is very debatable and the deal he got seemed mighty generous for a guy who TN was quick to move on from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16.5 career sacks, including 7.5 this past season. That’s a really high number for an off-the-ball LB. So he is very athletic, good in coverage, tackling machine, downhill defender who is an extremely effective blitzer that happens to be a team leader. Yeah, I’m thinking he will see some playing time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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