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Looming Stefon Diggs Contract situation - What do you do?


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What to do with Diggs  

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  1. 1. IF Diggs wants a Hill type contract what do you do?

    • Pay the man his money
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    • Trade him for a Hill type return
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Just now, NewEra said:

Play this season out.  Win a super bowl.  Trade him.  

Agree. 
Yes, Diggs is elite. Yes, we all love him..

But there are a lot of mouths to feed in the future.

This group of players will have to divide itself into what is more important to them… More money or championships and legacy. I get both sides of the debate. 

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The biggest difference between the situations in Oakland and Miami vs. the one in Buffalo is a top-flight, MVP-caliber quarterback that you need to pay big $$$ to.  Carr's cap hit next year is under $20M. Tua is on a rookie deal and I don't see any scenario in which he commands a $40M+ salary in the future.

 

I love Diggs but if he's looking for $30M per they can park his ass in Seattle or some other place with a ***** QB and let him collect his check.

 

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Honestly, I love Diggs, my dog is named Diggs even.  He’s my second favorite Bills player behind Allen.  
 

I would love to see him stay here, I really would.  
 

However, if he is going to want anything close to what Adam’s and Hill got, then I hate to say it, but we may need to trade him at some point.  
 

He is worthy of similar pay, but it’s also too much money when you have a big QB contract.  Carr has a cap hit of just $25m and Tua is on a rookie deal.  It’s how these teams can afford this kind of contract.  We don’t have that luxury starting next year anymore.  
 

That being said, I think Diggs legitimately loves being in Buffalo and loves playing with Allen, these coaches, this team.  And he also hates losing.  So it’s possible Diggs will take less money to extend here to stay where he loves being and help the team keep other valuable pieces to continue being a legit SB contender year after year.

 

But I’m a realist, and that’s a lot of money these guys are getting and wouldn’t fault him for wanting to get paid like that too on what will surely be his last big contract.  
 

So we will see if Beane and Diggs can work some magic or not.  But not only do I think we should trade him if he wants that kind of money, I’m pretty sure Beane will trade him if that was the case.  

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Diggs won’t get a Hill like return, I also don’t think a team would give him the amount of money the Dolphins gave Hill or the Raiders gave Adams. He also seems like a reasonable person who wants to win and loves playing with Josh, I’d be fine with like a 3/60 extension give or take a few dollars. Salary cap is going to explode the next few years so money won’t be an issue at that price. 

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as Diggs said yesterday...the hell going on ?

 

The have nots have blown the market wide open for qbs and wrs...under normal condiions Beane has done extensions late camp-early season, if this is an issue I would think it has to be resolved prior to the draft next month so we can re-tool...Hill's trade to Miami places focus on our CB quality, but a potential Diggs trade would also require a WR selection ahead of that or not ?

A silver lining to the trade would make more cap room for an extension easier for: edmunds, poyer, Knox, Davis....or a Landry, OBJ vet add

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depending on what he wants. IF hes looking for adams/hill numbers than they will let him walk or trade. No way they should pay a 30yr wr that kind of money. If they can lock him up for an extra 2 yrs and a decent rate than he might be worth it. 

 

My guess is he plays out this yr, and the Bills trade him this offseason.

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23 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

With seeing these escalating WR salaries and Diggs looking to be paid as a top WR. What do you do?

A reasonable raise with some added guarantee money would be fair but if Diggs believes he should be paid like Adams or Hill then I would trade him while his value is still high for a first rounder along with (2)  middle round picks.  Diggs is very good but he will being turning 29 in November,  I also point to him being shut down the last two seasons again KC in the playoffs.  You could say they gave him extra coverage and I say the Bills gave both Hill & Kelce extra coverage and they still produced

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Has Diggs publicly showed discontent, or is this a journalist made story to start s**t?

 

Back when he signed the contract, he got a great deal. Not his agent's, his nor the BILLS fault a couple of WRs have made bank this month. It's very normal he'd want that kind of money too. But it wouldn't that he starts pouting, skip out training camp and so on.

 

Win the SuperBowl first this season, THEN ask for more money or trade.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hill saw Davante Adams and wanted to be paid more (even though he's not as good). So Bills need to see how Diggs approaches it. Does he want to be the highest paid WR in the league at all costs? Does he want to work with the Bills on a cap friendly deal? If he starts making demands and the Bills could get a 1st and 2nd for him I'd do that in a heartbeat.

 

With Hill, he's a 1 trick pony. As soon as his speed starts to decline not only is he not worth the contract but he could be out of the league. He's .2 seconds slower in the 40 from being John Brown. 1 bad ACL and he's done. Diggs has a skill set that could allow him to play much longer in that he doesn't rely on his speed but on perfect footwork and route running. He's more valuable than Hill imo but not sure if other teams feel that way.

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You kick the can 1 more time.

 

If you kick it in 2022 and still no Super Bowl/Super Bowl Appearance…

 

Well…that will make 3 straight seasons with nothing, despite being the favorites, with the Allen/Diggs Connection.

 

At that point…if the $$$$ is too much…you move on…and look for new/younger/cheaper talent and a re-design of the offense.

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I don't think Diggs will try to bend the Bills over for some insane extension. I do think he's proven that he's worth more $$$ than Mike Williams and Christian Kirk though. I think he and the Bills find a respectable middle ground and he gets his contract extended for 3 years most likely. We're about to see the influx of that TV $$$ starting in 2023 as well. Some reports say the cap is going to skyrocket. 

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I don't think Diggs will necessarily pull a diva move with the Bills, but the dilemma for Beane is the longer they wait to give him a new deal, the more absurd the money is going to be and the domino effect from the Adams deal and trade to the Raiders is directly responsible for the chiefs opting not to pay Hill and trading him to the Dolphins.

 

Here's the big question to ponder though, is Diggs worth the same money as Hill and Adams? You can argue either way but personally not sure he is and never thought I would admit this but think his success is more the biproduct of JA17 than vice versa.

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If I'm Beane, I call Diggs and say..

 

"Hey, obviously we both see the WR contracts flying around this off-season.  We value you.  You know our situation, you know where we're at.  Are you cool to play out this season and then we sit down and address your contract next off-season?"

 

If he says yes.  We play out the season.  Sit down and see where everyone is at moving forward.

 

If there's hesitation, or it's a no (which we've seen zero indication of), then I think you need to start taking calls about his availability for another team.  

 

FWIW, I don't think we should expect a Adams/Hill trade package.  It would be a solid haul.. but I don't sense Diggs is viewed the same way those dudes are, nor do I believe he will get paid like they are (by us, or anyone else).   He's elite... but he's not Adams or Hill. 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Honestly, I love Diggs, my dog is named Diggs even.  He’s my second favorite Bills player behind Allen.  
 

I would love to see him stay here, I really would.  
 

However, if he is going to want anything close to what Adam’s and Hill got, then I hate to say it, but we may need to trade him at some point.  
 

He is worthy of similar pay, but it’s also too much money when you have a big QB contract.  Carr has a cap hit of just $25m and Tua is on a rookie deal.  It’s how these teams can afford this kind of contract.  We don’t have that luxury starting next year anymore.  
 

That being said, I think Diggs legitimately loves being in Buffalo and loves playing with Allen, these coaches, this team.  And he also hates losing.  So it’s possible Diggs will take less money to extend here to stay where he loves being and help the team keep other valuable pieces to continue being a legit SB contender year after year.

 

But I’m a realist, and that’s a lot of money these guys are getting and wouldn’t fault him for wanting to get paid like that too on what will surely be his last big contract.  
 

So we will see if Beane and Diggs can work some magic or not.  But not only do I think we should trade him if he wants that kind of money, I’m pretty sure Beane will trade him if that was the case.  

 

If you have to chose between paying the QB or paying the WR, you pay the QB. ALL DAY LONG! The QB can make a WR far easier than a WR can make a QB. Miami got this backwards. 

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I'm not extending him this off-season. Let next season play out. Maybe Davis shows he truly is a future star. Maybe we take a WR early in the draft that balls out.

 

Question is, will Diggs play this season without a revised contract/extension, given what he is making compared to other top guys? 

 

Maybe we just give him a pay jump for next year to keep him happy?

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2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

So basically do you wanna overpay a WR like the Raiders and Dolphins or know when to move on like the Packers and Chiefs. I think it’s more likely that the Packers and Chiefs are the ones that know what they’re doing.

It’s always easier to make these decisions when you have a top 5 QB.

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3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

So basically do you wanna overpay a WR like the Raiders and Dolphins or know when to move on like the Packers and Chiefs. I think it’s more likely that the Packers and Chiefs are the ones that know what they’re doing.

 

Packers were ready to pay that to Adams though.. Adams just wanted to leave at that point.  

 

Chiefs, while losing 1/3 of what made them all-time special, likely did make the smart move.  They had a price point for Hill.  Didn't exceed it.   Traded him for picks.  Hill is 29 and his game is predicated upon legendary speed/athleticism.   

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So right now he’s due about 13.5M for the next 2 years at cap hits of 17 and 18 M.

 

You COULD tear up his contract and give him a 4 year deal that would have a 10M base guaranteed for 3 years, a 40M signing bonus and a last year non guaranteed base of 30 M, now he has a 4 year 110M deal, with cap hits of 20M for 3 years, and a dead cap of 10M last year, which could be a post June 1 cut at 5M.  Now he’s paid elite, cap hit is about the same, Josh keeps his boy, and we are out at 32yrs old on a small WR.  He gets 70M guaranteed, just behind Hill.

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5 minutes ago, Conlan58 said:

Let's not forget how much Allen seems to value Diggs - I could see Allen restructuring as early as next spring for the sole purpose of being able to make room for Diggs' contract. 

I think this is the hope, and for all we know these types of discussions may already have or are currently taking place between Diggs, Allen and Beane.

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Beane Will let it play out this season.

 

If he has a great season, then the man gets paid by someone.  If he’s subpar, he may be had at a lessor price.  
 

I get teams with cap space are spending like drunken sailors looking to “win now”.  Couple that with the expected jump in the cap over the next few years, and huge contacts will be the norm.  
 

If we could backload a contract, we’d be able to keep him.  Not something you’d do for a 29 YO receiver.  Unless he takes a hometown discount, he won’t be on the team next year.  No way we can afford him.  One more year and maybe we’d see enough cap jump to sign him.  But would you want to pay top tier WR money for him then?  It probably will be driven up even more.

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