WotAGuy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I think the suspension will be dependent on how loud and long the outrage is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Not a real/factual story, but post worthy non-the-less 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Beerball said: I believe that they have the power to void a trade, not sure about a contract though. At the very least they should publicly send a strongly worded letter to the team and player. Roger's silence tells you all you need to know. What's the over under on how long the suspension will be? 5.5 games? The NFL has to approve every trade made and every contract teams sign players to. They can disapprove the trade or contract. They could also conditionally approve the contract with changes. Then the only recourse would be a lawsuit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Why would they draw the line at a team structuring a contract so that a player facing a potential suspension ends up with more cash in his pocket if he does get suspended? That's probably exactly what they should do it's like they went ahead and made their own verdict in the pending Civil Case of sexual assault. The optics of it all is disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Why would they draw the line at a team structuring a contract so that a player facing a potential suspension ends up with more cash in his pocket if he does get suspended? I can give you 22 good reasons. You're unsure whether he'll be suspended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Browns fans making donations to the Cleveland Rape Center https://dailysnark.com/2022/03/19/cleveland-rape-center-receives-thousands-in-donations-after-browns-trade-for-deshaun-watson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Welp, looks like we have some competition Watson with Chubb and Hunt is a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I wonder how this effects the Ravens/Lamar contract talks. Given what Watson is making, in-division, what is Lamar looking for… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerball Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I would love to know how long those in depth conversations went on. Tell us, Jimmy, why did you construct a contract in such a way as to cause as little financial pain to Watson as was possible? The kicker is that he then puts his wife's name on the statement. Like WTF, that gives it more credence? Someone, please search and tell us how many times Dee Haslam has been quoted by the browns organization. Edited March 20, 2022 by Beerball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Having said all that, we came down to f’it, we want to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was nice of them to have a detailed straightforward conversation with Deshaun. I wonder if there was anyone else they had a detailed straightforward conversation with? I can think of 22 people they might have wanted to talk to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 8:11 AM, HereComesTheReignAgain said: His best statistical year came with a 4 win season. * I also don’t like him for off the field reasons. Best case scenario he is a creep. Worst (and most likely) case is he is a sexual predator. Overheard: "That's Some ***** when the morally upright starting QB on the Browns roster is the married guy who met a random chick for a #### ### in a parking lot." 20 hours ago, Beerball said: Could not agree more. The fact that The Shield hasn't stepped in and made them rework the contract tells you everything you need to know. That contract should be ripped up and reworked to not give Watson such a huge advantage this year. It could tell us that the NFL will hold back from any disciplinary action until 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Welp, looks like we have some competition Watson with Chubb and Hunt is a problem. They might not even make the playoffs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Some real strong statements here without any cameras around be very curious how the first press conference goes. You can’t not have one. You are paying this guy 46 million each year and is now the face of the franchise. I bet Haslam doesn’t show Edited March 20, 2022 by Captain Hindsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, TBBills said: They might not even make the playoffs again. Literally just like every other NFL team in March. Honestly, if Allen had a serious injury like Mayfield did last year, do the Bills make the playoffs? (Not saying Mayfield is as good as Allen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:18 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Agreed. That said, I don’t understand how people can compare Watson to roethlisberger at least based on what we know. Ben’s situation was like Kobe’s basically. Watson’s situation has some additional red flags of being a serial predator type of situation. It should be really alarming for any team to invest in Watson. Just a huge risk. Right. I'll preface this by saying I believe accused people deserve their day in court, and we just have the lawsuits so far. There may be evidence on both sides, exculpatory and incriminating. BUT suspending that temporarily and taking the accounts in the suits plus the additional (not part of the lawsuit) Vrentas SI article at face value.... ...we have a young, handsome, wealthy famous athlete who could pretty much walk into a bar and choose any "cruising" or unattached woman to take home for a casual encounter ...he could hire any number of professional escort or sex worker of any appearance and attributes to provide any consensual services he wanted ...most pro athletes get massages from a small number of skilled therapists they work with regularly, and treat those therapists with respect to remain clients - because that assures the best chance they will get the therapeutic results they need to keep their "business" in peak condition, from someone who knows them. At very best, Watson was clearly seeking out large numbers of massage therapists, some of whom seem to have been less experienced or trained in working with athletes, and behaved in such a way that 22 of them joined a lawsuit (with all the disruption and negative social media attention that brings down on them). And it begs the question "why"? The simple, Occam's Razor explanation seems to me, that what Watson was looking for, wasn't something he could in fact obtain from a consensual encounter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: He’s just as good a player with less success in the win loss column IMO… The Browns were a good team in 2020 before Mayfield ***** the bed last season. Browns fans know the best. They have put p with BS for as long as we have, they are coming to be Bills fans according to this web site. Watson is no guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Because of Watsons actions … Not because he sucks at football. He’s a top 5 QB in the league. We shall see. I don't think he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: We shall see. I don't think he is. I don’t either. I’m not sure he is top 5 in the AFC Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Wilson, Jackson then Watson? Carr could be better too with Adams and McDaniels I’m not sure Cleveland wins the division with a healthy ravens and bengals and a Steelers team with a competent passing game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Because of Watsons actions … Not because he sucks at football. He’s a top 5 QB in the league. He is what he did until he atones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Huh? I’m talking about him on the football field. He’s better than Burrow, Herbert, Jackson, and Wilson at this point IMO….assuming he plays like he did prior to the allegations. Ah yes, he is a true honorable leader of men. Team mates will really follow him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 how funny / sad will it be when he is suspended by the NFL and all the guys that signed there are stuck with Jacoby Myers as the QB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Right. I'll preface this by saying I believe accused people deserve their day in court, and we just have the lawsuits so far. There may be evidence on both sides, exculpatory and incriminating. BUT suspending that temporarily and taking the accounts in the suits plus the additional (not part of the lawsuit) Vrentas SI article at face value.... ...we have a young, handsome, wealthy famous athlete who could pretty much walk into a bar and choose any "cruising" or unattached woman to take home for a casual encounter ...he could hire any number of professional escort or sex worker of any appearance and attributes to provide any consensual services he wanted ...most pro athletes get massages from a small number of skilled therapists they work with regularly, and treat those therapists with respect to remain clients - because that assures the best chance they will get the therapeutic results they need to keep their "business" in peak condition, from someone who knows them. At very best, Watson was clearly seeking out large numbers of massage therapists, some of whom seem to have been less experienced or trained in working with athletes, and behaved in such a way that 22 of them joined a lawsuit (with all the disruption and negative social media attention that brings down on them). And it begs the question "why"? The simple, Occam's Razor explanation seems to me, that what Watson was looking for, wasn't something he could in fact obtain from a consensual encounter. IMO this shows how desperate the Browns were. That team is stacked on D and O and if Watson plays to his potential they will win the North. The question is will Watson be punished by the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 He’s still innocent until proven guilty in the USA. Maybe I’m a Buffalonian who has stereotypes about how they do things in Texas, but the Houston ownership and Tony Buzbee seemed out to destroy Watson’s career in a very old fashioned way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: He’s still innocent until proven guilty in the USA. Maybe I’m a Buffalonian who has stereotypes about how they do things in Texas, but the Houston ownership and Tony Buzbee seemed out to destroy Watson’s career in a very old fashioned way. not sure if you meant that wording but it made me think of this NSFW language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 hours ago, gordong said: how funny / sad will it be when he is suspended by the NFL and all the guys that signed there are stuck with Jacoby Myers as the QB... The WR on the Patriots? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 hours ago, TBBills said: They might not even make the playoffs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 well, looks like got their "adult" at QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I hope they suspend him next season when his base salary is $46M, versus this season when it's only $1M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Browns role as lovable loser is long gone. Their all time face of the franchise, Jim Brown, is a rapist. They erected a statue of him outside the stadium. Their current face of the franchise is a sexual predator. They just made him one of the highest paid players in league history and structured his deal in a way that allows him to avoid significant losses if he is suspended. Have the Browns taken the dirtbag title from the Chiefs?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 This is the stupidest contract in the history of sports. I don't care how good Watson is, how do you guarantee all that money (even WITHOUT all the allegations against him) for a guy who hasn't played in a year? Factor in the legal mess, and it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Glad it wasn't us! I feel so sorry for Cleveland fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, skibum said: This is the stupidest contract in the history of sports. I don't care how good Watson is, how do you guarantee all that money (even WITHOUT all the allegations against him) for a guy who hasn't played in a year? Factor in the legal mess, and it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Glad it wasn't us! I feel so sorry for Cleveland fans. Desperation makes you do stupid things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, skibum said: This is the stupidest contract in the history of sports. I don't care how good Watson is, how do you guarantee all that money (even WITHOUT all the allegations against him) for a guy who hasn't played in a year? Factor in the legal mess, and it's just a disaster waiting to happen. Glad it wasn't us! I feel so sorry for Cleveland fans. This. Not only are they guaranteeing him Mahomes/Allen type of money (and still think he's not close to being in the same class), they are basically saying they don't give a ***** about the allegations or any pending suspensions. Also remember this is a guy that signed a guaranteed contract already with another team and decided he didn't want to play for them anymore (likely because of said allegations and because that team was entering a full blown rebuilding mode). Funny too how Watson magically changed his mind about going to Cleveland once the contract became 'guaranteed' because obviously other teams were smart of enough to want contingencies. Either way karma has a way of sorting itself out and don't be surprised if he tears an ACL especially after not playing football in so long by the time he sees the field again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 This deal will be good for us. Now the Ravens will be forced to pay 50+M for Lamar....It will hamstring their cap situation. Similarly for Burrows and may be even Tannehill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: I hope they suspend him next season when his base salary is $46M, versus this season when it's only $1M. This is truly messed up. The NFL shouldn't allow this. If you can't punish anyone anymore what's the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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