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Khalil Mack traded to Chargers for 2nd and 6th round picks


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25 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Every GM has misses, bottom line he turned Buffalo into a top 3-5 team for the foreseeable future.  That's after inheriting a ton of bad salary cap mismanagement, no QB, and a team that hadn't made the playoffs in ages.

 

I like Mack too, but not at the expense of a 2nd rounder and the cap hit he carries...at his age and foot issue, it's a risk.  Chandler Jones, much more desirable, other options exist in the draft as well.

Yeah…..that’s why I said “he’s a very good GM”

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1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said:

If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO.  Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack.  He is the missing piece.  Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. 

Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player.  

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Just now, NewEra said:

Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player.  

 

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player.  

Because they are the Bears? 🤷 

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I won't repeat what many have said - the 2 and 6 aren't the issue - it's the contract.  But to add to that, do you really think Chicago got a call from San Diego and took the first deal offered?  Do you really think Beene did not know about this, or that Chicago did not make it known to certain potential suitors that this was going down?  Maybe Buffalo did snoop around the deal.  Maybe Khalil had some input into where he was going.  Maybe talk of a restructure was not on the table.  Beene is a savvy customer as he has proven time and again (even many of the so-called bad calls folks above have mentioned were viewed as solid moves at the time).  I would think that he had a shot at this and for one reason or another decided it was not the right deal.  I'm not in any position to question him on that. 

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11 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said:

DAMN!!! I would have made that trade any day of the week and all day Sunday.  For a 2nd and a 5th we'd have our hometown boy back.  Should have made this happen.

The Bills could not have done this trade for a 2nd and 5th. 

12 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

 

Because they are the Bears? 🤷 

The Bears aren’t the Bears anymore they’re the Chiefs/Colts at GM/HC. They are tearing it down and completely rebuilding,  and wanted to offload the entire contract because they aren’t a playoff team and mack isn’t getting them there this year or next. 

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36 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said:

DAMN!!! I would have made that trade any day of the week and all day Sunday.  For a 2nd and a 5th we'd have our hometown boy back.  Should have made this happen.

I think everyone would love to have Mack on this team. But he’s 31, and has been declining stat wise, and health wise. 
 

23 mil annually is a lot, and I think the biggest reason he’s a charger right now. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

They gave up less because they absorb the contract. If the contract wasn’t structured that way it would have been more. The Bills could not have absorbed the contract and could sign another DE like Chandler Jones for a contract they can structure  to fit their cap in FA  and give up nothing. It’s a deal the chargers could do but most could not. 

Yep. Contract, injuries, age were certainly less than ideal. Whether it’s Chandler Jones (not ideal on age either) or someone else, I’m really hoping they shore up edge rusher in FA with a legit threat. It won’t be cheap, but I’m fine with that even if it’s the only move we make in FA. Wouldn't mind a mid-level corner either in FA, but that might be too much. Offense can be addressed in the draft as far as I’m concerned. 

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42 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO.  Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack.  He is the missing piece.  Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. 

Trading Edmunds seems to be the solution to everything.  Why waste it on Mack?  Trade him to solve hunger, global warming and create world peace and get a 4th rounder.

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4 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Yep. Contract, injuries, age were certainly less than ideal. Whether it’s Chandler Jones (not ideal on age either) or someone else, I’m really hoping they shore up edge rusher in FA with a legit threat. It won’t be cheap, but I’m fine with that even if it’s the only move we make in FA. Wouldn't mind a mid-level corner either in FA, but that might be too much. Offense can be addressed in the draft as far as I’m concerned. 

They absolutely need to address pass rush. This was not the way. Even if they wanted to. But it is the way for a desperate GM for a non playoff team with a Qb on a rookie deal who has to make the playoffs in a brutal division and build a fan base, in the same city  where the other team just won the SB.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

They absolutely need to address pass rush. This was not the way. Even if they wanted to. But it is the way for a desperate GM for a non playoff team with a Qb on a rookie deal who has to make the playoffs in a brutal division and build a fan base, in the same city  where the other team just won the SB.

 

 

This exactly.  

 

I think the return for the Bears should probably tell you something about what Mack has left in the tank and plus that contract.

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49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Bills could not have done this trade for a 2nd and 5th. 

The Bears aren’t the Bears anymore they’re the Chiefs/Colts at GM/HC. They are tearing it down and completely rebuilding,  and wanted to offload the entire contract because they aren’t a playoff team and mack isn’t getting them there this year or next. 


Nah, I live in Chicago and even Bears fans were like who tf is this guy they hired? No one is optimistic about them, and they’re all pissed Rodgers signed for 4 more years. I love it. Bears fans are some of the most annoying I have encountered.

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3 minutes ago, Motor26 said:


Nah, I live in Chicago and even Bears fans were like who tf is this guy they hired? No one is optimistic about them, and they’re all pissed Rodgers signed for 4 more years. I love it. Bears fans are some of the most annoying I have encountered.

I didn’t say they should be optimistic. I said it was a new regime. Could be good or bad but it’s not the same.

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2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The fact that my Beane is sleeping thread is locked for not breaking any forum rules is all you need to know. Sad. 

 

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Strangely enough, there's a strong contingent of folks here complaining that the mods are letting too much nonsense slide right now 🤷‍♂️

 

PS don't turn other topical, active discussion threads into your personal whinge-fest

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To everyone complaining that we didn't do this deal:

 

It cost a 2nd round pick that we need desperately to address wr,cb, and OG 

 

His cap hit is $18 Million and we have less than a million 

 

Mario Addison had more sacks than him last season and he had a steep drop in overall performance

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3 hours ago, Process said:

Von Miller is two years older and went for more as a half season rental. 

 

I get that it's also a salary dump for the Bears but damn, how did they only get a 2nd. 

Because nobody offered more and nobody else wanted to take on that much salary for a guy that has started to fade into mediocrity.  Teams know more details about injuries than are made public to fans.  Maybe Mack's most recent injury is likely to impact his future performance.  None of us will know for sure until we see him play a few games.

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Mack carries a cap hit of $17m plus this year, and $23m the next two years.  For those people claiming Beane is asleep, what is your proposal to fit Mack on the Bills given those cap numbers? He played 7 games last year.  He had 16 games the year before and produced 9 sacks.  I would also be interested to know what about these incremental few sacks added to what is already a top defense screams enough difference to make the necessary cuts to somehow fit Mack under the Bills cap. 

 

The Chargers are a non playoff team that currently has room.  Perhaps they see this as a move that will propel them to the next level.  I would be surprised if that were the case.  The next two years of his deal are ridiculously over priced as well.  

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3 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Mack carries a cap hit of $17m plus this year, and $23m the next two years.  For those people claiming Beane is asleep, what is your proposal to fit Mack on the Bills given those cap numbers? He played 7 games last year.  He had 16 games the year before and produced 9 sacks.  I would also be interested to know what about these incremental few sacks added to what is already a top defense screams enough difference to make the necessary cuts to somehow fit Mack under the Bills cap. 

 

The Chargers are a non playoff team that currently has room.  Perhaps they see this as a move that will propel them to the next level.  I would be surprised if that were the case.  The next two years of his deal are ridiculously over priced as well.  

 

Cut (preferably trade) Beasley and ask Mack to re-negotiate his contract.

 

This cap stuff is not difficult when you're a good team and players are willing to re-negotiate contracts!

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