Enemarty

# 22

For me, this was a no-brainer. Beane wanted to give Josh a weapon. Certainly, that was the consensus on this board - please Beane, no defense. As others have noted, three ways to do that - WR, TE or BRobinson. The last was long gone, the four WRs tumbled fast and in any event were arguably somewhat interchangeable so if any lasted he might have grabbed one. But when they were all gone, he had one mark left and jumped on him, knowing Dallas was going in that direction. A nice combination of patience and decisiveness - get the weapon and control the cost. Who can say how it will pan out, but that was not your question.

This is exactly why Beane wins the prize running away. Beane wanted Allen and made multiple moves to go get his man, or at least get someone if Allen is off the board. TD settled for a draft day scenario that was really out of his control. And Whaley/Nix had a discussion over beers one night that getting a franchise quarterback would be a good idea. I do give TD props for the Bledsoe trade - but not going to get Ben - and then moving to get JPL. It all felt a bit lazy at the time and we payed the price. Speaking of price... I was fine with the Willis McGahee pick. TD used the pick he got from Atlanta for Peerless (now that was highway robbery) on what we all considered a transformative player once he recovered. Replace one solid offensive contributor with the Barkley of his day.

Just went through four pages and it is the first response that I agree with the most. I've watched Montana from Notre Dame through KC. He has always been a personal favorite of mine as he made the most of a less than athletic frame through a superior intellect. Of course, he benefitted from a transformative offensive genius who, naturally, found his ideal quarterback in Montana. But Brady took Montana to the next level. Perhaps, had they played in the same era, same rules, same teammates and opponents, their play would be indistinguishable. But for my money, Brady has a crazy intensity that sets him apart from everyone, except perhaps Peyton. In a weird way, I think Peyton's athleticism actually worked against him at times, as he would overly rely on it to the detriment of his arguably equally superior mental game. As a result, I think Peyton comes second to TB12 as the greatest of all time. Bill Walsh would have been ecstatic with either Tom or Peyton.

Could not agree more. So much of the concern appears to come from the perspective that we are in a competition to get an A grade in the Sunday morning draft report. Beane is concerned about making the team stronger. In round 3, he could find an OL for the future, but he has been tinkering with OL in FA, so maybe that can wait. Or he could go speedy WR, or he could look to strengthen the LBs, and the list goes on. All needs, it's just how to go about it. He opts to find a backup (at least for now) for Matt with what looks like possibly a Matt clone. Outside of 13 secs and other season-ending moments, for me, when Matt went down two years ago, my stomach dropped. And remember, for a game or two, it did not look like AJ was going to be the answer. When he grabs Bernard, he addresses that need and starts a run at the position. Hmm. Then he sneaks up and grabs Shakir, who many grade much higher. Over the last few years, every time a drumbeat starts that Beane is over his skis, he suddenly comes back with another wizard move.

I won't repeat what many have said - the 2 and 6 aren't the issue - it's the contract. But to add to that, do you really think Chicago got a call from San Diego and took the first deal offered? Do you really think Beene did not know about this, or that Chicago did not make it known to certain potential suitors that this was going down? Maybe Buffalo did snoop around the deal. Maybe Khalil had some input into where he was going. Maybe talk of a restructure was not on the table. Beene is a savvy customer as he has proven time and again (even many of the so-called bad calls folks above have mentioned were viewed as solid moves at the time). I would think that he had a shot at this and for one reason or another decided it was not the right deal. I'm not in any position to question him on that.

It's been a long time, but one thing stands out - Ralph! After staying more in the background during the 90s, he decided to reassert himself after the forward pass (and of course, before that game). It's really too bad, as I would like to have seen what Wade could have done with that team, especially if we would have still picked up Bledsoe. The defense would have been great and with a quarterback that could score, i.e., not be streaky Johnson or half-season Flutie, we might have had something.

Yes, I was there. Lovely view of the incident from the upper deck.

this. Smith's head is up. Clean tackle. Over reaction by ref.

This was my go-to back in the day ... and when I say back in the day, I mean the Kelly years.

Agree. The dread years brought lots of interesting UDFAs to town, but now the opportunities are elsewhere. So use those late picks to get that guy you otherwise might have seen as an UDFA.

LDD's and your observation are what struck me about the highlights. This was a Mahomes stopping pick, as Patrick can usually make the first wave attacker, i.e., edge rusher miss, but the subsequent misses are more a combination of Mahomes and the inability of the attacker to latch on to him. I see GR almost built for the clean up role. Beane is canny.

Wither an undead hostile mob boss from Minecraft and, based upon the damage a Wither can do, I would take one over Mack or Hunter. Wither would just wreck the opposing O-line. Once again - Beane is a genius.

I was in the wrong end zone, well ... except for one catch.

agree. classic college stunt. well done.

I started watching English football in the mid-90s and was hooked. But I didn't want to be like every other American and pick between Man U or Liverpool, so I looked around for a team that most reminded me of the Bills. A town struggling for an identity in the post-industrial age, with a fanatical fanbase and a team that possibly did not deserve the devotion of the fans. The two obvious choices were Newcastle and Sunderland, but Sunderland got the nod as they have a certain chip on their shoulder. I've been over there and watched games and can say, their fans would be right at home in Buffalo.

My thoughts exactly. Could not stand the man on game day, but at any point during those 25 years had Don announced he was going to coach Buffalo, I would have been out at the airport with flowers and candy in an instant.

I started with Jack, but don't really remember him. Dennis I recall - handing the ball off. Joe I loved - he actually knew what a wide receiver was. Then there was Jim. No one has replaced Jim, although Doug had his moments. Then a bunch of nothing. Drew flattered to deceive. JP and Trentative, please. I liked Ryan only because he was so Buffalo, the guy we wanted to love if only he had an arm. EJ is a nice person by the way. I had hope for Tyrod, until the Houston game. I wanted Sam. I would have taken Lamar late. I did not want Josh Allen. I love Josh Allen. Have faith my brothers and sisters. Sure he is inaccurate. Sure he needs to improve his reads. But if you have learned nothing over these last two years, know this - he has Kelly in his veins.

Well done sir. What is funny - substitute some of the military jargon from the Navy's announcement and replace it with football terms and it pretty much describes the service he provides all of us on TBD. To wit - "He leads [TBD (Two Bills Drive)], a program which allows [Bills supporters] to quickly deliver compelling video and photographic evidence of unsafe or unprofessional action by [the New England Patriots] for potential release to [Bills fans] to combat [Belichick/Brady] propaganda."

October 7, 1973 Bills v. Eagles I have lots of memories of that game, but no need to list them when you can watch it. Great thread. Without it, I never would have googled the game and come across this old NFL Films Game of the Week.

1. Born and raised in Buffalo; father was a crazed Bills fan. 2. The fellowship. I left Buffalo years ago and my childhood friends are spread all over the country, but the Bills keep us together. It used to be phone calls, now it's texting. This is probably true of every team, but what I find interesting about Bills fans is the common bond that immediately forms between complete strangers when you realize you are both Bills fans. There is something about having lived through 0 for the 70's, Four consecutive losses, and Ralph Wilson that can allow folks without much else in common to become instant friends. 3. Too many. Of course, being at Rich for 51-3 was special. I was also at the Comeback, and the 22 points, and the first clincher over the Jets with the goal posts carried to Ralph's box, and the home opener earlier that year against Minny when we walked out on a spectacular day thinking this year is the year the Bills will arrive on the national scene, turned the car on and the 10,000 Maniacs came screaming out of the radio confirming for us that destiny was calling. Even my first live game, against Philly in 73 when Tom Dempsey, holder of the 63 yard field goal record lined up with seconds left to take the 20-something yard field goal for the Eagles - - and shanked it, giving Buffalo the win. And of course, sharing so many of these and other Bills moments with my dad.

Or, we could offer him the opportunity to sign at halftime of the Titans game and start in the second half! How could he turn that down - would be all the talk on the sports channels and twitter.... ... yes, I know, there are rules about this, but the juxtaposition with the Davis situation would be hilarious.

This for me. Look, we all loved Fitz's aggressive nature, but were frustrated that he couldn't make all the throws. Trent and Tyrod didn't even bother throwing downfield, making the offense difficult to watch. We now have someone who has the self-confidence and ability to put pressure on the secondary. Sure he's going to make some bad throws, they all do. But at least it's exciting again. Once he gets a few lineman in front of him, this could really be fun again.

This. And the other one too. But the Raider play was the start of a 24 hour party. Singing in the snow at 3am. Awesome memories.

Our group never left a game early. That particular game was frustrating, so when they lined up to take the kick, one guy said, "I'm out of here" and walked out and the rest of us followed. As we walked past the next entrance way, we heard the crowd and ran back in to see CB running down the field to score. My friends ran back to our seats, but I just stood in the entrance way. Right after Smith scores, the usher comes up to me and says "you can't stand there, get to your seat." I said, "dude, I just watched us score twice while standing here - I'm not moving." The usher looks at me a moment and then says, " yeah, you should keep standing here." I finally returned to my seat after the third score. Absolutely class.