TheWeatherMan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO. Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack. He is the missing piece. Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Every GM has misses, bottom line he turned Buffalo into a top 3-5 team for the foreseeable future. That's after inheriting a ton of bad salary cap mismanagement, no QB, and a team that hadn't made the playoffs in ages. I like Mack too, but not at the expense of a 2nd rounder and the cap hit he carries...at his age and foot issue, it's a risk. Chandler Jones, much more desirable, other options exist in the draft as well. Yeah…..that’s why I said “he’s a very good GM” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said: If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO. Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack. He is the missing piece. Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. No. Lol. That doesn't get us Mack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said: If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO. Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack. He is the missing piece. Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player. 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Yeah….please explain why the Bears would want Edmunds when they’re about to extend roquon, a superior player. Because they are the Bears? 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: No. Lol. That doesn't get us Mack. And the Bears already have Roquan Smith at MLB. And who is way better than Edmunds. Fun fact he was selected the pick after Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 DAMN!!! I would have made that trade any day of the week and all day Sunday. For a 2nd and a 5th we'd have our hometown boy back. Should have made this happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Motor26 said: And the Bears already have Roquan Smith at MLB. And who is way better than Edmunds. Fun fact he was selected the pick after Allen. They’re probably moving him to WILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I won't repeat what many have said - the 2 and 6 aren't the issue - it's the contract. But to add to that, do you really think Chicago got a call from San Diego and took the first deal offered? Do you really think Beene did not know about this, or that Chicago did not make it known to certain potential suitors that this was going down? Maybe Buffalo did snoop around the deal. Maybe Khalil had some input into where he was going. Maybe talk of a restructure was not on the table. Beene is a savvy customer as he has proven time and again (even many of the so-called bad calls folks above have mentioned were viewed as solid moves at the time). I would think that he had a shot at this and for one reason or another decided it was not the right deal. I'm not in any position to question him on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: DAMN!!! I would have made that trade any day of the week and all day Sunday. For a 2nd and a 5th we'd have our hometown boy back. Should have made this happen. The Bills could not have done this trade for a 2nd and 5th. 12 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Because they are the Bears? 🤷 The Bears aren’t the Bears anymore they’re the Chiefs/Colts at GM/HC. They are tearing it down and completely rebuilding, and wanted to offload the entire contract because they aren’t a playoff team and mack isn’t getting them there this year or next. Edited March 11, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Mack would've looked so nice in a Bills uni 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: year 3 for Herbert. time for him to take his spot on top of the mountain. i like diggs, but I would’ve liked even more push in that window here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Process said: For a 2nd round pick. That's it? So far the AFC has added Wilson and Mack, and the NFC has added Wentz. and retained Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, ganesh said: and retained Rodgers The last great qb in the nfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That's not true at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Bills Juggernaut said: Damn. Beane wake up!!!! I hope this isn’t a (another) sign of the type of season to come…. 13 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Mack would've looked so nice in a Bills uni Real nice… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Are you ***** kidding me?? And 2nd and a 6th??? Jesus Christ, Beane!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 And to think I figured I'd have until the start of free agency before I'd want to avoid the crazy on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: DAMN!!! I would have made that trade any day of the week and all day Sunday. For a 2nd and a 5th we'd have our hometown boy back. Should have made this happen. I think everyone would love to have Mack on this team. But he’s 31, and has been declining stat wise, and health wise. 23 mil annually is a lot, and I think the biggest reason he’s a charger right now. Edited March 11, 2022 by Bobby Hooks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They gave up less because they absorb the contract. If the contract wasn’t structured that way it would have been more. The Bills could not have absorbed the contract and could sign another DE like Chandler Jones for a contract they can structure to fit their cap in FA and give up nothing. It’s a deal the chargers could do but most could not. Yep. Contract, injuries, age were certainly less than ideal. Whether it’s Chandler Jones (not ideal on age either) or someone else, I’m really hoping they shore up edge rusher in FA with a legit threat. It won’t be cheap, but I’m fine with that even if it’s the only move we make in FA. Wouldn't mind a mid-level corner either in FA, but that might be too much. Offense can be addressed in the draft as far as I’m concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: If Mack was willing to restructure this should have been a no brainer for our FO. Trade Edmunds and a 4th for Mack. He is the missing piece. Still time Beaner to get this done, swoop in and pirate him. Trading Edmunds seems to be the solution to everything. Why waste it on Mack? Trade him to solve hunger, global warming and create world peace and get a 4th rounder. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Trading Edmunds seems to be the solution to everything. Why waste it on Mack? Trade him to solve hunger, global warming and create world peace and get a 4th rounder. That's gonna cost an additional 7th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Yep. Contract, injuries, age were certainly less than ideal. Whether it’s Chandler Jones (not ideal on age either) or someone else, I’m really hoping they shore up edge rusher in FA with a legit threat. It won’t be cheap, but I’m fine with that even if it’s the only move we make in FA. Wouldn't mind a mid-level corner either in FA, but that might be too much. Offense can be addressed in the draft as far as I’m concerned. They absolutely need to address pass rush. This was not the way. Even if they wanted to. But it is the way for a desperate GM for a non playoff team with a Qb on a rookie deal who has to make the playoffs in a brutal division and build a fan base, in the same city where the other team just won the SB. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: They absolutely need to address pass rush. This was not the way. Even if they wanted to. But it is the way for a desperate GM for a non playoff team with a Qb on a rookie deal who has to make the playoffs in a brutal division and build a fan base, in the same city where the other team just won the SB. This exactly. I think the return for the Bears should probably tell you something about what Mack has left in the tank and plus that contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills could not have done this trade for a 2nd and 5th. The Bears aren’t the Bears anymore they’re the Chiefs/Colts at GM/HC. They are tearing it down and completely rebuilding, and wanted to offload the entire contract because they aren’t a playoff team and mack isn’t getting them there this year or next. Nah, I live in Chicago and even Bears fans were like who tf is this guy they hired? No one is optimistic about them, and they’re all pissed Rodgers signed for 4 more years. I love it. Bears fans are some of the most annoying I have encountered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Nah, I live in Chicago and even Bears fans were like who tf is this guy they hired? No one is optimistic about them, and they’re all pissed Rodgers signed for 4 more years. I love it. Bears fans are some of the most annoying I have encountered. I didn’t say they should be optimistic. I said it was a new regime. Could be good or bad but it’s not the same. Edited March 11, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: The fact that my Beane is sleeping thread is locked for not breaking any forum rules is all you need to know. Sad. Perhaps you need to review: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/guidelines/ Quote TBD always reserves the right to remove posts that don't enhance the discussion on the board. Contact the TBD Moderators if you feel a poster has violated these guidelines. Strangely enough, there's a strong contingent of folks here complaining that the mods are letting too much nonsense slide right now 🤷♂️ PS don't turn other topical, active discussion threads into your personal whinge-fest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: The fact that my Beane is sleeping thread is locked for not breaking any forum rules is all you need to know. Sad. Damning, if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 His base salary is $12 million……how do you fit that under the cap when you’re already over the cap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, FluffHead said: Meanwhile Beane taking a buddy nix nap So, to translate, "Wah, wah, wah." Is that what you're saying? OK, got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Wouldn't be surprised if this triggered was pulled after the Wilson trade was done to go after all the qb's in their division. They will try to bolster their secondary also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said: Mack hasn’t had double digit sacks since 2018 and only played in seven games last season. I think Mack’s best years are behind him. I haven't heard his name in two years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, FluffHead said: Meanwhile Beane taking a buddy nix nap Damn it, why didn't we do this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) To everyone complaining that we didn't do this deal: It cost a 2nd round pick that we need desperately to address wr,cb, and OG His cap hit is $18 Million and we have less than a million Mario Addison had more sacks than him last season and he had a steep drop in overall performance Edited March 11, 2022 by Allen2Diggs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, gordong said: Damn it, why didn't we do this.. I don’t expect much from Beane anymore. I just hope he hits on his draft picks moving forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Process said: Von Miller is two years older and went for more as a half season rental. I get that it's also a salary dump for the Bears but damn, how did they only get a 2nd. Because nobody offered more and nobody else wanted to take on that much salary for a guy that has started to fade into mediocrity. Teams know more details about injuries than are made public to fans. Maybe Mack's most recent injury is likely to impact his future performance. None of us will know for sure until we see him play a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: How can they afford to pay gunners on special teams? Oh that gave me a laugh! Well done!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Mack carries a cap hit of $17m plus this year, and $23m the next two years. For those people claiming Beane is asleep, what is your proposal to fit Mack on the Bills given those cap numbers? He played 7 games last year. He had 16 games the year before and produced 9 sacks. I would also be interested to know what about these incremental few sacks added to what is already a top defense screams enough difference to make the necessary cuts to somehow fit Mack under the Bills cap. The Chargers are a non playoff team that currently has room. Perhaps they see this as a move that will propel them to the next level. I would be surprised if that were the case. The next two years of his deal are ridiculously over priced as well. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, FLFan said: Mack carries a cap hit of $17m plus this year, and $23m the next two years. For those people claiming Beane is asleep, what is your proposal to fit Mack on the Bills given those cap numbers? He played 7 games last year. He had 16 games the year before and produced 9 sacks. I would also be interested to know what about these incremental few sacks added to what is already a top defense screams enough difference to make the necessary cuts to somehow fit Mack under the Bills cap. The Chargers are a non playoff team that currently has room. Perhaps they see this as a move that will propel them to the next level. I would be surprised if that were the case. The next two years of his deal are ridiculously over priced as well. Cut (preferably trade) Beasley and ask Mack to re-negotiate his contract. This cap stuff is not difficult when you're a good team and players are willing to re-negotiate contracts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Toddlers lack patience and require immediate gratification, or they become whiny and throw tantrums. Also, many posters in this thread because a trade happened that didn't involve the Bills. Self-reflection, folks. Self-regulation, for that matter. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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