Big Turk Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Wow...Tua looks like the anti Josh Allen...dude would rather play golf than work on his craft during days off... Flores told management "We'll never wins a Championship with this guy." and apparently used to get on him constantly about it including in front of others... https://dolphinstalk.com/2022/01/brian-flores-didnt-like-that-tua-played-golf-on-his-off-days-and-had-a-questionable-work-ethic/ 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 This doesn’t surprise me at all. I can understand Tua’s frustration with the Watson rumors, but that should’ve made him work harder, not go golfing. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I play golf sometimes on my days off. Ssssh. 3 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I play golf sometimes on my days off. Ssssh. Are you expected to be one of the top 32 people in the world doing your job? I know I'm not. I good with being #33 😉 Edited January 15, 2022 by loyal2dagame 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Are you expected to be one of the top 32 people in the world doing your job? In the world? No. Maybe in Britain though 😉 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 This is some BS. Players are probably better off having a hobby that they do on their days off and Tua, for as unskilled a QB as I think he is, did materially improve over the course of this season. For some reason golf is always used as a metaphor for negligent laziness but I guarantee you every NFL player has something recreational they do for 3 or 4 hours on off days. Video games seem to be chief among them and that's fine too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I guarantee you every NFL player has something recreational they do for 3 or 4 hours on off days Yeah, even the GOAT has ways to unwind 1 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Wow...Tua looks like the anti Josh Allen...dude would rather play golf than work on his craft during days off... Flores told management "We'll never wins a Championship with this guy." and apparently used to get on him constantly about it including in front of others... https://dolphinstalk.com/2022/01/brian-flores-didnt-like-that-tua-played-golf-on-his-off-days-and-had-a-questionable-work-ethic/ 🤣BWAHAHAHAHAHA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I’m so pumped they fired Flores 7 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m so pumped they fired Flores As a bills fan, it was definitely the right move 3 5 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I play golf sometimes on my days off. Ssssh. Slacker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I’m so pumped they fired Flores Well, we've owned Flores, and he has owned the Patriots .... so I'm not so convinved this was a good thing for us??? .... But if it means the fish are committed to Tua (and no Watson), okay, I'll take that. Also something else to consider, the Texans' new GM is a former Patriot front office guy: If the M Jones stinks again this evening, I have no doubt BB will be on the phone as soon as he can trying to swing a deal for Watson to come to NE. ... Twice a year Bill has seen how great athleticism in a QB can be so hard to defend, Watson is one of the few available (if he is) QB's who can match Allen in this way. ... Yeah, I can see this scenario happing. Just some things to throw into the "be careful what you wish for" conundrum of life. Edited January 15, 2022 by CSBill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: As a bills fan, it was definitely the right move why...Flores is 0 and something against Josh Allen !!!! Go Bills ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I play golf sometimes on my days off. Ssssh. Do you suck at your job? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you suck at your job? I do the bare minimum to get by..... I just carry it off better than Tua 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Well, we've owned Flores, and he has owned the Patriots .... so I'm not so convinved this was a good thing for us??? .... But if it means the fish are committed to Tua (and no Watson), okay, I'll take that. Also something else to consider, the Texans' new GM is a former Patriot front office guy: If the M Jones stinks again this evening, I have no doubt BB will be on the phone as soon as he can trying to swing a deal for Watson to come to NE. ... Bill has seen twive a year how great athleticism in a QB can be so hard to defend, Watson is one of the few available (if he is) QB's who can match Allen in this way. ... Yeah, I can see this scenario happing. Just some things to throw into the "be careful what you wish for" conundrum of life. First, it would take a boat load of picks to pry Watson away from Houston. Then you would need to activate him and see what his suspension actually is. Someone can correct me, but i think the NFL has been in a holding pattern waiting to see what the legal outcome is with the allegations. This is all predicated on the fact that the GM in Houston worked with Belichick. Not sure how far that goes to getting a deal done. As for Tua, this has the feel of the Drew Brees in San Diego, except not sure Miami will ever be bad enough with Tua to draft their “Philip Rivers”. Edited January 15, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Flores was mad that Tua played better courses, and had better tee times. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 A day off is a day off, otherwise it would be called work. 3 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you suck at your job? Pretty sure he works at a vacuum company...so yes is the answer 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, DJB said: Pretty sure he works at a vacuum company...so yes is the answer Dirt Devil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: Yeah, even the GOAT has ways to unwind Looks like he went to the Elaine Benes school of dance moves!!! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 So Miami didn't know he was lazy when they drafted him, drafted him, treated him like garbage, publicly tried to replace him, failed, then got mad when he stayed lazy and made no attempt to get better. That's some top notch HR work and Management right there. You can see why the Dolphins are a marquee franchise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TAinLA said: Looks like he went to the Elaine Benes school of dance moves!!! Sweet Fancy Moses! 😳 * As for the thread title, do we fall back on the adage 'a bad workman always blames his tools'? Edited January 15, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The real tell will be how quickly and how fervently Tua's teammates defend him. If they don't that is a bad sign that Tua does not have the lockerroom the way you want a franchise guy to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Wow...Tua looks like the anti Josh Allen...dude would rather play golf than work on his craft during days off... Flores told management "We'll never wins a Championship with this guy." and apparently used to get on him constantly about it including in front of others... https://dolphinstalk.com/2022/01/brian-flores-didnt-like-that-tua-played-golf-on-his-off-days-and-had-a-questionable-work-ethic/ Hate to break it to you but Josh Allen plays golf too! Flores is blaming his firing on having a bad QB plain and simple. He kept putting Fitzy in and the Dolphins had to finally get rid of Fitzy so he would play Tua. The rumors are that they are thinking if Houston hires Flores then Deshaun Watson will want to stay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) It would be funny if Houston hired Flores and traded Watson to Miami and got Tua back in the package. Edited January 15, 2022 by Beast 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Beast said: That would be funny if Houston hired Flores and traded Watson to Miami and got Tua back in the package. "Hey Coach! Wanna make up a foursome?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Don't all players take their days off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: A day off is a day off, otherwise it would be called work. The problem is he hasn’t earned the right to play golf or do whatever on days off in season. Golf also is a day long event, it’s not like he’s sitting down to play Fortnite for a couple hours. Whether we like it not, this isn’t a 9-5 job. He has five months to do whatever he wants in the off-season before mini camp and training camp start. And they’re paying him a substantial amount of money on top of it. Tua is a garbage quarterback and has held that team back. Flores came up around Brady who even being a league MVP would put in extra work. That’s the standard he’s holding him to. And instead of trying to get better in his most critical years of development he’s showing no initiative in doing it and hanging his teammates out to dry. Edited January 15, 2022 by Rampage 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I do the bare minimum to get by..... I just carry it off better than Tua No wonder you are a top 32 performer in Britain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 This is very unfair. There is not much more work he really could have done. He already mastered the 4-yard pass. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I believe Tua at a press conference (I would really have to dig for it) made a comment along the lines of I dont need to do anything outside of what’s asked of me.. I thought at the time what a weird comment… I guess when your used to watching Josh improvising and throwing his body on the line that kind of struck me as he’s not all in. I don’t know, Miami has treated him like crap too by never really shutting down the Watson stuff when it was out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The Bills are so lucky to have chosen a once in a generation athlete that looks to improve himself at his craft. I just hope Josh stays hungry because at some point it has to become a little boring. There are people that just keep it going, Michael Jordan comes to mind. Jordan just hated to lose at anything. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: No wonder you are a top 32 performer in Britain What can I say, I'm smart 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) I can’t even contain myself. How can any of you sleep? I am bouncing off the walls with boundless energy. I’ve done 8 pushups and 6 sit-ups and I swear on everything that I hold dear I could do 4 more, of each. GO BILLS, BABY! Edited January 15, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 47 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Hate to break it to you but Josh Allen plays golf too! Flores is blaming his firing on having a bad QB plain and simple. He kept putting Fitzy in and the Dolphins had to finally get rid of Fitzy so he would play Tua. The rumors are that they are thinking if Houston hires Flores then Deshaun Watson will want to stay Josh Allen has put in endless amounts of work to improve at his craft. Tua has not. Allen's earned the right to go play golf if he wants to, Tua has not. You think the dudes in that locker room respect him when they know he isn't committed to being the best QB he can be and improving as much as possible? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Flores isn't blameless in all of this. He was a big fan of Tua and in full agreement with the pick when they drafted him - and bears some of the responsibility for bringing Tua to Miami. If Tua had such a bad work ethic, didn't Flores have the opportunity to see that all through training camp and the first 7 weeks of the season before naming him the starter? Maybe he was under some pressure from management; however, the fact that he started Fitz for 7 games before replacing him with Tua, and pulling Tua out of 2 subsequent games showed Flores still had the last word in which QB played. I have no idea if these statements about Tua are true, but Flores certainly didn't help Tua's development with the way he handled the QB situation last year and during the height of the Watson to Miami rumors. I like Flores as a coach and I think Miami made a mistake in letting him go. But he has his share of culpability in what has transpired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Love hearing that Tua would rather play golf in his time off versus improve his craft. Yes, he can do what he wants in his time off. But if he’s a middling QB and doesn’t put the extra time in to get any better, that’s great for the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Now ask Flores what Watson does on his days off 2 2 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Flores putting on a clinic on how not to never get an NFL HC job again... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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