Solomon Grundy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Iād rather draft Breece!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 His best year was his rookie year and he's gone downhill since then due to injury.Ā I don't think he'll ever be the same player as he's looked very average at best this year when he is in the lineup.Ā Still struggles with vision and pass protection.Ā Hard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatherman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Barkley and a 2022 2nd rounder for Edmunds and a 2022 4th rounder. Ā Use cap savings draft on a true MLB and OL. Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If you can get the guy for a 2nd or 3rd, than yes you take a shot.Ā Ā Ā He is 2x the back Motor is and can literally carry a team when healthy.Ā Ā Ā Ā Given the guy's character he may take less long term to play with a perennial contender.Ā His cap number next year isnt outrageous, and with the cap skyrocketing in 2023 you may be able to sign him beyond that. Ā Ā All in on this one. Ā 3 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Ā Thank you. Someone with sense here.Ā Ā If he's available at a decent price you take him and deal with the risks. Devin is a good backup RB.Ā Ā Generational RB talent that has had bad injury luck. You would never get him otherwise. Take the gamble at the right price. No brainer. He would take us from very good team to dynasty level. People want a Thurman? Here he is.Ā He's played in less than 57% of his team's games the last 3 years, he's averaging 3.5 yards per carry & only has 2 TDs, he makes $7.2 million & he's going to be a free agent after 2022 unless you pay him enough to make him want to stay.Ā Ā The trade makes no sense salary cap-wise.Ā He has to prove he's healthy 1st before any team should take a shot on him, and then you have to hope he suddenly regains his form from 2018.Ā He's one of the main reasons the Giants will have a new GM next season.Ā Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Ā He's played in less than 57% of his team's games the last 3 years, he's averaging 3.5 yards per carry & only has 2 TDs, he makes $7.2 million & he's going to be a free agent after 2022 unless you pay him enough to make him want to stay.Ā Ā The trade makes no sense salary cap-wise.Ā He has to prove he's healthy 1st before any team should take a shot on him, and then you have to hope he suddenly regains his form from 2018.Ā He's one of the main reasons the Giants will have a new GM next season.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā One year $7.2M for a generational RB for a team that desperately needs one.Ā Ā You take that risk. Beane could make it work salary cap wise.Ā Ā Ā Don't overthink this.Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Say it with me: Ā Twitter. Is. Not. A. Source.Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ToGoGo said: Ā One year $7.2M for a generational RB for a team that desperately needs one.Ā Ā You take that risk. Beane could make it work salary cap wise.Ā Ā Ā Don't overthink this.Ā Ā He hasn't been "generational" for his current team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 not in the least interested in a high dollar running back until we get our O Line sorted out.Ā Ā good/great O LIne,Ā cheap mediocre RBsĀ become very very good.Ā Ā bad O Line makes every RB worthless. Ā as great as Barry Sanders was,Ā he never had an amazing O Line,Ā think about what he could have done with one,Ā also,Ā the Lions still stunk.Ā Ā wasted Barrys career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Only if they are giving us draft picks to take him. He's always gonna be hurt. Ā Hes on the same career trajectory as cj spiller same amount of hype. Ā At least CJ was available he just couldn't find "space" lol Ā Ā Edited January 2, 2022 by Sharky7337 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 5 hours ago, VaMilBill said: Pass. That dude is always injured.Ā He's the Anthony "street clothes" Davis version of the NFL.Ā Hard pass. Cut Moss and keep drafting until we find the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 One big year and one big injury after another. Pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I dunno, if he's healthy we have one of the top of the line training facility and coaches that can keep him on the field longer. Nice luxury if healthy but we badly need Line help on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) If the price is right, absolutely. He still showed some burst this year that our Singlemoss duo simply doesn't have. IĀ remember a 42 yd dump off reception or something like that in his first real game back for example. Plus he may still be coming back to an extent and the Giants are a pretty awful organization nowadays, a fresh start with a winner could be all he needs. Definitely a Breida upgrade at minimum. Edited January 2, 2022 by Nelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 No, lol, already on the decline. Ā Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Will Barkley be the new Ertz?Ā Ā Ā Can we get this up to 100 pages before being locked?Ā 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Gee, wonder if the Giants are thinking they really screwed up not drafting Allen with that #2 overall. But then, I can only imagine that Cleveland who passed on him TWICE at #1 & #4, the NY Jets at #3 chose Darnold. The Broncos at #5 chose Chubb, the Colts at #6 chose Nelson are all thinking that way... all of them need a top QB. Ā Most of the Buffalo fan base wanted Josh Rosen and were begging Beane to give up the farm to trade up with the NY Giants to the #2 spot to draft him... Ā In any event, no way for Barkley! Ā Build the O line to better protect Josh and help the run game.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 hours ago, JerseyBills said: "Twitter Speculates a Potential Saquon Barkley Trade to Bills | Heavy.com" https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/saquon-barkley-trade-rumors-bills-twitter/amp/ Ā I just stumbled across this article and they make a case for Barkley going to Buffalo. What do you guys think? He's a super hard worker and is always working on his craft.Ā I'm not sure if he lost a step or if teams just load the box against a Gmen team with no real passing game.Ā He checks all the boxes McBeane look for in a player but the price would have to be fairly low imo for them to consider this trade because of the injuries.Ā Availability is still the most important trait of any player.. Ā What you guys think? It's an interesting scenarioĀ No, it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 hours ago, mannc said: Heās probably worth a fourth. Ā Probably. Ā A 7th max and they pick up half his salary and all his bonus money Ā MCD and Beane Billieve in availability....if your not on the field you can't contribute. 6 hours ago, Sharky7337 said: Only if rhey are giving us draft picks to take him. He's always gonna be hurt. Ā Hes on the same career trajectory as cj spiller same amount of hype. Ā At least CJ was available he just couldn't find "space" lol Ā Ā Ā All the Big Boys blocking for you are in the middle of the field and if you can't run there your not going to be in the NFL long. Ā Everyone in the NFL is fast and if you rely on speed andĀ getting to the edge your already lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Iād trade a 5th rd pick for him if the Giants took his entire cap got for for next season.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Would rather draft and develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, JerseyBills said: "Twitter Speculates a Potential Saquon Barkley Trade to Bills | Heavy.com" https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/saquon-barkley-trade-rumors-bills-twitter/amp/ Ā I just stumbled across this article and they make a case for Barkley going to Buffalo. What do you guys think? He's a super hard worker and is always working on his craft.Ā I'm not sure if he lost a step or if teams just load the box against a Gmen team with no real passing game.Ā He checks all the boxes McBeane look for in a player but the price would have to be fairly low imo for them to consider this trade because of the injuries.Ā Availability is still the most important trait of any player.. Ā What you guys think? It's an interesting scenarioĀ Ā You got fooled on that article or you are the writer... the "Twitter SPeculates part" is from a guy with 3 likes and another tweet with zero likes, and one with 1 like... this is really reaching the bottom of the barrel for a story.Ā Ā You search Twitter I can bet you can find a tweet about Russell Wilson to the Bills doesn't mean "Twitter Speculates" Ā Ā This is the type of thing that shows you spend too much time on twitter. Edited January 2, 2022 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just upgrade the O Line in the draft and get a new O Line coach. It'll pay way higher dividends in the long run.Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Weatherman said: Barkley and a 2022 2nd rounder for Edmunds and a 2022 4th rounder. Ā Use cap savings draft on a true MLB and OL. Ā Replace a pro bowl LB with a rookie for a team that thinks they're close to a super bowl appearance. Hope not.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Ćookie_tech said: for a (late) 3rd. And have him as part of a committee. 12 carries a game, maybe he'll stay healthy. Not sure what his contract looks like though.Ā Ā Dude, you don't trade draft resources for a RB with a $7.2M contract so that he can be part of a committee and get 12 carries a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim0904 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 No.. I live in nyc and watches few giant games.Ā Their OL is pretty bad as ours he is not statically better than singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Ā One year $7.2M for a generational RB for a team that desperately needs one.Ā Ā You take that risk. Beane could make it work salary cap wise.Ā Ā Ā Don't overthink this.Ā Shawne Merriman-one year at big bucks for a generational LB for a team that desperately needs one.Ā You take the risk.Ā Don't overthink this.Ā Ā Ā Really?Ā What makes you think an oft injured underachiever who has done virtually nothing the last 2 seasons is a generational RB?Ā He had a great rookie year, declined in his sophomore season & has been invisible the last 2.Ā Ā Ā You know what other RB had his best year as a rookie?Ā Terry Miller.Ā Ā Ā Edited January 2, 2022 by Albany,n.y. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Similar to JJ Watt rumored PED use from his college days finally caught up to him and his body in now breaking down even after just a few seasonsā¦Iād give up like a 4th but thatās it Iād rather draft one like Breece Hall in like the 2nd roundĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Might as well bring him and Gurley in. Maybe bring in AP to compete too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Iād do itā¦..heād make this offense so explosive, plus our medical/training staff does a good job with injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 So we want a high priced guy who lives on IR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 āBarkley sucksā- All Giants fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 If itās a compensatory pick from one of the coaches we lose and we spend 2 of the first 3 picks on o line or address in free agency ok. We could get the third back if he goes off and we lose him to free agencyĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 He is almost the Doug Martin of generational players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Over paid and injury prone.Ā No.Ā Ā Draft a RB in the 3rd or 4th round.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Ā Really?Ā What makes you think an oft injured underachiever who has done virtually nothing the last 2 seasons is a generational RB?Ā He had a great rookie year, declined in his sophomore season & has been invisible the last 2.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā I have little interest in the Bills trading for a RB when the real issue is the OLine, but this take isn't really fair to Barkley. He had ~ 1500 yrds from scrimmage in his second season with no QB behind a horrific OLine when he was the only threat on the field and every opposing coach and player was keying on him every snap. That's a pretty galdanged impressive outing to call it a "decline". He tore an ACL at the beginning of the next year, which he was just recovering from barely 1 year later when he stepped on a linemen's foot and hurt an ankle he's been playing through all season. Barkley's a stand up kid, a ferocious worker and a high quality human being. If he ends up getting out of that gawdawful mess in New Jersey and finds himself on even an average offense next season, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him win some sort of Comeback Player of the Year award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 16 hours ago, JerseyBills said: "Twitter Speculates a Potential Saquon Barkley Trade to Bills | Heavy.com" https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/saquon-barkley-trade-rumors-bills-twitter/amp/ Ā I just stumbled across this article and they make a case for Barkley going to Buffalo. What do you guys think? He's a super hard worker and is always working on his craft.Ā I'm not sure if he lost a step or if teams just load the box against a Gmen team with no real passing game.Ā He checks all the boxes McBeane look for in a player but the price would have to be fairly low imo for them to consider this trade because of the injuries.Ā Availability is still the most important trait of any player.. Ā What you guys think? It's an interesting scenarioĀ Terrible. Ā Heavy.com just reports chatter on Twitter. Ā Thereās no reliable source behind this article. Ā Might as well publish āBills will fire Sean McDermott after NE according to TSWā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 16 hours ago, JerseyBills said: "Twitter Speculates a Potential Saquon Barkley Trade to Bills | Heavy.com" https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-giants/saquon-barkley-trade-rumors-bills-twitter/amp/ Ā I just stumbled across this article and they make a case for Barkley going to Buffalo. What do you guys think? He's a super hard worker and is always working on his craft.Ā I'm not sure if he lost a step or if teams just load the box against a Gmen team with no real passing game.Ā He checks all the boxes McBeane look for in a player but the price would have to be fairly low imo for them to consider this trade because of the injuries.Ā Availability is still the most important trait of any player.. Ā What you guys think? It's an interesting scenarioĀ Iād give a fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: Ā I have little interest in the Bills trading for a RB when the real issue is the OLine, but this take isn't really fair to Barkley. He had ~ 1500 yrds from scrimmage in his second season when he was the only threat on the field and every opposing coach and player was keying on him every snap. That's a pretty galdanged impressive outing to call it a "decline". He tore an ACL at the beginning of the next year, which he was just recovering from barely 1 year later when he stepped on a linemen's foot and hurt an ankle he's been playing through all season. Barkley's a stand up kid, a ferocious worker and a high quality human being. If he ends up getting out of that gawdawful mess in New Jersey and finds himself on even an average offense next season, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him win some sort of Comeback Player of the Year award. Even if he wins comeback player, he will either leave for big $ or become a salary cap nightmare.Ā If he wasn't entering his final contract year as a huge? , he'd be a lot more appealing.Ā There's no way the Bills can justify extending him before next season & no respectable agent would let him sign an extension at the lowest point of his market value.Ā Not a good business decision to rent a ? at $7.2 million.Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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