Breaking News: Odell Beckham is set to be released

[Fan in Chicago]

We don't need characters like OBJ on this team. Period. 

[BuffaloBorn1960]

1 minute ago, 97bills said:

The rams probably get him, there all in!!! And that defense is going to be special there doing everything they can to win a super bowl and I wish my bills would. P.s that was a joke about them going after OBJ 

He is going to Detroit or Jacksonville… 

[No_Matter_What]

24 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I tried to create a poll but apparently @Chandler#81 wasn't feeling it.   

 

I voted the Saints. Most likely not a fit culturally, and he will probably be looking for a Super Bowl contender, but I thought the LSU tie might be strong enough to make this work.  

Poll is actually working despite the lock...

[buffaloboyinATL]

Just now, No_Matter_What said:

Poll is actually working despite the lock...

I guess we can vote there and give our reasoning here.

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBorn1960 said:

He is going to Detroit or Jacksonville… 

I hope so. I'd hate to see him end up in NE or KC. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBorn1960 said:

He is going to Detroit or Jacksonville… 

Lions are the number 1 pick, so this could happen.  I laughed because Odell's head will explode if the Lions or Jags take him off of waivers.

[Dr. Who]

Just now, BuffaloBorn1960 said:

He is going to Detroit or Jacksonville… 

If they acquire him by waiver claim, they also acquire his massive contract. Don't think anyone is going to claim him on those terms.

He'll become a free agent.

[Nihilarian]

8 minutes ago, Putin said:

I guess you forgot the AFC championship game where ALL of our WR’s were dinged up 

 

I think that game was far more about what Tony Romo called the Chiefs "sticky" defense. With all their holding, grabbing and even with their offensive line.

 

The Refs wouldn't let them get away with all that stuff in the SB against the Bucs. We all saw that result.

 

The reality might just be that now that the Chiefs need to play by the same rules as all other teams they just might not be that good.

 

 

[Paul Costa]

I actually think Buffalo 🦬 is the perfect place for him. I’m not saying Buffalo 🦬 wants him. He comes off as a really big duchy Diva right now. He has a bad shoulder. He just threw his QB under the bus 🚌. He is not a good route runner. 
If I’m his agent we need to go to a place to kick the Diva stigma, catch some balls and play in January in big games. I’d be calling Beane saying we’d come for the minimum. Beasley is already banged up and Manny is 34. He can help down the stretch. 

[Weatherman]

3 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Chiefs are going to get him,  they need a boost right now to flip their season

They have $3M in cap space and have restructured everyone including the water boys salary.  They are going to have trouble fitting him in under the cap…but it’s possible I guess.  

[aristocrat]

[Rico]

3 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Going to the Chiefs.  BOOK IT,  he fits perfect into the type of players Andy Reid likes.  Not afraid to sign guys that are not perfect people but have great talent. That is why he has a Super Bowl and has been there many times.  Everyone counting the Chiefs out,  they get Beckham and that oftence will get back on track

 

NIAGARA DUDE said it first,  BECKHAM signs with Chiefs or my second choice would be Ram which I would prefer he go West

Doesn’t matter, their QB blows.

[Son of a K-Gun]

29 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Lions are the number 1 pick, so this could happen.  I laughed because Odell's head will explode if the Lions or Jags take him off of waivers.

If he goes to the Jags he'll at least get an upgrade at QB 😏

[Mr. WEO]

18 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I actually think Buffalo 🦬 is the perfect place for him. I’m not saying Buffalo 🦬 wants him. He comes off as a really big duchy Diva right now. He has a bad shoulder. He just threw his QB under the bus 🚌. He is not a good route runner. 
If I’m his agent we need to go to a place to kick the Diva stigma, catch some balls and play in January in big games. I’d be calling Beane saying we’d come for the minimum. Beasley is already banged up and Manny is 34. He can help down the stretch. 

 

 

Beasely was the star (huge 3rd down conversions on 3 second half scoring drives) of the Miami game and Sanders has the second most receiving yards and an insane 17.2 YPC and is unlikely to die of old age "down the stretch"....

 

OBJ is used up.  

[JaCrispy]

5 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Chris Simms thinks the Bills should get him, and I don't disagree. The offense needs something else. The receivers aren't as great as everyone seems to think.

You’re right...we only score 32 points a game...😉

 

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, FieldGeneral said:

 

A player with 4 or less years is placed on the Waiver Wire and the Waiver order has to be followed. Players with more than 4 years are released and able to sign with anyone. 

 

This is correct before the trade deadline.  After the trade deadline, all players who are released are subject to waivers.

 

I didn't know this, read it in the other Beckham thread and looked it up - it's true.

42 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

If they acquire him by waiver claim, they also acquire his massive contract. Don't think anyone is going to claim him on those terms.

He'll become a free agent.

 

The Browns are said to be restructuring his contract, so who knows what it will be when he's released?

[JoPoy88]

47 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

If they acquire him by waiver claim, they also acquire his massive contract. Don't think anyone is going to claim him on those terms.

He'll become a free agent.

It’s also been floated by some that OBJ could make it clear around the league through his agent/representatives that he does not intend to report if claimed off waivers, basically forcing himself into free agency. He’d likely make far less doing that, even after the restructuring the Browns are doing to his contract last minute. But he will gain some freedom in choosing where to go, which he probably values more at this point.

[Herc11]

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Considering Brandon Beane's emphasis on character, our cap space, and our depth chart at WR - I don't get how we're so high on this list....

 

Do people forget he was looking at AB at one time?

[LABILLBACKER]

58 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

He's dropping passes non stop too.  In 6 games this year I'm pretty sure hes dropped 3 4th down passes that hit him square in the chest.

OBJ hasn't been relevant since 2016. Just get Gabe more touches. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Chris Simms thinks the Bills should get him, and I don't disagree. The offense needs something else. The receivers aren't as great as everyone seems to think.

 

I think the "something else" the team needs is 1) better OL play 2) an upgrade at RB 3) Josh Allen to set his mind on "take what the defense gives you" at the start of the game.

[Niagara Dude]

32 minutes ago, Rico said:

Doesn’t matter, their QB blows.

No he does not,  maybe a slump but still one of the best QB's in the league

[Mat68]

5 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

He and his father posted videos that show him wide open and Baker Mayfield refuses to throw to him. Basically why he is disgruntled.

 

The thing is... the Browns use a timing scheme where a receiver needs to be at a certain spot on the field at a particular time...and Beckham never is. Meanwhile blaming the QB for not getting him the ball more often. 

 

Stevie Johnson anyone?

 

No thanks...

Not accurate imo.  Ive seen multiple breakdowns weeks ago breaking down OBJ and Mayfield.  Play designs vs coverages.  Odell is running the defense beater route.  He is open for a big play and Mayfield looks at the wrong side of the field.  Multiple times in multiple games.  My father is a Browns fan so I watch them more than any other team.  Its a weird situation.  
 

OBJ would thrive with Buffalos offense and Allen as a qb.  He is probably 10 to 15% less than what his peak was.  He still would be by far the second best wr on the team.  Buffalo is pass first and Beckham would have a opportunity to make plays.   

[Niagara Dude]

3 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Don't count on it. People said the same thing when they picked up Lev Bell. Shady McCoy. Kelvin Benjamin was just "misused" and about to ignite KC...remember that? Josh Gordon this year.

 

Andy Reid...this is what he does. He picks up players that are about done and tries to squeeze something out of them and it rarely works out well. None of those players mentioned above were key components to win the Chiefs SB. When Beckham is released everyone will see that the dude is living off name recognition right now.

Those guys are not on the same level,  if he goes the Chiefs he will have space playing with Hill & Kelce

[Solomon Grundy]

6 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Diggs wasn’t a problem but for a short period.  Beckham has been a problem almost constantly.  
 

He doesn’t see how the browns will take him to the promised land, so he manufactured his release.  Browns and him are altering his contract to give the browns relief when released.  Does that mean it will be backloaded and continues to be a tough contract for someone to grab him on waivers?  If he does become a UFA, I see him looking at a team that has the chance to go all the way.  Rams, tb?.  
 

Don’t see him as a fit for the Bills.  Would rather not have him and his issues on this team.

Beckham’s issue’s are a problem but Incognito’s wasn’t 🤦🏽

5 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

We don’t need him.  He’d take throws away from Diggs and Sanders.

Wouldn’t that be ideal? Who would teams focus on during games?

[Scott7975]

How long before he signs with KC?

 

[Solomon Grundy]

31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

OBJ is used up

They said the same thing about Randy Moss in Oakland 

[benderbender]

This may have already been answered, but why didn’t the Browns rework his contract and trade him? His hissy fit happened before the deadline, they had time to make their cap hit minimal AND dump him

off on another team. At least they would have gotten something back in return for him.

[dpberr]

1 hour ago, bahamasbills said:

Do we really?  Diggs isn't even getting enough targets.  Beasley has games where he isn't targeted.  Gabe Davis isn't getting much burn at all and it isnt because of lack of talent.  Where are these footballs that are left to catch?

 

I feel they will be there.  It's a long season, and a rotation of WRs may keep them all with "legs" come playoff time.  It's also a hedge against a catastrophic injury.  An injury to Diggs and/or Beasley would be a big problem.    I like Gabe Davis but he's still learning. I like Emanuel Sanders, but those legs have run a lot of routes.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, benderbender said:

This may have already been answered, but why didn’t the Browns rework his contract and trade him? His hissy fit happened before the deadline, they had time to make their cap hit minimal AND dump him

off on another team. At least they would have gotten something back in return for him.

 

That's a really good question.  Perhaps Beckham didn't want to go to any of the teams who enquired about a trade so his reps dragged their feet on the renegotiation?

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

15 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Those guys are not on the same level,  if he goes the Chiefs he will have space playing with Hill & Kelce

Same level as what? He's guy who made a name for himself years ago, never lived up to what his rep became and has spent years racking up more injuries than TDs. Yea, he's on that level.

 

Even that video his daddy put our shows his flaws. Time and again you see "he's open" however the reason he was "open" was the play happened on the other side of the field. There are multiple routes they show that he was "open" down the field while Baker was running for his life. Did Beckham do what smart WRs do and work back to the QB? Nah, just ran his route. Never attempted to help his guys out because that would hurt his YPC...right?

 

Not shown in his daddy's video: The horrendous drops (which is likely a reason Mayfield lost confidence throwing to him) and the fact that a stiff wind puts the guy out for 2 games. 

 

He's exactly who he looks to be right now. KC getting him would be a moot point. 

 

 

 

 

[Mango]

27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the "something else" the team needs is 1) better OL play 2) an upgrade at RB 3) Josh Allen to set his mind on "take what the defense gives you" at the start of the game.

I think number 3 will benefit 1 and 2 greatly. And really the only way we can relieve the pressure off the OL mid season at this point. 

[aristocrat]

17 minutes ago, benderbender said:

This may have already been answered, but why didn’t the Browns rework his contract and trade him? His hissy fit happened before the deadline, they had time to make their cap hit minimal AND dump him

off on another team. At least they would have gotten something back in return for him.

 

Why would he? He needs to get his numbers up this season and play for a deal in the off season. He had no more guaranteed money in his deal. His best move is to to a winner not a team desperate for a guy.  

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

And no team runs more 3-4 WR's then the Bills. 

 

It probably comes down to a couple factors if they're even talking about OBJ. Are they comfortable with Davis and do they believe Knox is truly a weapon.

 

I'm interested to see if they're even interested.

I don't think anyone would trade for his contract.

 

I'm not against OBJ because he would be the best 4th WR in the league.  

I think we are very good at WR so I would take a chance on OBJ....he slips once and just get rid of him quickly.

[ngbills]

At a minimum he provides a good end zone threat that could help our red zone offense. Would be shocked if we got him though. 

[Marv Levy]

OBJ is an overrated diva. I hate this guy. No way would I want him in Buffalo. A real team cancer.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Marv Levy

[ColoradoBills]

Wow there are going to be a lot of disappointed fans (I don't know why anyone wants him on the Bills) when Beane passes on 

putting in a waiver claim.

[Royale with Cheese]

He hasn't had good QB since his 2nd year in NYG.  

 

I just heard on the Extra Point Show that 42% of Mayfield's passes were considered uncatchable to OBJ.  Holy crap...Mayfield is that bad??

[Mickey]

   Odell's Next Destination?

[BuffaloBill]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

I’d offer two first for him…. Oh wait…..😳

 

We’ll take a $1M of your cash instead, no draft picks required…..

[Alphadawg7]

I’m curious if he clears waivers or if someone claims him off waivers to make sure they get him.  
 

I bet he clears waivers though.  I think the most likely landing spots (in no particular order) are going to be:

 

KC (so desperate for a WR they signed Gordon)

Saints (only team to at least inquire about a trade before deadline for OBJ)

Raiders (just lost Ruggs)

Ravens (Still need more help at WR)

Patriots (Need better receiving weapon)

Packers (obvious need at WR).

 

Outside chance teams:  Niners, Colts, Bills, Eagles.

 

If I had to place a bet, I think it’s the Packers.  He wants to win, they want to go all in on Rodgers likely last season in GB, and they are a clear favorite in the NFC.  Not only do they need a WR, but they just their starting TE for the season in Tonyan.