Trade deadline buzz

[Doc]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

I sworeeee i read or saw a video on Cover 1, that obada played last week, cause I remember being surprised.

Can anyone verify?

 

He did.  I guess I looked at gamebooks from games 2-4 and figured he didn't.  

[bigduke6]

Cowgirls would ask  the moon for Diggs.    dont think Ford gets much in return.   depth at CB is the one weakness we have,  and finding anybody thats a huge upgrade at the right price point is extremely unlikely.   other than that,  dont mess with whats working.

Edited October 14, 2021 by bigduke6

[BillsShredder83]

On 10/12/2021 at 9:45 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

This defense is an elite pass rusher away from being incredible.

 

I think Zimmer easily fills in Oliver's shoes.  

 

I think Boogie and Rosseau are good young ends.  

 

AJ is a young talent but I'm willing to give that up at a deep position to separate us even more with an elite end like Jones.

I'll do it but only if they throw in Chandlers brother. We coulda used him suited up at the end of the AFCCG last year when all the pushing started!

[Cheektowaga Chad]

14 hours ago, ganesh said:

Haha,..that would be truly awesome and put us on the doorsteps to SB victory

why would we care about upgrading Brieda when we haven't even put him on the field.  I think the Bills are saving him for the 2nd half of the season.  His speed kills. 

Brieda to me is more a McKenzie back up than an rb back up. Which plays a role in my opinion of wanting to upgrade that rb spot

 

We haven't had a need for him to play yet but an upgrade in depth especially if its cheap is something the bills should look into. 

 

We have 2 rbs in my opinion right now and grabbing a vet to place on the practice squad. Kind of like they did last year with freeman 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

A truckload of Utz hot chips. Damn those are good.

For the deal to jettison the 'Ertzians', I will settle for three cases. 😁

(Immediately thinks to self, "did I ever advocate Ertz?")

[Solomon Grundy]

Would anyone else be willing to swap Motor for Miles Sanders?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

On 10/14/2021 at 10:55 AM, BigBuff423 said:

 

Regarding Feliciano, I'm not so sure...he has a dead cap hit of $1.5, and given his full salary is $5.25 and has been a starter for going on three years now, I think the Bills see his value as depth at the very least for another year. His last year dead cap is $750k and that make sense after a couple of their young guys get some maturity and development, but I can't see them simply cutting him IMO, given what he brings to the Offensive Line.

 

I think one of the two guards, either Williams or Mongo could be gone next year being replaced by a fairly highly rated FA.  Also think Morse may be gone and see the Bills drafting in 2nd or 3rd an interior lineman with the plan to start him as a rookie.  If it's a guard, then Mongo plays center, if it's a center, then he stays put.

 

Putting my two thoughts together tells me they let Williams go, sign a better replacement and draft center/guard and Mongo plays whichever position of those two the rookie doesn't play.

 

Also think they draft another interior lineman later on around 5th or 6th.

 

Could see them trading Ford after this week as have two backups in Ike and Bates, may get a 6th in return.

 

Do think the Bills will also draft a punter around the 5th or 6th unless we see improvement.  Of all the starting positions I honestly think punter may be our weakest spot.

[Doc]

7 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

I think one of the two guards, either Williams or Mongo could be gone next year being replaced by a fairly highly rated FA.  Also think Morse may be gone and see the Bills drafting in 2nd or 3rd an interior lineman with the plan to start him as a rookie.  If it's a guard, then Mongo plays center, if it's a center, then he stays put.

 

Putting my two thoughts together tells me they let Williams go, sign a better replacement and draft center/guard and Mongo plays whichever position of those two the rookie doesn't play.

 

Also think they draft another interior lineman later on around 5th or 6th.

 

Could see them trading Ford after this week as have two backups in Ike and Bates, may get a 6th in return.

 

Do think the Bills will also draft a punter around the 5th or 6th unless we see improvement.  Of all the starting positions I honestly think punter may be our weakest spot.

 

Unless Williams isn't playing well at RG (and even if he is, he still has value as a RT), I don't see him going anywhere.  Not at an average salary of $6M for the next 2 years.  You're not finding anyone that cheap and good.

[Dopey]

8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Would anyone else be willing to swap Motor for Miles Sanders?

Wouldn't hate it.

[Dick_Cheney]

Shocked to even see Diggs' name mentioned in this thread.

 

Wouldn't take less than 3 firsts for him. Maybe 2 firsts and a 2nd/3rd. He's not going anywhere, even the Cowboys.

[BuffaloBills1998]

On 10/12/2021 at 7:14 PM, Pabstblueribbon said:

I wonder if McBean has gotten any calls about Mitch? Russell Wilson and Daniel Jones both went down this weekend, on top of the already depleted qb situation across the league. 

We’re not letting go of Mitch. There is no one worth while behind Allen if you trade off Mitch. He’s staying a Bill this year. 

[Robert Paulson]

On 10/14/2021 at 9:39 AM, appoo said:

At least the rise of Dawson Knox means we can ignore Zack Ertz.

 

if the Bills make a move I’d be curious about an upgrade to CB2 and Feliciano. 
 

Feliciano is probably in his last year here
 

 

mongo had a good game Sunday night and he plays center- maybe better than guard.  i think we have 8 of our o-line for the next 2 years already on the roster. ford probably gone but all the other starters are staying.

 

why drop someone who is here for a high priced free agent that may not fit?

 

CB2 is fine- you can't have two T Whites or all pros at every position.  there will be fringe moves and restocks for the 2023-24 seasons drafted next year but this is our team for the next 2 years

[ganesh]

15 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

mongo had a good game Sunday night and he plays center- maybe better than guard.  i think we have 8 of our o-line for the next 2 years already on the roster. ford probably gone but all the other starters are staying.

 

why drop someone who is here for a high priced free agent that may not fit?

 

CB2 is fine- you can't have two T Whites or all pros at every position.  there will be fringe moves and restocks for the 2023-24 seasons drafted next year but this is our team for the next 2 years

That is our SB Window !

[CSBill]

Beane is always full of surprises, but NOPE, I do not see any trades coming. .... Unless it's someone like Ford (a back-up) for draft picks. (Note: The Bills have protected PS player, Jamil Douglas, every week. I keep wondering why?)

[TheBeaneBandit]

Many mocks had Ford going to the Vikings in the 1st round and they are a run heavy team which matches his strengths so you never know, but I just don't really see any trades at all.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Being that we are a legit SB contender I'm hoping Beane holds on to the depth we have. Guys like Ford, Phillips, Butler ect ate hot names for fans to want to move on from...but an injury or 2 late on the year and these guys are useful. While a g it like Cory Ford has shown he is replacement level at best in our offense...he is still way more helpful than a 6th round pick being stashed in the vault. 

 

I think this is the year that if any moves are made that we should be buyers. 

[maryland-bills-fan]

On 10/14/2021 at 11:39 AM, BillsShredder83 said:

I sworeeee i read or saw a video on Cover 1, that obada played last week, cause I remember being surprised.

Can anyone verify?

 

...........Obada played 40 % of the defensive snaps.  He had the 3rd most DE snaps on the team.  All 6 DE played and had 33% or more of the snaps. .................      https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/buffalo-bills-snap-counts-depth-chart-kansas-city-chiefs-2/

[YoloinOhio]

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I think Daboll could draw up some fun ways to use Engram in his system

[LABILLBACKER]

On 10/14/2021 at 9:14 AM, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Brieda to me is more a McKenzie back up than an rb back up. Which plays a role in my opinion of wanting to upgrade that rb spot

 

We haven't had a need for him to play yet but an upgrade in depth especially if its cheap is something the bills should look into. 

 

We have 2 rbs in my opinion right now and grabbing a vet to place on the practice squad. Kind of like they did last year with freeman 

I don't care what role you want to assign Breida, he has officially become TJ Yeldon. He won't play at all unless one of our 2 mediocre rbs get injured. 

On 10/16/2021 at 4:21 AM, CSBill said:

Beane is always full of surprises, but NOPE, I do not see any trades coming. .... Unless it's someone like Ford (a back-up) for draft picks. (Note: The Bills have protected PS player, Jamil Douglas, every week. I keep wondering why?)

If we could land a decent TE for Addison,  I'd do it.

[GunnerBill]

Seems Watson to Miami is heating up.

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Seems Watson to Miami is heating up.

Been hot so long it's got to be pretty burnt by now.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I’d be fine if they shopped Ford, Phillips, and Epenesa. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I think looking into Miles Sanders would be pretty smart. He is really fast and there is no way it would cost that much. You could even trade them Singletary if it made it easier. That’s not how I’d do it but I realize there is only 1 ball. Sanders would absolutely be a home run threat and can also help the passing game. There id an element of speed missing from our offense and that is a pretty reasonable option that id realistic IMO

[Hebert19]

Sounds like we are obvious choice for engram depending on Knox hand. 

[Beast]

33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Would love to see the Bills be aggressive at the deadline…. Probably too much to ask.

 

Why is that "probably too much to ask"?

[BuffaloRebound]

Time for Beane to go for it.  Can’t see us winning a Lombardi without improving the running game.  

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Just don’t get that feel they will be aggressive…. They are very conservative when it comes to mortgaging their future and cap space…. But they did make a trade(and a bad one) for Kelvin Benjamin in Beane first year at the deadline.

 

I don't put that on Beane. He was on pace for a 1000 yard season when he came to the Bills.  Then he got Tuh-ROD'd.   There was no indication that Benjamin would immediately turn into a lazy bum in his only full year with the Bills. 

 

[Clyde Smith]

11 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I’d be fine if they shopped Ford, Phillips, and Epenesa. 

I'd rather they shop Obada than Epenesa.

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Just don’t get that feel they will be aggressive…. They are very conservative when it comes to mortgaging their future and cap space…. But they did make a trade(and a bad one) for Kelvin Benjamin in Beane first year at the deadline.

 

If they can, they will.  The cap is the issue.

[NoSaint]

On 10/12/2021 at 8:30 PM, JaCrispy said:

Hoping we don’t give up any of our DL...an injury here or there and we could be short handed in no time...screw saving money! we need all hands on deck for a championship run! 👍

But if it got us a corner that dresses in exchange for a guy not even dressing when we have both a surplus of bodies but also could consolidate snaps into a tighter rotation if someone went down would you complain?

[BuffaloRebound]

As an aside, how can Ford not crack the starting lineup on this OL?  I’m fine trading him for anything at this point.  Engram for Ford would make sense for both teams.  

[LabattBlue]

Acquiring another RB would be a waste of time. The OL run blocking is below average, and at this point, the pass blocking isn’t much better. 

[Captain Hindsight]

18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Seems Watson to Miami is heating up.

Az about to send ertz to Buffalo too

[Hapless Bills Fan]

32 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

As an aside, how can Ford not crack the starting lineup on this OL?  

 

Durrr, because he wasn't gettin' 'er done with regard to pass protection.  Our line was a sieve with him in there.  It's bad, but he was grading out the worst.

 

32 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’m fine trading him for anything at this point.  Engram for Ford would make sense for both teams.  

 

Why would it make sense for Pittsburgh, with an immobile elderly QB, to trade for an OLman who got benched for inability to protect an agile young buck with high ability to escape on his own?

[Gambit]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Durrr, because he wasn't gettin' 'er done with regard to pass protection.  Our line was a sieve with him in there.  It's bad, but he was grading out the worst.

 

 

Why would it make sense for Pittsburgh, with an immobile elderly QB, to trade for an OLman who got benched for inability to protect an agile young buck with high ability to escape on his own?

Engram is a Giant

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I’d be fine if they shopped Ford, Phillips, and Epenesa. 

 

Epenesa was a 2nd round pick and has shown marked improvement his 2nd year.   His snap count has gone up, even with being inactive last game.

 

I think he's not a "sunk cost" yet.

 

Ford and Phillips may be sunk costs.

4 minutes ago, Gambit said:

Engram is a Giant

 

Durrr I read that and thought "Ebrom"

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

Not quite a trade opportunity, but can Jerome Bettis come back and play for 4 months? 🙂

That goal line attempt vs the Titans was the Bus' bread and butter play. I wish we had a back like him even if for spot duty. 

[Logic]

12 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I think looking into Miles Sanders would be pretty smart. He is really fast and there is no way it would cost that much. You could even trade them Singletary if it made it easier. That’s not how I’d do it but I realize there is only 1 ball. Sanders would absolutely be a home run threat and can also help the passing game. There id an element of speed missing from our offense and that is a pretty reasonable option that id realistic IMO

I like Sanders well enough, but I don't really see how he gives our offense an element that Matt Breida wouldn't. 

If they want to add speed to the backfield, they need only to make active on game day the running back that's already on their roster, already knows the playbook, and won't cost any draft compensation to acquire.

[YoloinOhio]

47 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Az about to send ertz to Buffalo too

In exchange for eichel