Gugny Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Just Joshin' said: My wife who is football novice walked into the room when watching a game she was doing and asked who is the person who is so bad? No because she is a she but lacking in talent. The "people don't like her because she's a female," narrative is lazy and weak. She is a woman who sucks at her job. Key words, "sucks at her job." (not "woman") Everyone on the PLANET thought Jason Witten sucked in the booth. Why? Because he sucked. I don't recall anyone saying, "you just don't like him because he's a man!" It's pure crap. She's horrible, period. 5 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said: No. People don’t like her because she has a terrible voice. She is very intelligent and great at her job, but voice matters when announcing games. Same reason I can’t stand Collinsworth or Gumble. For me, she is a version of a younger Brent Musburger. Annoying voice, constantly trying to force spots to hype and inject vocal excitement that makes her voice even more annoying. It took Brent about 20 out of his 27 years to finally meter himself enough for me to listen to him. Cripes, I hope it doesn't take Beth as long. So sad that some reflexively turn to sexism as an excuse for her incompetence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gugny said: The "people don't like her because she's a female," narrative is lazy and weak. She is a woman who sucks at her job. Key words, "sucks at her job." (not "woman") Everyone on the PLANET thought Jason Witten sucked in the booth. Why? Because he sucked. I don't recall anyone saying, "you just don't like him because he's a man!" It's pure crap. She's horrible, period. This. She stinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Ugh, they may as well use the teacher from the Peanuts cartoons, would probably sound about the same 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Mowins is the worst. I don't care what her gender is. Her voice is cringe-worthy and her commentary is untimely. She is my least favorite broadcaster on any network. I have to miss one of the next two Bills games for a family commitment. The commitment has to be on one a Sunday, either that one or the following one. I think I will miss the Houston game. I was leaning that way anyway, as it isn't a great matchup, but Mowins may have be the final nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, r00tabaga said: This may be an unpopular opinion but to me Dan Dierdorf was the worst broadcaster of all time and I remember turning the volume down when we played the dolphins several times.... Unlistenable. He WAS terrible. -and nowhere to be seen today cause of it. Mowins is the female equivalent. 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I always find the announcers that played sports to overall be more knowledgeable in calling the games. They have a better feel of knowing what the emphasize and what to prod the color commentator on. Just my two cents. Not so, really. Listen to the ex-players on the early morning shows on NFLR. I find myself changing th station! 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: I thought we graduated from Beth Mowins games So did I!😳 Must be Allen’s slump..🤷♂️ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 NFL needs to recruit phone sex operators, and teach them about football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: NFL needs to recruit phone sex operators, and teach them about football. Buffalo tried that once when Rex Ryan was the coach, you saw how that went 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I guess this will be a radio sync day for sure... 1 hour ago, CuseBill said: I'm probably the least sexist person I know. I read that as "least sexiest" person and was about to post a Captain Obvious meme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Gugny said: The "people don't like her because she's a female," narrative is lazy and weak. She is a woman who sucks at her job. Key words, "sucks at her job." (not "woman") Everyone on the PLANET thought Jason Witten sucked in the booth. Why? Because he sucked. I don't recall anyone saying, "you just don't like him because he's a man!" It's pure crap. She's horrible, period. And yet, there are many, many other horrible NFL announcers who don't elicit one tenth the hate and groans on this forum that Mowins elicits. Bills draw bad announcers all the time, but it usually doesn't turn into a five+ page thread. I am really curious to know what it would take for most of the Mowins haters on here to actually enjoy a female announcer -- other than her being physically attractive. I really don't think it's all that radical or bold to presume that there's a certain segment of football fans who don't like the idea of a female announcer, period. In my opinion, it's just as lazy to assume that that type of misogyny outright doesn't exist than it is to assume that everyone subscribes to it. Some here may genuinely dislike Mowins solely on the basis of her announcing skills or lack thereof, but to think that NONE of the dislike being thrown her way has to do with her gender seems naive. Edited September 24, 2021 by Logic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Absolutely. Even when she does broadcasts for college football, she is tough to listen to. Her voice is just flat. And she does this weird enunciation thing as well...it's so annoying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, Logic said: And yet, there are many, many other horrible NFL announcers who don't elicit one tenth the hate and groans on this forum that Mowins elicits. Bills draw bad announcers all the time, but it usually doesn't turn into a five+ page thread. I am really curious to know what it would take for most of the Mowins haters on here to actually enjoy a female announcer -- other than her being physically attractive. I really don't think it's all that radical or bold to presume that there's a certain segment of football fans who don't like the idea of a female announcer, period. In my opinion, it's just as lazy to assume that that type of misogyny outright doesn't exist than it is to assume that everyone subscribes to it. Some here may genuinely dislike Mowins solely on the basis of her announcing skills or lack thereof, but to think that NONE of the dislike being thrown her way has to do with her gender seems naive. How are you sure Mowins identifies with the gender you are assuming xe identifies as? Do you know xir pronouns? That’s kinda presumptist and frankly I’m tired of this mindset that is outdated as of five minutes ago. 11 minutes ago, eball said: And she does this weird enunciation thing as well...it's so annoying. Solomon Wilcots and the Jennifer… I mean Buffalo Beals still takes the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Logic said: I am really curious to know what it would take for most of the Mowins haters on here to actually enjoy a female announcer -- other than her being physically attractive. So now it's about the fact that you don't find Beth Mowins attractive and you're projecting that as the reason others don't like her voice? Who's the misogynist now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: We need the confused reaction back. I'm not sure what you think it says about me. Evabody funny. Now you funny too. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) All I gotta say is I could listen to, and look at, Suzy Kolber any time, all the time. But those who are commenting on her voice, I just think back to the Fabulous Sports Babe. She was great on the radio. Very knowledgeable. Listened to her quite often. I never once thought her voice was nails on a chalkboard. So I don't think people saying they can't listen to her has nothing to do with her gender. It's just she doesn't have a voice that is listenable. Some of us don't. Edited September 24, 2021 by Draconator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisele Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, Draconator said: All I gotta say is I could listen to, and look at, Suzy Kolber any time, all the time. But those who are commenting on her voice, I just think back to the Fabulous Sports Babe. She was great on the radio. Very knowledgeable. Listened to her quite often. I never once thought her voice was nails on a chalkboard. So I don't think people saying they can't listen to her has nothing to do with her gender. It's just she doesn't have a voice that is listenable. Some of us don't. 100% this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Welcome to Buffalo, Beth Mowins. Interested in a folding table?? Some condiments?? Edited September 24, 2021 by Solomon Grundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) I'm all for women calling football games, but why did they go out of their way to pick a woman who sounds like a dude? It's like vegetarians who say it's disgusting to animals and then spend good money on substitutes designed to taste... like animals. Edited September 24, 2021 by RobbRiddick My Wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, White Linen said: I was really hoping for Aqib Talib. I wouldn’t mind that. I like Aqib. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Maybe I'll buy tickets to the game now. Shrewd move CBS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I just found a picture of Beth (never seen her before). I can't believe how much she looks like Rex Ryan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 This is what happens when your offense isn’t exciting to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Cue the Beth Mowins hate. She's a good announcer, but the hatred runs deep at TBD. yeah and if she decides to come on here and read this thread just brutal, kinda feel bad for the lady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Glad this is the one game I'm going to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 It could be worse, we could get Booger McFarland and the ghost of Warren Sapp. Now that would be a highly intelligent well thought out broadcast. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 i stream my games so i will need to mute this.... excepting suggestions for sound to play during the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I guess this will be a radio sync day for sure... I'd like to hear the opinions of those here who have heard her announce a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Sports commentators of any gender can only aspire to this brilliance...never ceases to make me laugh, sometimes to the point of crying: https://www.today.com/video/mary-carillo-s-badminton-rant-remains-the-best-sports-commentary-of-all-time-747874883720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Beach said: i stream my games so i will need to mute this.... excepting suggestions for sound to play during the game! Streaming a lot of times gives the home/away option... hope she isnt on both. If so ill mute it and listen on WGR even though its hard to sync the 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Grr painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, first_and_ten said: I'd like to hear the opinions of those here who have heard her announce a game. Huh? She's terrible. Yarrrrds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, transient said: It is gender related insofar as her female biology is responsible for the development of her vocal cords which produce her godawful voice. Beyond that, all else being equal, she would be just as annoying to listen to if she had the same voice AND a penis. ^^ For me it is this 100%. Different voice, different story. I watched college games in which she has broadcasted, the content is there and she’s pretty smooth, but that voice. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: She’s terrible. I don’t even know if she knows much about football. I can’t get past her horrible voice! You wanna offer equality in sports broadcasting? Fine. Just hire people who don’t make you cringe at the sound of your voice! She actually calls a decent game if you can get past her voice. She knows her football. Her voice isn't annoying as much as it just doesn't resonate. In truth, I don't think John Murphy is a stellar play by play guy but he has a voice that resonates and of course he's a homer so you like him. There is actually someone worse calling games for ESPN, I don't know her name, but he voice does not lend itself to play by play at all. I think she was on the Alcorn State broadcast last night. Look...I am female, and I'm all for inclusivity...but for play by play, I think it's a specialized field that requires more in the way of vocal ability. I'm watching the replay of the Marshall v Appalachian State game from last night. The guy doing the play by play is not great. The color commentator is much better. However, the comments made outside of the play by play make that announcer decent. And as to Tiki Barber...when I think of him I think ego and teeth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Sports commentators of any gender can only aspire to this brilliance...never ceases to make me laugh, sometimes to the point of crying: https://www.today.com/video/mary-carillo-s-badminton-rant-remains-the-best-sports-commentary-of-all-time-747874883720 I never saw that! Thank you for sharing! I love Mary Carillo and that was priceless! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Huh? She's terrible. Yarrrrds Thanks Giuseppe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) On 9/24/2021 at 12:48 PM, Just Joshin' said: My wife who is football novice walked into the room when watching a game she was doing and asked who is the person who is so bad? No because she is a she but lacking in talent. Beth I put in the same category of awful as Cris Collinsworth.🤢 Edited October 14, 2021 by stosh64 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: I just found a picture of Beth (never seen her before). I can't believe how much she looks like Rex Ryan I'd hit it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I'd hit it Rex? 🤮 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, T&C said: Streaming a lot of times gives the home/away option... hope she isnt on both. If so ill mute it and listen on WGR even though its hard to sync the 2. Can honestly say this is the first time I’ve ever agreed with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Can honestly say this is the first time I’ve ever agreed with you. Times change. Possibly something changes after the Redskins game next week, I'm sure we all will be looking for a different option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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