Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: I think Davis is a star in the making. What we do need is very quick explosive fast twitch WR that can man the slot and return kicks. Or a mismatch TE? Hunter Henry or Johnnu Smith? Edited March 10, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I'm sad. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Or a mismatch TE? That too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninRebel37 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Damn. Recognize the cap need but maybe he’ll consider coming back with at a lower price. If not - seemed like a great dude and definitely helped show JA could be that dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Victory Formation said: I think Davis is a star in the making. What we do need is very quick explosive fast twitch WR that can man the slot and return kicks. We’ve seen too many 1 hit rookie wonders to think they are putting all the eggs in that basket, I think they add a WR in FA. Maybe even Brown on a very cheap deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: We’ve seen too many 1 hit rookie wonders to think they are putting all the eggs in that basket, I think they add a WR in FA. Maybe even Brown on a very cheap deal I think they will add a FA as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Best of luck, Mr. Brown. Thanks for your contribution to the turnaround! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, HappyDays said: We signed him to the practice squad, I'm sure he will be given an offer and given a chance to compete. I still want them to draft somebody with speed. Guys on the practice squad have to be signed to a future deal after the season is up. Since he did not get a future deal he's an UFA. We could sign him again yes but as of now he's free to sign anywhere. 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Or a mismatch TE? Hunter Henry or Johnnu Smith? don't forget Gerald Everett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I was hoping they would find a way to keep him, but that was a big cap number for (at best) our third best target. With Davis and McKenzie stepping up I think we can get close to the production while being younger and cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Tough to see Smoke go but it was expected. Gabe Davis is a star in the making 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I said this all offseason long it would happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Sucks but it was inevitable. Guy was great last year and I wish him nothing but the best. But given how Davis played, he was making too much for what his role probably is going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 What is the deal with Stills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Quickly became one of my favorite players in the league. Did a great job on and off of the field for the Bills. Thank you Smoke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said: What is the deal with Stills? He is a Free Agent. As for the releases, Beane did what he had to do. I'm proud of him making these moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 *****. I get it. But ***** 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I don’t want him to go at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, chongli said: I'm sad. Ahhhhh come over here....chin up little buddy 😁 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 HATE this move. Absolutely hate it. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) If we make a relatively big splash at WR, I would guess that it's Curtis Samuel (absolutely perfect fit and former Panther) or Emmanuel Sanders (we were interested before and he's versatile enough to fill Brown's spot or fill in in the slot sometimes as well). I don't really expect us to do that though; I think they envision a larger role for Davis at Brown's expense and either a draft pick or cheap vet to add some depth/versatility. I definitely do expect us to bring in a veteran TE via free agency or trade. Henry and Jonnu both make a lot of sense if Beane wants to spend that kind of money on a TE. My personal preference would still be Cam Brate or OJ Howard assuming Tampa moves on from one of them but we'll see. Edited March 10, 2021 by DCOrange 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I tip my cap to Smoke for the past 2 years. But age and salary caught up with him. Best of luck to him. And they won't use a lot of resources to find his replacement. I think Davis will be the #2 WR and they'll look to add a cheaper speed WR in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Would have liked to retain him, he was an important piece in the teams growth, thanks JB 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Duke will have 1200 yards in 6 weeks. ✈️ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: If we make a relatively big splash at WR, I would guess that it's Curtis Samuel (absolutely perfect fit and former Panther) or Emmanuel Sanders (we were interested before and he's versatile enough to fill Brown's spot or fill in in the slot sometimes as well. Can’t see them freeing up this money to spend on another receiver... this Is going towards Williams or a pass rusher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Duke will have 1200 yards in 6 weeks. ✈️ Are we moving him to TE? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSH HUFF Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Should have restructured or found a way to keep him. I like Davis but he is not Brown, SPEED! You cant just plug anyone on the roster and match Brown. Jefferson was a good release, not impressed with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, JOSH HUFF said: Should have restructured or found a way to keep him. I like Davis but he is not Brown, SPEED! You cant just plug anyone on the roster and match Brown. Jefferson was a good release, not impressed with him. They could have kept him. Whether they wanted to keep him and asked him to take a pay cut which he refused, or didn't and just cut him is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, JOSH HUFF said: Should have restructured or found a way to keep him. I like Davis but he is not Brown, SPEED! You cant just plug anyone on the roster and match Brown. Maybe they got some advice from their medical team on his injury situation that they didn’t like...maybe they offered a restructure and he said no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I mean they'd still have to sign Kenny Stills. And Kenny Stills still needs to do something. Bills did not see him do enough to activate him for playoffs even with starting WRs injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Hopefully he finds his hamstrings, wherever they may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Not shocking but disappointed Brown didn't stay for one more season at a reduced rate. Guess the Bills either like Gabe Davis a lot more or Brown didn't want to come off his pay that much to make it work. Not shocking they released Q.Jefferson either and got Butler to restructure. One of those two was leaving and the other was also leaving or taking a pay cut. With Ed and Phillips there and Star coming back there just was only so much room on the roster. Between Butler and Jefferson I would have rather taken Jefferson at a reduced rate but once again who knows what they were willing to take pay cut wise. 14.1 million freed up in addition to the 2 million from Mitch leaves them with 16 million in additional space. I suspect Butler will add 2-3 million in that and they will likely release Lee Smith to free up another 2.25 million. Hoping that they do something to lower Hughes and Addisions cap numbers too. I know they can also do some cap magic with Diggs, White, Dawkins and Poyer's salaries too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: And Kenny Stills still needs to do something. Bills did not see him do enough to activate him for playoffs even with starting WRs injured. With how short of a time he was with the Bills, barring a WR being ruled out, I didn't think he'd have enough time to get up to speed. But it would be interesting to know the team's feelings about him, or any FA WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: 😥😥 Not sure how the team gets faster on offense by cutting John Brown and letting McKenzie walk in FA, but given the cap situation and all the holes it probably had to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Farewell John SmokeY Brown, we hardly knew ye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: 😥😥 Not sure how the team gets faster on offense by cutting John Brown and letting McKenzie walk in FA, but given the cap situation and all the holes it probably had to happen. The simple answer is it almost certainly will not be faster, at least not at the WR position. Brown and McKenzie are the only WRs that ever stood a chance of being replaced this offseason and they're the two fastest on the team. It's possible we'll add speed at TE or RB but I don't think speed necessarily needs to be a priority personally. I think we're basically all set at RB and I'd prefer a versatile TE over a purely athletic one. Still, Henry or Jonnu would be a boost to our TE position's athleticism while also being more versatile than, say, Gerald Everett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Should've used that money on JJ Watt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I'm not optimistic about Williams at this point. Personally I think he should be a priority. But sounds like Beane is ready to move ahead with Ford at RT, and maybe sign a depth guy like Rick Wagner plus another draft pick. If they're letting Williams test the market 90% of the time that means the player is gone. I don't get the Cody Ford love from Beane. Certainly not as it relates to pass pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Maybe they got some advice from their medical team on his injury situation that they didn’t like...maybe they offered a restructure and he said no... Given his connection with Josh I suspect the Bills offered him a chance to restructure and either he didn't want to or he didn't want to take enough of a pay cut to where it made sense from the Bills perspective. It is unfortunate as I would have loved to have kept him but only at a cap number that made sense. 2 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I don't get the Cody Ford love from Beane. Certainly not as it relates to pass pro. I like Ford to compete with Ike for the LG spot. Hoping Ford taps into his potential as he has flashed good play at times. O-line play sometimes takes guys a year or two or even three before they get going in the NFL. But they can't be considering Ford for RT. They have to make a good play to keep D.Williams here. Let Milano walk and even let Mongo walk but don't let Williams go unless it is for stupid money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Dam, figured this was coming but still saddens me to think he won’t be back. He and Cole came hear and help start the turnaround. Injuries definitely have curtailed his career! Will root for him and hope he lands somewhere beneficial to his skill set! Unless it’s the Patriots, Jets, or fish of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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