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I think the immaturity stuff complicates things, but I would say it was pointless to draft Coleman if you weren't willing to be patient and see how things play out given how young he was and how inexperienced he was at the time. Chances are at this point, he probably isn't going to pan out. But I feel like they had to know it may take a few years for him to reach a level they'd be satisfied with.

Again, I think they're the same mold of player insofar as they're both big receivers that are likely to play in the X role. But as I said, Boston is simply way further ahead in the development curve. Better hands, better movement, more mature plan against press coverage, etc. He's probably not my main hope at 35, but I think he's a pretty good prospect that I'd be pretty happy to add to the room.

I understand the Coleman comparisons but I will say (1) I think Boston is a lot further along in his development than Coleman was/is (2) He's critically far better at getting in and out of his breaks and (3) he's believed to be adequately fast, though he didn't run the 40 which is always a red flag.

It didn't exactly work out when we did this and ended up with Coleman, but the art of trading down bit by bit is an excellent idea in my opinion. I assume we will eventually use some of those picks to move up, but I am a big fan of taking more bites at the apple.

I know Barnwell was saying we could probably get a 4th for him. I think we likely hold and see if he can rehabilitate his value a bit but we'll see. Not like we're exactly flush with talent at the position either.

On the Browns pick at 24, I kept reading tackle as a verb and had to re-read that like 5 times before my tiny brain realized what you were saying lol. Great work as always. Wish I had found the time to do my deep dives on prospects too but I have finally found myself a job that actually requires my full attention so my free time has become a lot more limited. Think both of the options you have pegged for the Bills make a ton of sense. Like I said, haven't been able to deep dive film the way I like to, but KC and Cooper are probably my two favorite WRs to watch in this draft. Would be thrilled to have KC (though take this with a grain of salt...I was fairly happy about the Coleman pick lol)

That combination of routes around 40 seconds in on the 2nd video is sick lol.

Also, as someone that really loves Matt Harmon's work, the separation metrics that he develops are only based off of a handful of games of film, so it's always possible you could end up getting a sample that maybe skews towards the prospect's best games, worst games, etc. I think his work is really helpful but as is the case with basically everything, there are pros and cons. His reports on KC, Boston, and Cooper were really intriguing to me in a good way, and the Tyson in a bad way.

Yeah, I'm not commenting on whether or not KC is north of that Mendoza line with my post. Haven't really scouted this year's prospects unfortunately, just listened to a lot of podcasts/read a lot of articles and seen the occasional highlights. The argument is more that the difference between good hands and bad hands by NFL standards is probably something like 5 drops over the course of an NFL season? At that point, I would say the ability to get open, ability to break tackles, ability to play in different alignments, and ability to block in the run game are all more valuable traits than the hands (again, assuming you have at least the "bare minimum" level of hands required to be an NFL WR.

I think there's a Mendoza line kinda thing where if they're below that line, they're pretty much undraftable. But anything above that line and it becomes one of the least important traits in a prospect IMO.

Mentioned it earlier in another thread, but Matt Harmon of Reception Perception fame said if Concepcion had better hands, he'd be the lone Tier 1 WR prospect in this year's class.

Sounds like Jalen Cox from Colgate and Tomislav Buljan from New Mexico are two guys to keep an eye on in the portal. We were also mentioned as one of the 2 or 3 schools to watch for Garwey Dual (McNeese State after flaming out at Providence and Seton Hall) and Jeremiah Wilkinson (Georgia). The latter two are top 70 in the transfer portal, former two are are closer to 150/unranked but they're all 4 star caliber guys. Edit: This isn't anything I'm hearing from Syracuse insiders by the way, just the scuttlebutt out there from reporters. Also, update on Wilkinson: his agent is Michael Carter-Williams and MCW told local reporters that Syracuse is not on Wilkinson's list so think we can pretty confidently cross that one off. Can cross Tomislav Buljan off the board now too I would really love for us to get in the picture for George Mason big Riley Allenspach. Haven't heard anything to indicate that we're a contender for him but he is one of the guys we're confirmed to have reached out to. At any rate, something like 60% of all D1 players are in the transfer portal...to say there's a lot of fish in the sea would be an understatement lol

Sadiq announced he is staying!

Wish it weren't so. Sounds like Sadiq White has a foot out the door already too and we're trying to convince him to stay. If he goes, Kiyan will literally be the only returning player lol.

If the team thinks that's true, then yeah it would be concerning for sure. I do wonder how detrimental Cignetti thinks it actually is given how productive he was.