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I did skip a couple years, but I think Trask is still holding it down as my lowest rated QB prospect that I've watched over the last 10 or so years (tbf, I generally only watch the top 8-10 QBs each year. Surprised he held on in Tampa as long as he did.

Cardinals - legitimately great look IMO Patriots - cool shade of blue and silver at least Bills - think these look better up close than they will on TV because of the tiny detail on the shoulders Jets - Eh. Seahawks - At least they didn't just spam black like the bottom three. Rams - Lame. Dolphins - Lamer. 49ers - Not even really a new jersey for them.

Baker in particular was a draft crush for many including myself.

I would say relative to the hype/where they were drafted: Harrison - disappointing but promising still Nabers - hit Odunze - disappointing, could go either way still Thomas - hit Worthy - need to see more, but pretty promising Pearsall - need to see more, but pretty promising Legette - need to see more, could go either way (lean disappointing) Coleman - need to see more, could go either way (lean promising) McConkey - hit Polk - bust AD Mitchell - not enough snaps to really say and disaster QB situation Corley - bust Burton - not enough snaps to say, lean bust Roman Wilson - getting some camp hype this year but TBD McMillan - promising rookie season McCaffrey - not enough snaps to say, lean bust That's all the top 3 round guys. Outside the top 3 rounds, Franklin is getting some camp hype this year, Devaughn Vele had a strong rookie season relative to draft position, and Jalen Coker was very promising as an UDFA guy off the top of my head. At any rate, I feel like that's a pretty strong start for the class. If Harrison and Odunze both end up being busts that would be a pretty big whiff on both but I don't personally see that being the case.

Cowboys writers have been going off about how stupid it was to trade an asset for him given how bad he's looked throughout camp/preseason. There's a ceiling there for sure but I would take a veteran like Trubisky over Milton every single time given where our team is right now.

I think it's fair to look at it that way but it's also entirely possible like 90% of the snaps that Gave would get are snaps that Palmer wouldn't be playing anyways. It would be someone that blocks worse than Gabe taking Palmer's place instead. So much of our offense last season was putting out personnel that dared defenses to play nickel and then try to bully them, and a lineup with Gabe and Coleman could take that to the max.

I wonder if the DuBose signing impacts this at all. I said it a few weeks ago though, Gabe is probably signing somewhere on the minimum/potentially even practice squad. He's a steal at that cost IMO. Most players at that cost are guys that cannot under any circumstance play a snap of offense.

I didn't scout a lot last year, but I had scouted Horton a couple years ago and was really impressed by him.

The raw numbers are fine...he didn't play well. QBR (overall ranking in parentheses): Jayden Daniels (4) Drake Maye (17) Bo Nix (18) Caleb Williams (28) Penix didn't start enough games to qualify for the season leaderboard, but his QBR from his 3 starts would have likely placed him around Maye and Nix. Era-Adjusted ELO - I pulled each first rounder dating back to Josh Allen's class for fun (26 of them) and pulled their Era-Adjusted ELO through their first 17 starts (the number that Caleb has started), or if the 1st rounder didn't even make it to 17 starts in their career, then whatever their career ELO ended up being. Ranking amongst the 26 in parentheses: Jayden Daniels - +63.6 per game (1) Bo Nix - +53.7 per game (4) Drake Maye - +9.8 per game (8) Michael Penix - -35.0 per game (17) Caleb Williams - -47.7 per game (18) For reference, 9 of the 26 had a positive era-adjusted ELO through 17 starts: Daniels, Lamar, Herbert, Nix, Stroud, Jordan Love, Burrow, Maye, and Kyler Murray. The folks ranked below Caleb's rookie year are: Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, Dwayne Haskins, Zach Wilson, Bryce Young, and Josh Rosen. PFF Grade (position rank in parentheses): Jayden Daniels (6) Michael Penix (8) Bo Nix (22) Drake Maye (40) Caleb Williams (44) And if you just want to go off of the eye test and watched the games, he simply did not play well. Now how much of the blame you want to place on him vs. poor coaching, OL play, etc. is up to you, but I don't think there's really any argument that he wasn't disappointing. I'm not saying he was a trainwreck or anything and I personally still like him quite a bit as a prospect. But yeah, he was hyped up to be one of the best QB prospects of all time and instead was arguably the worst in his class as a rookie.

The best part is Stafford moved UP into Tier 1 this year. He gained 5 Tier 1 votes compared to 2024. He wouldn't be my choice but I do think he has an argument for being the 5th best QB in the league right now, but #5 is simply nowhere near the same tier as the top 4.

Yep. They've seemingly improved the offensive line a ton (and to be honest, folks put way too much of the sacks on the OL last year...they were average at best but they weren't a trainwreck like a lot of people suggested they were) and the pass catchers around Caleb should be pretty good. There's really no excuse for that offense to struggle in 2025.

Yeah, as I mentioned before, it holds up well against any ice cream place I've been to in the US, and I have been to a ton of them lol. The good gelato places in Italy are understandably a cut above, but Pittsford Dairy, the creamery in PA that I mentioned, and one hidden gem in DC that I've found are probably the best ice cream I've had here.

I haven't tried garlic ice cream, but have recently had olive oil ice cream and it was outstanding.

I think it goes without saying that Caleb had a disappointing rookie season (I don't think it's an especially hot take to say he was the 4th or 5th best among the 5 first rounders last year) and has a lot to prove in Year 2. Having said that, so much of what Cowherd says here is misleading or just flat out laughable. The description for Tier 4 in Mike Sando's rating system is "unproven" OR "veterans that should not start all 17 games". The former is why all of the 2nd year QBs, including Jayden Daniels, received Tier 4 votes. Some of the voters take the tier descriptions very seriously and it stands to reason that every young QB needs to prove themselves across multiple seasons. Having said that, even if the tier descriptions were not provided and people were just given the assignment of listing the QBs across 5 tiers, having Caleb in Tier 3 or 4 makes sense. It's entirely possible Cowherd didn't actually read the article about the rankings and simply didn't know specific guidelines like that were provided. The idea that sitting the starting QB in the preseason is abnormal is simply a joke and this is a point that Cowherd knows he's just making up. Starting QBs are rested in preseason all the freaking time including this past week. He kept repeating over and over that every starting QB played this week when in reality, it was only half of them (and in a few of those cases, they are literally competing for the starting QB job so of course they're playing). Amongst established starters, it was less than half of them playing in the preseason opener. Also for historical reference, across Ben Johnson's three years as OC in Detroit, his starting QB appeared in one preseason game. He just doesn't believe in it.

In case nobody else responded, a simple cooler with ice should do the trick. I have transported ice cream from a creamery in in the suburbs of PA to Washington DC, around 3ish hour drive and it's held up perfectly well. The biggest issue is fighting the desire to eat it in transit. I've only been to Pittsford Dairy a handful of times as various Abbott's locations have just always been a lot more convenient and I personally LOVE Abbott's. Pittsford Dairy is excellent ice cream though; compares well to any ice cream I've had in the US.