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Assuming most people that see this post already know, but Charlie Kirk is confirmed dead.

He's got some real issues to work on but he's one of those guys I feel like you can't help but root for. Feel like last night's game showed pretty much all the pros and cons that I saw when I scouted him at Michigan.

If Josh was outside of the pocket, illegal contact basically doesn't exist (and it is very close but I think he may have been out of the pocket). Even if he was still inside the pocket, I think you could argue the contact doesn't rise to the level of illegal contact but ultimately I think they got this call right, or at least I think it's close enough that it could go either way and be justified.

I wouldn't even say he missed the last throw; it's just a really tough throw to make and he put in a place where Lamb could make the (difficult) catch and it didn't work out. Dak had a very good game. I think there's a reasonable argument that Dak was the best player on the field last night.

Looks like the site is still up and working for me. Only thing I really use it for is the Washington Mystics because DC charges like $400 to watch the local teams here and I ain't doing that when WNBA League Pass is like $10 lol

I did skip a couple years, but I think Trask is still holding it down as my lowest rated QB prospect that I've watched over the last 10 or so years (tbf, I generally only watch the top 8-10 QBs each year. Surprised he held on in Tampa as long as he did.

Cardinals - legitimately great look IMO Patriots - cool shade of blue and silver at least Bills - think these look better up close than they will on TV because of the tiny detail on the shoulders Jets - Eh. Seahawks - At least they didn't just spam black like the bottom three. Rams - Lame. Dolphins - Lamer. 49ers - Not even really a new jersey for them.

Baker in particular was a draft crush for many including myself.

I would say relative to the hype/where they were drafted: Harrison - disappointing but promising still Nabers - hit Odunze - disappointing, could go either way still Thomas - hit Worthy - need to see more, but pretty promising Pearsall - need to see more, but pretty promising Legette - need to see more, could go either way (lean disappointing) Coleman - need to see more, could go either way (lean promising) McConkey - hit Polk - bust AD Mitchell - not enough snaps to really say and disaster QB situation Corley - bust Burton - not enough snaps to say, lean bust Roman Wilson - getting some camp hype this year but TBD McMillan - promising rookie season McCaffrey - not enough snaps to say, lean bust That's all the top 3 round guys. Outside the top 3 rounds, Franklin is getting some camp hype this year, Devaughn Vele had a strong rookie season relative to draft position, and Jalen Coker was very promising as an UDFA guy off the top of my head. At any rate, I feel like that's a pretty strong start for the class. If Harrison and Odunze both end up being busts that would be a pretty big whiff on both but I don't personally see that being the case.

Cowboys writers have been going off about how stupid it was to trade an asset for him given how bad he's looked throughout camp/preseason. There's a ceiling there for sure but I would take a veteran like Trubisky over Milton every single time given where our team is right now.

I think it's fair to look at it that way but it's also entirely possible like 90% of the snaps that Gave would get are snaps that Palmer wouldn't be playing anyways. It would be someone that blocks worse than Gabe taking Palmer's place instead. So much of our offense last season was putting out personnel that dared defenses to play nickel and then try to bully them, and a lineup with Gabe and Coleman could take that to the max.

I wonder if the DuBose signing impacts this at all. I said it a few weeks ago though, Gabe is probably signing somewhere on the minimum/potentially even practice squad. He's a steal at that cost IMO. Most players at that cost are guys that cannot under any circumstance play a snap of offense.

I didn't scout a lot last year, but I had scouted Horton a couple years ago and was really impressed by him.

The raw numbers are fine...he didn't play well. QBR (overall ranking in parentheses): Jayden Daniels (4) Drake Maye (17) Bo Nix (18) Caleb Williams (28) Penix didn't start enough games to qualify for the season leaderboard, but his QBR from his 3 starts would have likely placed him around Maye and Nix. Era-Adjusted ELO - I pulled each first rounder dating back to Josh Allen's class for fun (26 of them) and pulled their Era-Adjusted ELO through their first 17 starts (the number that Caleb has started), or if the 1st rounder didn't even make it to 17 starts in their career, then whatever their career ELO ended up being. Ranking amongst the 26 in parentheses: Jayden Daniels - +63.6 per game (1) Bo Nix - +53.7 per game (4) Drake Maye - +9.8 per game (8) Michael Penix - -35.0 per game (17) Caleb Williams - -47.7 per game (18) For reference, 9 of the 26 had a positive era-adjusted ELO through 17 starts: Daniels, Lamar, Herbert, Nix, Stroud, Jordan Love, Burrow, Maye, and Kyler Murray. The folks ranked below Caleb's rookie year are: Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, Dwayne Haskins, Zach Wilson, Bryce Young, and Josh Rosen. PFF Grade (position rank in parentheses): Jayden Daniels (6) Michael Penix (8) Bo Nix (22) Drake Maye (40) Caleb Williams (44) And if you just want to go off of the eye test and watched the games, he simply did not play well. Now how much of the blame you want to place on him vs. poor coaching, OL play, etc. is up to you, but I don't think there's really any argument that he wasn't disappointing. I'm not saying he was a trainwreck or anything and I personally still like him quite a bit as a prospect. But yeah, he was hyped up to be one of the best QB prospects of all time and instead was arguably the worst in his class as a rookie.

The best part is Stafford moved UP into Tier 1 this year. He gained 5 Tier 1 votes compared to 2024. He wouldn't be my choice but I do think he has an argument for being the 5th best QB in the league right now, but #5 is simply nowhere near the same tier as the top 4.