Dablitzkrieg Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I guess you never heard of Adam 👀 Gase. Or Dick Jauron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 As much as I like Frazier and/or those 3rds, I *hate* Baltimore getting picks for their WR coach. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 No one wants this job omg. Watson is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: True. The productivity of his recent units, both the last 3 years of WRs in Baltimore and the 2017 QB in Buffalo, is not encouraging. However, as stated by a minority of posters, hiring a head coach doesn't have to be about previous productivity from a specific unit or position group. The hot coordinator or guy-with-a-sexy-scheme route is one way. But it can also be about leadership ability and management Softer, interpersonal skills. I think with Culley we can easily forgive "his" WR production in Baltimore the last three years with Jackson, and "his" QB production during Tyrod's last season (there WAS that one game in Seattle, though). The hot coordinator with a great scheme pipeline seems dead and buried with this cycle. The hires are one college, two assistant coaches with no coordinator experience, three defensive coordinators and only two offensive coordinators when offensive guys were like 4 of the 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It would be hilarious if Culley came out in his press conference and said the Texans are going to bite a lot of kneecaps. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Limeaid said: David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. LOL WR coach for Ravens. He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up. I remember he was with the Bills there were comments here like : “Why can’t he get Tyrod to throw over the middle?” and “Who is this guy and how can we expect him to groom Josh?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Next question: who is Dave Culley? He was our QB coach Mcdermott's first two seasons that fans ripped on because he had only been a WR coach prior. We eventually let him go(he went on to Baltimore to be their passing game coordinator) in favor of Ken Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, eball said: It would be hilarious if Culley came out in his press conference and said the Texans are going to bite a lot of kneecaps. Plagiarism is NO JOKE guys. Come on. Gotta at least replace "bite" and "kneecaps" with a more personally relevant verb/tenacious act of self-defense and noun/vulnerable body part. Like an old school coaching philosophy cliché Mad Libs. "The Texans are going to clutch a lot of groins." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He was our QB coach Mcdermott's first two seasons that fans ripped on because he had only been a WR coach prior. We eventually let him go(he went on to Baltimore to be their passing game coordinator) in favor of Ken Dorsey. Jesus, was he the QB coach for the Peterman/Anderson/Allen season, too? Them's was a mighty awful time for throwing the bowl in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Jesus, was he the QB coach for the Peterman/Anderson/Allen season, too? Them's was a mighty awful time for throwing the bowl in Buffalo. Actually 2017 and 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Picking the Ravens passing game coordinator for their HC should result in a huge improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 This is a hire you make when no one else wants the job. The Texans are heading for drought era Bills levels of ineptitude. Their franchise QB is about to be gone and they have no draft picks to rebuild the team. Crazy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I have to give props to Culley. He could have been like EB, and just rot away in Andy Reid’s shadow. Instead, he made some moves to get to this point— eg, Bills QB coach and then Ravens, and now this. EB has to realize at this point being a former RB who doesn’t call plays under Andy Reid isn’t inspiring any confidence as a future head coach. People want playcallers, offensive geniuses, former QB’s/QB whisperers. I suspect that Culley showed a breadth of experience enough to sell himself as a key part of the ravens offensive success and Lamar’s development. EB needs to branch out and become an OC where he can call the plays and show we can develop a QB and offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is a hire you make when no one else wants the job. The Texans are heading for drought era Bills levels of ineptitude. Their franchise QB is about to be gone and they have no draft picks to rebuild the team. Crazy. At least we never found our franchise QB during those times. If watson leaves, it'd be like having Jim Kelly, then pissing him off to where he leaves, and the Bills never sniff a superbowl. Edited January 28, 2021 by delirious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Quick! Someone find something offensive this guy tweeted ten years ago so they take Frazier instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: I can understand you like Frazier, but too many times especially this year were the defense looked like they were looking at opposing offensives like they were the grim Reaper playing scared. You can understand anything you like, but it may or may not have any relation to anything I've written, apparently. I "get it" that our defenses did not look good a number of times this season. Early in the season, Titans, Colts, both KC games. I neither like nor dislike Frazier. Any chagrin I felt about him leaving would have been eased by 2 3rd round picks But most people seem pretty sure that McDermott is deeply involved in the defense and certainly involved in the scheme. For all we know, McDermott may have been mandating things that didn't work and Frazier figured out how to change things up and make improvements. If McDermott doesn't see a need to make changes, they won't get made is my take on the defense. So crap about locking Frazier out of the building is unlikely to help our D. 30 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I have to give props to Culley. He could have been like EB, and just rot away in Andy Reid’s shadow. Instead, he made some moves to get to this point— eg, Bills QB coach and then Ravens, and now this. EB has to realize at this point being a former RB who doesn’t call plays under Andy Reid isn’t inspiring any confidence as a future head coach. People want playcallers, offensive geniuses, former QB’s/QB whisperers. I suspect that Culley showed a breadth of experience enough to sell himself as a key part of the ravens offensive success and Lamar’s development. EB needs to branch out and become an OC where he can call the plays and show we can develop a QB and offense. Maybe Andy Reid needs to fire him like he did McDermott 😁 35 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is a hire you make when no one else wants the job. The Texans are heading for drought era Bills levels of ineptitude. Their franchise QB is about to be gone and they have no draft picks to rebuild the team. Crazy. It's possible they don't trade Watson and just say "OK, hold out and give us back our $$ or play for us, your call" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Jesus, was he the QB coach for the Peterman/Anderson/Allen season, too? Them's was a mighty awful time for throwing the bowl in Buffalo. Yes. Yes, he was. One wonders how much he had to do with 1) the decision to bench Tyrod Taylor for Peterman for the Chargers game. This was said at the time to result from Dennison desk-thumping. 2) the decision to go into the 2018 season with Peterman as the starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The whole Texans hiring process boggles my mind. Offensive-minded candidates; defensive-minded candidates; Josh McCown, who has no coaching experience at any level. They choose to go offense, but a Passing game coordinator/WR coach of the 2020 team who landed last in passing? I get that he had a RB playing QB, but still. This is a bizarre hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Watson is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. LOL WR coach for Ravens. He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up. Ravens have WRs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Wouldn’t be shocked if Frazier turned it down already. I was thinking the same thing. If it were you, would you really want to go there? Originally I thought yes simply for Watson as he can cover up a lot, but it seems the ownership has propagated a dysfunctional environment. That’s only a guess so I really have nothing to back that assertion. Frazier is a sharp guy who was a head coach, and maybe something didn’t feel right. Maybe not, and Culley just won out. Frazier should get another shot next year, and the Pegulas are backing him along with McBeane. Since there 6-7 openings almost every year, he’ll have his shot again especially if our defense improves. For the Reid comment, you can also add Culley’s boss Harbaugh. He went from ST coach to Head Coach which isn’t that common. He’s turned out to be a very successful coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Has David Culley ever had a Head Coach interview with anyone in the NFL before? Not that it dooms him to failure if he hasn't but it is certainly outside the box thinking!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, y2zipper said: The hot coordinator with a great scheme pipeline seems dead and buried with this cycle. The hires are one college, two assistant coaches with no coordinator experience, three defensive coordinators and only two offensive coordinators when offensive guys were like 4 of the 6. I think teams have, finally, somewhat realised that leadership is more important than scheme for a Head Coach hire. This hiring season has certainly seemed to be one where teams have prioritised those leadership qualities. That isn't to say that all these hires will work out (I very much doubt they will) and I still think that the problem is when 6-8 jobs are changing hands every year it empties the talent pool so quickly that some years guys get hired that don't on the face of it make much sense. However, a lot of the situations this year are dysfunctional. Houston, the Jets, Detroit, the Jaguars, Philadelphia they are bad situations with a lot of dysfunction in the organisation and no amount of clever scheme will turn that around.... it needs leadership. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cage said: 18 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: How does being instrumental in the development of Nate Peterman and passing game coordinator for the #1 rushing offense land you a job as a Head Coach w/ an NFL team? #WatsonOUT Edited January 28, 2021 by cage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, cage said: How does being instrumental in the development of Nate Peterman and passing game coordinator for the #1 rushing offense land you a job as a Head Coach w/ an NFL team? #WatsonOUT It doesn’t, but 17 years with Andy Reid and then you branch out with added responsibilities on another couple of playoff teams - maybe that helps out. Plus being a minority coach might help fulfill what Watson is looking for, but fills it with a guy that is not just standing next to Reid on the sidelines at the moment. I think it is another in a bad line of hires, but it is definitely outside the normal box and checks off several of the Watson complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The way things are run down there, I fully expect Bill O'Brien to show up in a fake beard and billing himself as 'William O'Brian', and get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 News alert: “another unqualified head coach was hired before Eric Bienamy. In fact, it’s probably the single worst hire (on paper) in years.” NFL Twitter: *Breathes deep in preparation for accusations of systemic racism. News alert: “minority candidate *pause to check notes* David Culley- I think I’m pronouncing that correctly- yes, David Culley. Will become the Texans next head coach.” NFL Twitter: ...... *crickets* 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Next question: who is Dave Culley? Ill take NFL Head Coaches Who Were Fired Prior to their Contract Expiring for 2000 Alex. Edited January 28, 2021 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Watson is DEFINITELY going to want out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Has David Culley ever had a Head Coach interview with anyone in the NFL before? Not that it dooms him to failure if he hasn't but it is certainly outside the box thinking!! It was his only interview for HC. 25 minutes ago, H2o said: Watson is DEFINITELY going to want out now. He was gone no matter who they got for him as HC. It was an excuse to get out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, cage said: How does being instrumental in the development of Nate Peterman and passing game coordinator for the #1 rushing offense land you a job as a Head Coach w/ an NFL team? #WatsonOUT You’re asking the wrong question. The question is how does it not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Limeaid said: Andy Reid BYU (1982) - Graduate assistant San Francisco State (1983–1985) - Offensive line coach Northern Arizona (1986) - Offensive line coach UTEP (1987–1988) - Offensive line coach Missouri (1989–1991) - Offensive line coach Green Bay Packers (1992–1996) - Assistant offensive line & tight ends coach Green Bay Packers (1997–1998) - Quarterbacks coach & assistant head coach Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2012) - Head coach Kansas City Chiefs (2013–present)- Head coach David Culley Austin Peay (1978) - (Running backs coach) Vanderbilt (1979–1981) - (Wide receivers coach) Middle Tennessee State (1982) - (Quarterbacks coach & running backs coach) Chattanooga (1983) - (Wide receivers coach) Southwestern La. (1985–1988) - (Quarterbacks coach) Texas El-Paso (1989–1990) - (Offensive coordinator & running backs coach & wide receivers coach) Texas A&M (1991–1993) - (Wide receivers coach) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1994–1995) - (Wide receivers coach) Pittsburgh Steelers (1996–1998) - (Wide receivers coach) Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2010) - (Wide receivers coach) Philadelphia Eagles (2011–2012) - (Senior offensive assistant & wide receivers coach) Kansas City Chiefs (2013–2016) - (Assistant head coach & wide receivers coach) Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) - (Quarterbacks coach) Baltimore Ravens (2019–present) - (Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach & assistant head coach) So basically, an Andy Reid guy. It’s knda unbelievable how many Reid guys are head coaches now. 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Has David Culley ever had a Head Coach interview with anyone in the NFL before? Not that it dooms him to failure if he hasn't but it is certainly outside the box thinking!! Had John Harbaugh before he was hired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Isn't Ravens' Passing Game an oxymoron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Just because Culley was a fraud of a QB coach in Buffalo, and has since been responsible for a wildly unproductive WR position group (the position he played back when, innit?), his current role as Assistant HC suggests that he probably possesses some of those broader leadership and management qualities so essential to that style (CEO/non-coordinator type) of NFL head coach you're pointing to above. Why was Culley a fraud as our QB coach? I thought Josh showed huge improvement by the end of his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: News alert: “another unqualified head coach was hired before Eric Bienamy. In fact, it’s probably the single worst hire (on paper) in years.” NFL Twitter: *Breathes deep in preparation for accusations of systemic racism. News alert: “minority candidate *pause to check notes* David Culley- I think I’m pronouncing that correctly- yes, David Culley. Will become the Texans next head coach.” NFL Twitter: ...... *crickets* Supposedly Bienamy hasn't interviewed well. He also has a pretty long list of legal issues in his past. That'll get brought up in an interview. 6 minutes ago, Stads said: Isn't Ravens' Passing Game an oxymoron? I mean... the QB won MVP in 2019 so i would think that he coordinated a good passing game in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: So basically, an Andy Reid guy. It’s knda unbelievable how many Reid guys are head coaches now. Had John Harbaugh before he was hired? Not that I recall. That was an outside the box hire. Worked out brilliantly. On the Reid guys.... the NFL is now dominated by guys off the Reid tree, Belichick tree or Shanahan tree. Reid McDermott Harbaugh Culley Reich (via Pederson) Nagy Rivera Belichick Flores Vrabel (via O'Brien) Judge Shanahan Taylor (via McVay) Saleh (via Kyle Shanahan) Staley (via McVay) LaFleur Kyle Shanahan McVay And Shanahan also has two Head Coaches who were offensive position coaches under coordinators from the Shanahan tree in Smith (LaFleur) and Stefanski (Kubiak). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 🎵Well it's lonesome in this old town Everybody puts me downI'm a face without a name Just walking in the rain Goin' back to Houston, Houston, Houston🎶 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wppete Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 How bad of a candidate must Eric Bienamy be? How bad were his interviews As reported? How bad is history of multiple arrests as reported? Shocked, I thought Eric Bienamy was a lock for the Houston job.... Something must be Really wrong for all these teams to have interviewed him the last couple of years and nothing. Almost half the league has interviewed him and they have all passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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